Do you think he will ever get his 'big break' fight?
IMO hes a super star already, the KO of the punisher confirmed this after the first tough fight. People like Floyd and Manny got their 'big break' fights with Oscar De La Hoya, beating him turned them both into world wide mega stars.
So my question is, when will Maravilla get his and who will it be against?
I'd love him to get a chance against one of these two but I just dont see it happening right now or in the near future, and Sergio isnt getting any younger. Is there any one single boxer left big enough to give him that chance other than these two? Could you see oscar coming back to fight him? I think a fight with Cotto could do good for him but I also cant see this happening.
Do not turn this into a Pac/PBF Thread, this is about SERGIO MARTINEZ.
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There's no use talking about Pac-Martinez.
Pac's walking around weight is around 145, and Sergio's is 180.. there was even drama about him making 160, what more 150?
It's not gonna happen and if it does, it's gonna be a mismatch. Either Sergio's gonna be drained or sergio fights a lightweight.
Both Pac and sergio are in a lose-lose situation if they fight each other, even at 150.
For pac, he has a big chance of losing and even if he wins, as you mentioned, people would say he won against a weight-drained opponent.
For sergio, if he loses, people will say he won over a midget and won't get full credit. Just imagine what would happen to his career if he loses!
margo had a 17 pound advantage on manny and sergio weighed less than him on fight night with williams in a middleweight fight
sergio called out manny cause manny had his belt..manny dropped the belt so its over..you can come outside again the buggy man is gone
and you're crazy if you think margo beats sergio now...i guess those 2 cats who ko'd a young manny can still beat him now aswell
margo had 17 lbs fight night but it was at 150.....i dont beleiv sergio wighed less than 165 when he fought pwill ....proof or youre lyin.....if the fight happens at 154, better believ sergio would outweigh pac by atleast 20 lbs....
sergio called out manny coz he wanted a payday, kool but he did say he was too small for him ..that makes him a fukken hypocrite...
those two cats that koed manny are too many weightclases uneffective to be able to compete with pac now....margo is stil around sergio's weightclass..sergio still gets caught in the ropes and gets hit flush , so yeah i think margo beats the fukk out of him again....
margo had a 17 pound advantage on manny and sergio weighed less than him on fight night with williams in a middleweight fight
sergio called out manny cause manny had his belt..manny dropped the belt so its over..you can come outside again the buggy man is gone
and you're crazy if you think margo beats sergio now...i guess those 2 cats who ko'd a young manny can still beat him now aswell
Pac already acknowledged that he may have bitten more than he can chew when he decided to fight at super welterweight... even when it was at a catchweight.
he acknowledged it, decided not to defend the title and moved on.
too bad that some people simply can't do the same.
And yeah, i think sergio would most likely beat Marg at this point. But i would actually like to see that fight happen nonetheless.
1....you wish
2...i did'nt say he was...i said he is.....
3.....150 is pac's highest weight...sergio was'nt willing to fight at that unlike margo
4....i did not...i loved the match up......i dont worry about pac fighting sergio, but i worry about sergio having more than 20 lbs of weight advantage over pac tho....
margo had a 17 pound advantage on manny and sergio weighed less than him on fight night with williams in a middleweight fight
sergio called out manny cause manny had his belt..manny dropped the belt so its over..you can come outside again the buggy man is gone
and you're crazy if you think margo beats sergio now...i guess those 2 cats who ko'd a young manny can still beat him now aswell
Well for starters I know he isn't gonna ever get to face Floyd or Pacman & believe me it isn't because he isn't good enough.
He is that good & he doesn't need to fight Pac or Floyd to prove it.Time did tell,ask the former middleweight champion & the Punisher how good he is.
I can refer & compare him to Pacman & Floyd all I want,if U dont like it,don't quote me & respond.It's not pacman or Floyd's fault Martinez or any other fighter isn't recognized the way they deserve,it's stupid fans like a certain someone who adore pfp & fighters who only fight guys coming of bad performances while maintaining a rather useless & mythical term called pfp.
My username is the Bushbaby,I keep it real,if U don't like what I gotta say,ignore it.
hey, if you want to sound like a broken record and keep on hanging on Pac and floyd's name whenever you talk about Martinez, then i ain't stopping you.
oh, and calling fans "stupid" for not having the same opinion as you regarding Martinez isn't being real.
its being childish.
His big fight will most likely be against Cotto. Floyd and Manny will never happen. In boxing today, the "big" fight a fighter looks for is the money event, or the one that finally gets them on a PPV.
That will most likely be cotto as i don't think he'll even fight floyd or manny.
man, you sound like a broken record. there is very little chance that Martinez will EVER face either pac or floyd.
If martinez is really good, then only time will tell. if he's that good, then he doesn't need to fight either pac nor floyd to prove it. he can make his name known by fighting other challengers, or maybe even going up in weight.
stop always referring to pac or floyd whenever you're talking about Martinez, otherwise you'd be known more as the CRYbaby rather than the BUSHbaby.
you make it sound like its pac or pbf's fault Martinez isn't recognized the way YOU want him to be recognized. i'm sure that if martinez has the goods, he will make his name known to the world in due time without facing either of those fighters.
Well for starters I know he isn't gonna ever get to face Floyd or Pacman & believe me it isn't because he isn't good enough.
He is that good & he doesn't need to fight Pac or Floyd to prove it.Time did tell,ask the former middleweight champion & the Punisher how good he is.
