update on Haye mandatory/s

Everyone knows that Haye is not fighting Povetkin, he is just throwing these 3 names out to get some positive feedback, Chagaev last performance was just disgusting, he has become unmotivated slow and fat, he is just in for one last payday and he has no chance since he arguably lost his last fight (people who watched that fight scored it a draw or a SD loss to friggin Travis Walker). So it will either be Chagaev or maybe Boytsov and not Povetkin. Haye has found another excuse not to fight one of the Klitschkos, its really time for him to leave the sport or finally walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

No, but he wouldn't get much stick for fighting those two, and might even earn a bit of respect which he wouldn't get from fighting Chags. He is the mandatory its not like Haye makes the rankings.

I know but who do you think its gonna be? If Chageav can fight in the uk it will be him. Will people say he ducked Povetkin/Boystov? No, but he wouldn't get much stick for fighting those two, and might even earn a bit of respect which he wouldn't get from fighting Chags.

I'm aware of that. But he's far from the best of those three, if his last fight is anything to judge. I know but who do you think its gonna be? If Chageav can fight in the uk it will be him. Will people say he ducked Povetkin/Boystov?

Chagaev is ranked number 1 so of course he will be first out those lot. I'm aware of that. But he's far from the best of those three, if his last fight is anything to judge.

Yeah ok, no way in buggery does he fight either Povetkin or Boytsov. Chagaev maybe, if he thinks he's sufficiently shot and can convince the BBBC to let him fight in the UK. Chagaev is ranked number 1 so of course he will be first out those lot.

This can't be true cos all the Wlad fans said he was gonna face Mormeck,Tarver or Toney. Yeah ok, no way in buggery does he fight either Povetkin or Boytsov. Chagaev maybe, if he thinks he's sufficiently shot and can convince the BBBC to let him fight in the UK.

I dont think you understand that skill requires technique. And that technique is part of being skilled. The 2 can be entirely different attributes altogether. Yes they go hand in hand when talking about certain aspects of boxing, but you can have a technically good boxer who lacks skill (ie. kotelnik), and a very skillful boxer who lacks technique (joe calzaghe) Just as 2 examples. Haye is the latter and klitschko is the opposite. Haye's skill and athleticism allows him to do things in the ring that the brothers can't do, but sometimes his technique lets him down, ie his punches start getting wider when he has his opponent hurt. Prince Naseem Hamed had bundles of skill in the ring, but he had very little technique (well proper technique), but if you guys want to be anal than whatever.

The one from Monte Barrett that knocked him down. ive watched this fight a few times,i dont see any proper punch and any proper knockdown. he gets hit on back of head in a clinch walks backwards and is square up in like round 2,hardly a proper knockdown!. 5th round hes squared up and get hit and looks like he falls down/loses balance and punch helps it,but its no knockdown solely from a powerful and hurtful punch,he also gets hit while on the floor by barrett. i dont see any proper convincing knockdowns,where he has full balance and gets rocked/hurt/flashed knockdown to the floor of his feet.

lol,love how the haters are still so obsessed with haye!. i bet haye loves being the cartoon villian for people,haters atleast give him more publicity and notice,youde be doing more damage if you didnt acknowledge him what so ever!. really strange why klitshko fans love to hate haye so much,their almost as riled up as klitschkos have become,its so funny!. and wlad is more tecnical than haye,but he is scared,not quite as bad as fraudley was,but he is a scared fighter. haye,is more risk taker,he seems easy to hit,but what clean hard effective punches has anyone landed on him since hes been at heavyweight??. ye is more explosive,and his fast punches hurt the most. he counters well,and can use the jab ok,and works the body to head well. he uses more punches more often and better combination mixes than klitschkos do. ide say he is more accurate and cleaner puncher than vitali. vitali is heavy handed,but looks un co ordinated a lot of the times,not that it matters when fighting over matched opponents who suck. The one from Monte Barrett that knocked him down.

