Canelo alvarez is going to break fernando vargas's legitimate record as the youngest junior middleweight champion ever by beating a not top ten 147 pound contender. what a freakin joke. never beat a ranked or even top 100 154 pound fighter and he gets to choose the unranked (by the wbc) fighter he wants from a division lower to fight alvarez?
way to ruin boxing history jose sulaiman. next time he says in doing what's best for boxing everybody needs to know its b.s.
- this is just as bad if not worse than tyrone brunson coming along and fighting enough complete total bums to beat edwin valero's hard earned legitimate consecutive first round ko record.
i specifically say i blame jose sulaiman.
at least mayorga and picirillo were ranked at 154 and beat contenders in their career.
neither hatton nor alvarez has ever beaten a top 10 ranked fighter in any division in their entire careers.
- hatton never fought at division, never been champ.
- alvarrez never beaten contender.
- marg and pac were both multiple champions and extreemly accomplished fighters.
- so were forrest and mayorga.
- i dont expect canelo to say no, but id expect more of golden boy. shows they too do not have respect for boxing or boxing history.
too bad the 21 yaer old 154 lb vargas could not destroy this fake contender in an actual match.
Why are you blaming Canelo? Is he a promoter? Is he the president of the WBC? Is he the person who lobbied the WBC to make this a title fight?
And even after answering all these questions what do you expect Saul to say? No thanks Im good?
from what i read , they made the fight at 150 and wbc just tagged along with manny's vacant trinket.
you know president sulaiman needs the money.
Canelo alvarez is going to break fernando vargas's legitimate record as the youngest junior middleweight champion ever by beating a not top ten 147 pound contender. what a freakin joke. never beat a ranked or even top 100 154 pound fighter and he gets to choose the unranked (by the wbc) fighter he wants from a division lower to fight alvarez?
way to ruin boxing history jose sulaiman. next time he says in doing what's best for boxing everybody needs to know its b.s.
- this is just as bad if not worse than tyrone brunson coming along and fighting enough complete total bums to beat edwin valero's hard earned legitimate consecutive first round ko record.
Why are you blaming Canelo? Is he a promoter? Is he the president of the WBC? Is he the person who lobbied the WBC to make this a title fight?
And even after answering all these questions what do you expect Saul to say? No thanks Im good?
Great reply that is how I follow the rankings through the ring rankings.
ring rankings is not perfect but they're not crooked either.
and i don't believe the "owned by Oscar/GBP" bs.
if oscar had any influence you think arum's fighters would be ranked all over the place and so highly. :lol1:
I don't find it very surprising.
Canelo was always going to get a bullshit title shot the first time around because he makes money if he wanted to go that route. On top of that the division is super soft so it just makes it to easy and simple.
just look at the last 3 title fights for vacant wbc titles at 154.
pacquiao-margarito.
forrest-baldomir.
mayorga-piccirillo
neither pacquiao or margarito had done anything of much note at 154.
forrest had 3 fights coming after a 2 year layoff. deserving of a title shot?
and he was fighting baldomir for it. whose most recent fight was when he lost his title at 147.
before that the other vacant title fight for the wbc at 154 was mayorga-piccirillo.
mayorga was coming off a loss to tito at 160 and was 1-2 in his last 3.
Canelo alvarez is going to break fernando vargas's legitimate record as the youngest junior middleweight champion ever by beating a not top ten 147 pound contender. what a freakin joke. never beat a ranked or even top 100 154 pound fighter and he gets to choose the unranked (by the wbc) fighter he wants from a division lower to fight alvarez?
way to ruin boxing history jose sulaiman. next time he says in doing what's best for boxing everybody needs to know its b.s.
- this is just as bad if not worse than tyrone brunson coming along and fighting enough complete total bums to beat edwin valero's hard earned legitimate consecutive first round ko record.
i agree... vargas must be tossing and turning in oxnard....
why do you guys act so surprised?
boxing orgs have been garbage since the dawn of time.
i read the same complaints for pac-marg. now look. this one is even worse than that.
wbc is garbage. in fact all of them ABC orgs are garbage.
don't even pay attention to it.
just keep track of ring champions and ring rankings.
ring is not perfect but they ain't garbage either.
Great reply that is how I follow the rankings through the ring rankings.
why do you guys act so surprised?
boxing orgs have been garbage since the dawn of time.
i read the same complaints for pac-marg. now look. this one is even worse than that.
wbc is garbage. in fact all of them ABC orgs are garbage.
don't even pay attention to it.
just keep track of ring champions and ring rankings.
ring is not perfect but they ain't garbage either.
Canelo alvarez is going to break fernando vargas's legitimate record as the youngest junior middleweight champion ever by beating a not top ten 147 pound contender. what a freakin joke. never beat a ranked or even top 100 154 pound fighter and he gets to choose the unranked (by the wbc) fighter he wants from a division lower to fight alvarez?
way to ruin boxing history jose sulaiman. next time he says in doing what's best for boxing everybody needs to know its b.s.
- this is just as bad if not worse than tyrone brunson coming along and fighting enough complete total bums to beat edwin valero's hard earned legitimate consecutive first round ko record.
New year,same $hit bro.We had someone add to records with a 154 title farce last year,we get another this year & probably some more too.