How do you feel about Demetrius Andrade? Kids got crazy hand speed. He Cocky too.

That has always been the best style throughout the history of boxing..... NOWAY... boxer or boxer-puncher is always be the best

How do you feel about Demetrius Andrade? Kids got crazy hand speed. "tell me Im the best daddy" :haha:

BTW I havent read this thread but seeing the title I would also like to add that this kid is already a prima donna and hasn't done jack sh1t. Guys like him and Andre Berto are what's wrong with this sport. The put in zero work and think they deserve big title shots, on top of being arrogant and cocky when they haven't done crap. I miss the days of warriors like Morales, Barrera and others who grinding their way to the top with hardwork and dedication. FWIW don't be shocked if Andrade hooks up with Haymon and starts stealing HBO money as well. Dude has talent, but not the work ethic or humility to match it. Very true. The networks put way too much stock into untested prospects and give them too much, way too early. When they don't pull crowds, stop impressing and don't seem to improve enough, yet still get massive amounts of dough, people wonder why boxing is going to ****. Prospects with talent are not rare at all. Prospects with talent and the will to keep getting better and learning, with the heart of a great champ are really ****ing rare and jumping on the wagon early will most often lead to nothing. It's a pity because it (guys like Berto, Andrade etc) takes a lot away from those excellent young fighters who are really developing quickly but don't have the same backing. Guys who have true world class possibilities. Anyway, he's ok. He has some really major flaws though and I don't think is close to being worth the hype that already surrounds him. There are so many young guys with really fast hands that seem to impress everyone, and yet are so very unimpressive. They have fast hands and get hacks out of there with flurries but they are seriously lacking in good fundamentals of boxing. One of the other major problems with boxing for young guys and the sport overall is the lack of good trainers. There used to be a Freddie Roach in every city teaching young guys with fast hands proper skills and good technique. Sadly, many of these guys are being taught poorly by people with little real knowledge. Roach used to be the norm, but is now sadly some mystical amazing trainer? That's one of the greatest problems facing boxing by far. There are no Arcels, Browns, Futchs, etc anymore. Even the great trainers today don't have nearly the knowledge of guys like them and it is a really big problem because so many young fighters lack the necessary forethought and basic skills to fall back on. Instead, when things are not just a basic walk in the park, you see their real training come out and they are wild, amateurish, and poorly trained.

Yeah what the hell. 20 million it is. Not a big fan of Despaigne's style tbh. :boxing: me neither. done. you erich bastard.

I will take the Cuban, only because I saw the Ukranian lose to a not too good American in the WC's. Got to admit though, the Ukranian lit up Judah nicely not too long ago. The Cuban by UD. might as well throw something on it no? make it more interesting. 20mil? i didn't see his fight he lost, but i'm not all that impressed either way with people's results in the amateurs these days. i think the ruskie's looked better as a pro

Andrade has great athleticism and a good frame but he needs a new trainer. He could be really good but he needs to be pushed harder in training cam because he struggles against guys who have heart but much less talent than he does. Ray Ximinez Jr, jose benevidez, Gary Russell, Erislandi Lara, Guillermo Rigondeaux are all better thatn he is right now.

I watched Andrade win the amateur world championships in 2007 in Chicago. He's ok, but to me he hasn't improved much since then. He had some flashy early ko victories but as he's been moved along he's looking less impressive the last few times out- even though he won his fights fairly easy, I just don't see anything that screams p4p star. who you got in despaigne v syllakh (sp)?

Yeah he looks good. Kind of a strand dude lol he's a beast to me. i like how he put it ON judah. I think he's gonna win on march 4th and people will know his name after that.

Gary Russell looks a better prospect tbh.