I can refer & compare him to Pacman & Floyd all I want,if U dont like it,don't quote me & respond.It's not pacman or Floyd's fault Martinez or any other fighter isn't recognized the way they deserve,it's stupid fans like a certain someone who adore pfp & fighters who only fight guys coming of bad performances while maintaining a rather useless & mythical term called pfp.
My username is the Bushbaby,I keep it real,if U don't like what I gotta say,ignore it.
1-sergio would beat the sh1t outta margo
2-hes picking on smaller people??williams-6'3..pavlik-6'2..cintron-6 feet
3-manny went to 154 and won the belt he vacated..sergio was willing to fight at a catchweight
4-did you cry when margo got the fight??no..its not the size that worries you its his talent
1....you wish
2...i did'nt say he was...i said he is.....
3.....150 is pac's highest weight...sergio was'nt willing to fight at that unlike margo
4....i did not...i loved the match up......i dont worry about pac fighting sergio, but i worry about sergio having more than 20 lbs of weight advantage over pac tho....
Big break fight,like a ppv fight or something??I don't get what U mean.He isn't as popular as the other 2,but he can beat them both & they will continue to avoid him.if 1 were to look at accomplishments in each's last 3 fights,Martinez easily has been in with better opponents.He deserves more from boxing fans,but boxing fans are too busy pampering boxing's 2 biggest divas to care about the struggles of other fighters.
How can Martinez be overrated when he can beat the 2 fighters ratted higher than him who are cherrypicking big time & receiving major credit for fights they are supposed to win??If Martinez is overrated,what does that really say about fighting guys like Margarito,Clottey & now Mosley who Ur favored to beast by a fvcking landslide??
man, you sound like a broken record. there is very little chance that Martinez will EVER face either pac or floyd.
If martinez is really good, then only time will tell. if he's that good, then he doesn't need to fight either pac nor floyd to prove it. he can make his name known by fighting other challengers, or maybe even going up in weight.
stop always referring to pac or floyd whenever you're talking about Martinez, otherwise you'd be known more as the CRYbaby rather than the BUSHbaby.
you make it sound like its pac or pbf's fault Martinez isn't recognized the way YOU want him to be recognized. i'm sure that if martinez has the goods, he will make his name known to the world in due time without facing either of those fighters.
hes a fukken hyprocite....he claims pac is too samll yet he wants to fight him ......he says pac fights dead men but he wants cotto...he wants to fight people who are way smaller than his a$$.....i hope he fights margo next so peole would stop overrating this guy!
1-sergio would beat the sh1t outta margo
2-hes picking on smaller people??williams-6'3..pavlik-6'2..cintron-6 feet
3-manny went to 154 and won the belt he vacated..sergio was willing to fight at a catchweight
4-did you cry when margo got the fight??no..its not the size that worries you its his talent
I should fight 3 times for the next 2-3 years and then retire, because I guess by that time he will be defeated. There are guys out there who can help to his legacy, like Hopkins, Sturm, Angulo.
:wtf1:......................Hopkins is at 175 and how old? not happening. How the hell would angulo or sturm help sergio's legacy?
He is kind of screwed. For a big money fight he needs to pray for a manny loss to mosley. Better chance of getting a smaller but still lucrative fight in that scenario than a fight with manny or floyd. Cotto if he beats mayorga and margarito may be an option but doubt it. That's an ambitious schedule for cotto.
Looks like his best bet is a fight with the super six winner or bute. Only that would take almost 2 years to come off.
I should fight 3 times for the next 2-3 years and then retire, because I guess by that time he will be defeated. There are guys out there who can help to his legacy, like Hopkins, Sturm, Angulo.
hes a fukken hyprocite....he claims pac is too samll yet he wants to fight him ......he says pac fights dead men but he wants cotto...he wants to fight people who are way smaller than his a$$.....i hope he fights margo next so peole would stop overrating this guy!
Big break fight,like a ppv fight or something??I don't get what U mean.He isn't as popular as the other 2,but he can beat them both & they will continue to avoid him.if 1 were to look at accomplishments in each's last 3 fights,Martinez easily has been in with better opponents.He deserves more from boxing fans,but boxing fans are too busy pampering boxing's 2 biggest divas to care about the struggles of other fighters.
How can Martinez be overrated when he can beat the 2 fighters ratted higher than him who are cherrypicking big time & receiving major credit for fights they are supposed to win??If Martinez is overrated,what does that really say about fighting guys like Margarito,Clottey & now Mosley who Ur favored to beast by a fvcking landslide??
like this guy said^^^
he has to keep his momentum. i thikn what he should aim for is best fights that make him dough
no one (floyd/pac) is gonna give him a fight due to the risk/reward.
cotto won't be around long enough I don't think so sergio has to make this happen. and cotto's not built for 160.
1) force a fight with sturm and ko him spectacularily, he can make dough in europe just like he can here.
2) try and set up a fight with lemieux, would be big biz in montreal. gun for bute.
3) kirkland and angulo- either one can increase his popularity
4) hope pirog gets off his ass, that can be a superfight if pirog stops celebrating for 8 months after big victories....
5) margarito rematch if he beats cotto/mayorga
the important thing for him is to maintain his momentum and keep busy.
if somehow this sudden popularity gets into his head and he starts getting picky with whom he fights, he might end up becoming a one hit wonder.
i think his best option is to go up in weight. both pac and floyd became huge AFTER they went up in weight and i'm sure the same would hold true to Martinez.
If he's truly a great fighter, he should have no problems whatsoever going up. in weight and becoming a champion.