haye vs povetkin make it happen dont worry,adam booth and haye are kidnapping boystov and chageav as we speak!. i dont think wele be seeing either for a few months!.Lol. :firedevil

haye vs povetkin make it happen

lol,love how the haters are still so obsessed with haye!. i bet haye loves being the cartoon villian for people,haters atleast give him more publicity and notice,youde be doing more damage if you didnt acknowledge him what so ever!. really strange why klitshko fans love to hate haye so much,their almost as riled up as klitschkos have become,its so funny!. and wlad is more tecnical than haye,but he is scared,not quite as bad as fraudley was,but he is a scared fighter. haye,is more risk taker,he seems easy to hit,but what clean hard effective punches has anyone landed on him since hes been at heavyweight??. ye is more explosive,and his fast punches hurt the most. he counters well,and can use the jab ok,and works the body to head well. he uses more punches more often and better combination mixes than klitschkos do. ide say he is more accurate and cleaner puncher than vitali. vitali is heavy handed,but looks un co ordinated a lot of the times,not that it matters when fighting over matched opponents who suck.

These fanboys don't even know what they are talking about. Hayefaker's money punch is the rabbit punch, he used against Barrret and Ruiz with great effectiveness, otherwise he wouldn't have survived and if it was anywhere but Britain, he would have gotten DQd for that or at the very least a warning. If Vagina finally gets her balls back and fights either Povetkin, Boytsov, or Chagaev, I will give him no credit because it's not his choice to face them, they are his mandatories. The ridicule won't stop because this will be the first time he actually faces a top 10 not 36-40 years of age. Vagina promised he'll be fighting a couple of top 10s prior to fighting and beating both Klitschkos, that was 3 years ago, and he has yet to do either of those things. However, I still maintain that Vagina will not fight one of these three and if he does, he will run for 12 rounds and let the crooked judges give him the fight. Crooked judges LOL a English fighter gets crooked judges in Germany when facing their home fighter basically Valeuv was a home fighter. You clearly are retarded why don't you get laid that way it might stop you saying "vagina" all the time.

These fanboys don't even know what they are talking about. Hayefaker's money punch is the rabbit punch, he used against Barrret and Ruiz with great effectiveness, otherwise he wouldn't have survived and if it was anywhere but Britain, he would have gotten DQd for that or at the very least a warning. If Vagina finally gets her balls back and fights either Povetkin, Boytsov, or Chagaev, I will give him no credit because it's not his choice to face them, they are his mandatories. The ridicule won't stop because this will be the first time he actually faces a top 10 not 36-40 years of age. Vagina promised he'll be fighting a couple of top 10s prior to fighting and beating both Klitschkos, that was 3 years ago, and he has yet to do either of those things. However, I still maintain that Vagina will not fight one of these three and if he does, he will run for 12 rounds and let the crooked judges give him the fight. I dont think he cares what a little gay Eastern European prick thinks of him tbh.

:rofl: I stopped reading there because of deep belly laughter. These fanboys don't even know what they are talking about. Hayefaker's money punch is the rabbit punch, he used against Barrret and Ruiz with great effectiveness, otherwise he wouldn't have survived and if it was anywhere but Britain, he would have gotten DQd for that or at the very least a warning. If Vagina finally gets her balls back and fights either Povetkin, Boytsov, or Chagaev, I will give him no credit because it's not his choice to face them, they are his mandatories. The ridicule won't stop because this will be the first time he actually faces a top 10 not 36-40 years of age. Vagina promised he'll be fighting a couple of top 10s prior to fighting and beating both Klitschkos, that was 3 years ago, and he has yet to do either of those things. However, I still maintain that Vagina will not fight one of these three and if he does, he will run for 12 rounds and let the crooked judges give him the fight.

I dont think you understand that skill requires technique. And that technique is part of being skilled.

All the things you have mentioned are issues with technique not skill, like I have already said I don't think you understand the difference. He has a lack of defensive technique, but he can quite often slip and counter and roll shots in a skilful way. The throwing of combinations is related to technique not skill. I dont think you understand that skill requires technique.

He is very skilled...his deficiencies are in his technique not his level of skill.... . :rofl: I stopped reading there because of deep belly laughter.

What skills? He just throws wide power shots and other than just circling away to avoid contact he had no defense at all. Thats not true at all...this is comical im pretty sure some of you guys have seen probably 2 or 3 haye fights, and your basing your opinion pretty much completely on the valuev fight? Absolute noob