Dempsey knocked out Willard who was Wladdy's size and Wladdy has a suspect chin and doesn't like pressure.
I think its at least even money.
I don't think Dempsey would have a shot against Vitali so I won't ask about him.
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You are getting punched in the face with reality. Just like your girlfriend did when he tried to brawl an ATG.
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Check out the vagina breathing above his eye...You think it would accomadate your needle dink?
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Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis
THE TRUTH
Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.
Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt, was holding on for dear life and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was badly hurt several times in the fight.
punches landed
Vitali 156
Lewis 102
Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.
All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.
Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.
Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.
Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.
Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.
George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"
Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"
Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.
Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
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As wlad begins to tire I think Dempsey can get under he punches and score a KO. Wlad is a bit too chinny for a monster like Dempsey. Both are hell of fighters though.
Read Jack Dempsey's book "Championship Fighting."
It's obvious that he has forgotten more about the craft of boxing than the Klitschkos will ever know.
The Purrity fight was 13 YEARS AGO you moron. That's like bringing up Pacquiao's KO losses. It's totally irrelevant.
Wlad was only 21, only weighed 225 lbs and had never gone past 6 rounds....He dominated the fight and beat the shit out of Purrity for 11 rounds, but he punched himself out in the process, ran out of gas and collapsed from exhaustion. By the way, Vitali destroyed Purrity.
Its not about how long ago it was, its about Wlad's cowardly mentality, and that hasnt changed since 1998.
He is a pussy that needs a 6'8 bodyguard to avenge all of his losses for him, and to take on the heavy hitters.
Steelspammer, you will always lose when trying to compare those girls to Lennox. Lennox didnt need a brother Leonard Lewis to handle his business. Did it all himself like a Man.
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Photo of Oliver Mccall in rematch with the Lewis.
The Purrity fight I don't care about, it's the anomaly of the Brewster fight that I just don't understand. The dude literally dominated that fight for 4 rounds, 2 minutes, 15 seconds. Two left hooks from Brewster and Wlad was done. Makes no sense.
Another thing that makes no sense... the shape of Wlad's body from around that time to now. Dude has built some scary muscle. I wonder how he achieved it. I wonder.
Oh stop it. He hit the gym.
The Purrity fight was 13 YEARS AGO you moron. That's like bringing up Pacquiao's KO losses. It's totally irrelevant.
Wlad was only 21, only weighed 225 lbs and had never gone past 6 rounds....He dominated the fight and beat the shit out of Purrity for 11 rounds, but he punched himself out in the process, ran out of gas and collapsed from exhaustion. By the way, Vitali destroyed Purrity.
Its not about how long ago it was, its about Wlad's cowardly mentality, and that hasnt changed since 1998.
He is a pussy that needs a 6'8 bodyguard to avenge all of his losses for him, and to take on the heavy hitters.
Steelspammer, you will always lose when trying to compare those girls to Lennox. Lennox didnt need a brother Leonard Lewis to handle his business. Did it all himself like a Man.
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Photo of Oliver Mccall in rematch with the Lewis.
I love Dempsey and you're right the Wills criticism isn't valid Jack actually signed to fight him twice. Greb is probably the least discussed and most valid case of Dempsey having avoided.
Stevenson lost both times he fought Igor Vysotsky in 1973 & 1976. Igor dropped Stevenson in both the 1st and 2nd round before KOing him cold in the 3rd in their 2nd meeting..... and Igor was only 6'0 tall while Stevenson was a 6'6 SHW. Just saying.
Hell yea!!!!! Jack even admitted to not wanting to mix it up with Harry. Greb was one bad, shut yo mouth!!!!!!
Dempsey admitted he feared Langford, The claim that he refused to face certain fighters because they were black is not really true. He agreed to fight Wills(a black contender who was by far the best HW of his era that he failed to fight) but the powers that be stopped the fight from going ahead as they did not want the chance of another JJ, though IMO and its certainly debatable, Dempsey deserves some criticism for declaring that he would never face Wills, after Wills tried to block his fight with Firpo. Dempsey did not fight blacks(well only two at the beginning of his career) but don't get it twisted, he has also drawn considerable criticism for not fighting Greb who was white.
I love Dempsey and you're right the Wills criticism isn't valid Jack actually signed to fight him twice. Greb is probably the least discussed and most valid case of Dempsey having avoided.
no, because the Eastern Europeans were still allowed to fight in the amateurs, and in many cases still lost to Americans.
example: Duane Bobick(a white American) who was a gold medalist and amateur champ. all the best Eastern European boxers were all in the amateurs, right? but Bobick still beat them all, plus Teofilo Stevenson
http://www.reocities.com/pedrinet/bobick.html
look at 1972. He faced three of the best of the Soviet Union's HWs, including Vladimir CHERNYSHEV, Valeri INYATKIN, and Kamo SAROYAN
Stevenson lost both times he fought Igor Vysotsky in 1973 & 1976. Igor dropped Stevenson in both the 1st and 2nd round before KOing him cold in the 3rd in their 2nd meeting..... and Igor was only 6'0 tall while Stevenson was a 6'6 SHW. Just saying.
Basilio was a monster. Imagine him with todays crop at 147 and 154. He would be brutal.
Seriously. He was only 5'6 and giving up 6" in height and probably more in reach to Sugar Ray. Dude is relentless. His body attack is vicious.
What are you basing this on?
Jack Dempsey is not a featherfist or a fatass like 90% of Wlad's opponents. Who on Wlad's resume' had the POWER/speed combination that Dempsey has?
Come to think of it, the only opponents that fit that description are two guys who knocked him the fck out. Brewster/sanders.
Sanders wasnt really that kind of a fighter, actually.
I just dont think much of Dempsey as others do. I dont think hes going to effectively walk through someone like Wladimir, Fred Fulton isnt no Wladimir Klitschko. people **** on Wlad a lot, but the mans power is no joke, even if he is tentative.
and Wlad is better since the Sanders fight.
Dempsey grabbed too much too. I think Wlad could just lean on him in the infights and get away with it. that=bad.
I see Wladimir going down. but I see him getting up, and peppering Dempsey as he tries to fight his way in, winning a decision. People underrate Wlads heart.
What are you basing this on?
Jack Dempsey is not a featherfist or a fatass like 90% of Wlad's opponents. Who on Wlad's resume' had the POWER/speed combination that Dempsey has?
Come to think of it, the only opponents that fit that description are two guys who knocked him the fck out. Brewster/sanders.
White Eastern European fighters >>>>>>>>>> White American fighters
White Eastern European fighters are superior. That's a fact.
Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war.
Now Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing.
This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.
no, because the Eastern Europeans were still allowed to fight in the amateurs, and in many cases still lost to Americans.
example: Duane Bobick(a white American) who was a gold medalist and amateur champ. all the best Eastern European boxers were all in the amateurs, right? but Bobick still beat them all, plus Teofilo Stevenson
http://www.reocities.com/pedrinet/bobick.html
look at 1972. He faced three of the best of the Soviet Union's HWs, including Vladimir CHERNYSHEV, Valeri INYATKIN, and Kamo SAROYAN
I actually agree with Steelhammer, despite all my talk about past fighters being as good as todays.
Dempsey is simply overrated. he never beat Harry Wills nor Langford, Wills in particular was the best guy in the division for years and Dempsey never fought him...although to be fair Wladimir never fought his brother...but thats a different situation.
also Willard was coming off a 3+ year long layoff. Fulton was a better win over a big guy for Dempsey.
I see Wladimir going down. but I see him getting up, and peppering Dempsey as he tries to fight his way in, winning a decision. People underrate Wlads heart.