Didn't look good in his last fight imo. He has a habit of dropping his hands too much after he punches.

tell you what prospect fight I'm hyped about, the ruskie guy syllakh against the cuban despaigne march 4th. great battle of real deal prospects Yeah he looks good. Kind of a strand dude lol

I caught him at the Twin Rivers against the Chatman, who fought last FNF, and the judges scorecards were ridiculous, just ridiculous. Chatman was real competitive and they each were throwing close to 100 punches per round. Andrdade is a decent prospect, but has trouble against opponents that can take his punch and keep the pressure on him. At 6'1, southpaw, solid stamina, good speed and combinations, he should be taking everybody out, but instead of taking center ring, he lets them come forward and have their best shot winning. Maybe it's lack of strength, lack of ring generalship, and/or just overconfidence, but there's something wrong.

tell you what prospect fight I'm hyped about, the ruskie guy syllakh against the cuban despaigne march 4th. great battle of real deal prospects

I think there a lot of better young boxers than him but i aint talking about boxing ability just his athletic ability and coordination. I am not saying he is anything amazing but his athleticism is pretty damn good kid could have went into any sport and succeeded. Yo Adrian Broner is the real deal his fight against Daniel Ponce de leon is going to be on HBO before Saul Alvarez vs. Matthew Hatton. I am looking to forward his performance in that fight. broner's way bigger than ponce, i would prefer to see him in with someone like another lw prospect sherif bogere or an edner cherry level guy. then he can step it up to mercito gesta or a david diaz type gatekeeper

I agree with what you are saying and seeing how there was an article on him a few days, you can look no further than Ricardo Williams. The thing though is that these young guys get the right bouts to help them develop as fighters. Andrade clearly isn't and to top it off his team (including himself) are so dellusional that they don't even see it themselves. I mean it doesn't take a genius to see what's gonna happen. To give you an analogy (so you know what I'm talking about) let's say that you never study, barely do your homework and then your professor tells you that there is a test coming up. Do you honestly think you will pass that sh1t? Same sh1t with Andrade, and if you know anything about building fighters then you know what's gonna happen once Andrade steps up. There are some very rare expections, such as Jermain Taylor, but even he was exposed once he fought other top fighters (Pavlik, Froch and Abraham). Yeah Im sure you know more about Boxing then me I have only been really following it for about 4 years and I have never really seen how prospects progressed and how their careers have blossomed. I was just pretty blown away by his natural ability thats what I was trying to say like I think there are a lot better boxers with better technique and have a better head on their shoulders I just feel that his coordination is tremendous. Kind of reminds me of Zab Judah a little bit. I am extremely high on Jose Benavidez Jr. if I have ever seen a kid with a good head on his shoulders he is it and also he is with Top Rank so you know they know what their doing. Thanks for the explanation brother.

Raushee Warren

Gary Russell Jr. is the real deal man. I can see this kid being pound for pound king and a boxing legend I saw him fight in the amateurs twice. You should check out his younger brother Gary Antonio Russell (All 5 on them are named Gary Russell, but have diff middle names). The youngest one is the nicest one outta all of them (talent wise) IMO.

All those guys you named as well you can come up with flaws and hate on any prospect. You can act like you know but you really have no idea on any prospect until they are tested. I agree with what you are saying and seeing how there was an article on him a few days, you can look no further than Ricardo Williams. The thing though is that these young guys get the right bouts to help them develop as fighters. Andrade clearly isn't and to top it off his team (including himself) are so dellusional that they don't even see it themselves. I mean it doesn't take a genius to see what's gonna happen. To give you an analogy (so you know what I'm talking about) let's say that you never study, barely do your homework and then your professor tells you that there is a test coming up. Do you honestly think you will pass that sh1t? Same sh1t with Andrade, and if you know anything about building fighters then you know what's gonna happen once Andrade steps up. There are some very rare expections, such as Jermain Taylor, but even he was exposed once he fought other top fighters (Pavlik, Froch and Abraham).

Gary Russell Jr. is the real deal man. I can see this kid being pound for pound king and a boxing legend I saw him fight in the amateurs twice. I'm impressed with this kid Russell Jr. But Andrade will probably be a journeyman who had a decorated amateur career.

Gary Russell Jr. is the real deal man. I can see this kid being pound for pound king and a boxing legend I saw him fight in the amateurs twice.