i know most of you love him because he is a prety(F-ag)boy but be honest no 1 gave pacquiao credit for fightign at 150 and winning the 154 pound title if a world class fighter didnt get credit why should this overrated kid has.i say he should of at least fought 1 top 10 jrmiddleweight but thats the worst he has never face a top 10 and his oponent is even more a a joke MATHEW HATTON has he even won a interim belt besides being a welterweight.what you guys think i know most of you love the kid because of his looks but be honest
Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?:dunno::thinking::bsflag:
you do realise that is extremely rare, dont you?
only Cuevas and Benitez in the 100+ years of boxing became champs before 20, as far as I know.
Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?:dunno::thinking::bsflag:
You know what? I honest I consider Alvarez a prospect right now. I'm not really critical with him or JCC jr. So I don't car if they step it up or not. Because, they're not title holders. Never won a title. I don't consider them true contenders either. So whether they step it up or not. Doesn't bother me.
However, once Alvarez wins a title. Then is when I will be critical. Then I will say you need to step it up. For example I will give you Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. All I hear is that he started boxing late, he doesn't have an amateur background, and blah blah blah. Because, he's a title holder and needs to step the fuck up. Fighting the likes of Hernandez and Arce is BS TBH. He needs to step it up because, he's a title holder. And, ever since winning that title he has fought very soft comp. Now that deserves criticism.
Canelo and JCC Jr winning a title then they will be held to the same standards of the likes of WV2, Berto, and Haye, etc etc...Once you win a title you need to step up and face real comp.
It doesn't matter, I'm OK with it. It's whatever. i have not been critical with Alvarez choice of opponents or anything about him really. Because, I still consider him a prospect. I don't see him as a contender. I see him a prospect. So I am rarely critical.
However, once he wins that title. That is going to change. IMO he won't be able to fight the Carlos Baldomir or Matthew Hatton's anymore. He would have to step up the level of competition and fight true contenders or other title holders. If not he will deserve every criticism he gets. The whole he's only 20yr old bullshit will be out the window. Because, he will be a title holder now. I don't care if he's ready for a Cotto or not. Once he wins that title I expect him to fight high caliber fighters.
Wilfredo Benitez was a Champion at 17 years old and I never heard:"he's only 17" Canelo needs to step it up and so does JCC jr! I am getting tired of these two already! How do you get a title shot like that? Also, why against M. Hatton?:dunno::thinking::bsflag:
Worse things have happened.
The winner is a paper champ, but so was the previous holder.
Martinez is the real champ.
Real champ as a MW or real WBC champ?
Because, if it is the former. No he's not the real MW champ. He's a paper champ just like Cotto, K9, and Dzinziruk.
If it's the latter fine OK whatever. But, he hasn't campaigned in that weight-class for over a year now. And, it's about to fight for the 4th time in a row at MW. I don't understand how he can still be considered a champ if he doesn't fight at that weight-class but whatever.
Worse things have happened.
The winner is a paper champ, but so was the previous holder.
Martinez is the real champ.
martinez at 154 was a paper champ as well...he was the interim champ bumped up to being the real champ without fighting for it!...
It doesn't matter, I'm OK with it. It's whatever. i have not been critical with Alvarez choice of opponents or anything about him really. Because, I still consider him a prospect. I don't see him as a contender. I see him a prospect. So I am rarely critical.
However, once he wins that title. That is going to change. IMO he won't be able to fight the Carlos Baldomir or Matthew Hatton's anymore. He would have to step up the level of competition and fight true contenders or other title holders. If not he will deserve every criticism he gets. The whole he's only 20yr old bullshit will be out the window. Because, he will be a title holder now. I don't care if he's ready for a Cotto or not. Once he wins that title I expect him to fight high caliber fighters.
BS match up... How about subbing Hatton with Vanes "Nightmare" Martirosyan. If the idea is Canelo ain't ready for that, he shouldn't be fighting for the belt... I dunno how the WBC could be so blatently full of it. It's crazy:thinking:
My take is they dont deserve it, but every one is acting surprised like the sanctioning organizations have not been screwed up. So fuck it. Pacquiao just fought for the same title at a catchweight against Margarito, 2 fighters that had never done any thing at 154.
it is not a legitimate title. neither was Pac-Marg
Alvarez was scheduled to fight Hatton before the WBC decided to start giving away free belts. its not his fault.
the diffrence is that pac fought margo who has fought at 154 already( both have beaten cotto who is a 154 champion right now)...canelo hasnt beaten any quality oppositon at any weighclass ever ...and canelo is fighting a ww at jmw for a title....
ralph it's like this,there are some posters,a lot actually that do indeed give Pacman credit for the Margarito fight,true story.But vacant title fights have always happened in the sport,but if there is gonna be a vacant title at stake in a fight,the least they can do is have the fight at full weight,not a catchweight.I think that if Canelo wanted a belt,k-9 has 1 hostage,he should have taken his.
As a Canelo fan I think it's a fuken joke that he is getting a title shot. Unlike other fans I wont count this bull**** title in a certain weight class. I have respect for the sport, unlike them dick sucking u know who fans