makin waaaaaay too much outta this. esp you so called "experts". its really simple... Wlad and Tyson were both head cases in the ring (crumble when the script didnt go their way, which it normally did)
I disagree here. Wlad had never problems with any kind of style. In fact he faced more different styles than Tyson.
Even against Ross Puritty and Brewster he had no problems (before he gassed) and his loss to Ross and Lamon was not a style issue. The only time Wlad had style problems was against Corrie Sanders. It WAS INDEED Sanders' style, speed, strength and stance where Wlad failed. But Ross and Brewster were not a style issue.
They both got knocked out by bums at one point or another.
I disagree here, too. Wlad got KOed by a bum (Ross), but Douglas is not a bum.
They both dominated the Heavys at one point. The difference is this: Tyson was mean, fast, and had a chin.
But with such logic Tyson would win against ANYBODY, because you could always claim that "Holmes/Lennox/Ali dominated the heavies at one point but Tyson was mean, fast, hardchinned like no other".
Easy pick, tyson all day long.
You _CAN_ pick Tyson, but I disagree that it's an _easy_ pick.
I dont think he would have beaten Vitali but he starches Wlad in 4.
Tyson NOT ONCE KOed anyone of Wlad's caliber (experience, KOratio, height, weight) in his entire career, let alone in his prime and let alone in 4 rounds.
The most experienced (number of real heavyweight fights 200x2) was Brian Nielsen: Tyson couldn't KO him (he retired).
The second most experienced was LeLe (Tyson got KOed).
The third most experienced was Larry Holmes (who was 38 years old).
Tyson has never ever faced such a package of strength, experience and size like Wlad.
Just like when Tyson fought Green and Tillis. You obviously haven't a clue what happened with Tyson the night he fought Douglas. I don't need to explain it for the thousandth time. Those of us in the know laugh at idiots like you that think they know boxing. Learn your history, son.
If youve got an axe to grind, do it some place else. Its "idiots like you" that have turned the NSB into a piece of **** over the last 5 yrs. Always wanting to start a fight instead of talking boxing. Let me give you a little insight here...
Mike Tyson is far and away my favorite fighter of all time. No one close. Facts are facts, though. And tyson DID crumble when things didnt go his way. As far as the Douglas fight goes, Tyson got knocked out by a second rate bum who would have never been in the ring with tyson if not for Don King. Tyson half assed it in training and look what happened...Douglas didnt go down as planned and Tyson got Kayoed.Doesnt matter what was in his personal life. even Tyson will admit that he folded in this fight. That is what is meant by "crumbling".
Do us all a favor and go back to blogging about Star Wars or whatever it is you people do and leave the boxing chat to the folks that know what they are talking about. Might wanna know who you are talking to before you starting questioning someones credentials, esp when it comes to me and this sport. "son"
So to discredit Ross' chin you mention
My comment was about the hysteria of sister fans, namely you.
Watching Puritty get KTFO immediately after you crown him greatest chin ever is the funniest thing Ive seen on this board.
(crumble when the script didnt go their way
Just like when Tyson fought Green and Tillis. You obviously haven't a clue what happened with Tyson the night he fought Douglas. I don't need to explain it for the thousandth time. Those of us in the know laugh at idiots like you that think they know boxing. Learn your history, son.
makin waaaaaay too much outta this. esp you so called "experts". its really simple... Wlad and Tyson were both head cases in the ring (crumble when the script didnt go their way, which it normally did) They both got knocked out by bums at one point or another. They both dominated the Heavys at one point. The difference is this: Tyson was mean, fast, and had a chin. Easy pick, tyson all day long. I dont think he would have beaten Vitali but he starches Wlad in 4. Wlad couldnt survive thru the beating Tyson would give him. Wlads a prizefighter, not a warrior like his big bro.
LMAO! Just because feather fisted Vitali, and Glass Wlad couldnt knock him down, sister fans automatically assume Puritty's chin is made of IRON.
If you want to know who has the greatest chin in boxing history, its the guy who sparred 300 rounds with PRIME Mike Tyson and never went down once. Never been dropped proffesionaly, or in amateurs, never been concussed, and his only TKO loss was to Lennox Lewis where he remained upright.
I dunno bro. Something about Mercer and Sanders chin seem to appeal more to me. Oliver had great whiskers though.
What about Hagler? Boxing history has had many chins...
Prime Wlad was destroyed by a fat golfer and part time boxer Corrie Sanders in 2 rounds.
He's better guided now.
Honestly.. hate to say it.. but Wlad of Today wears tysons legs out with hugging and leaning. That's the strat E man would have for him. He'd probably never get hit in the head.
I love tyson to death.. but I'm sure any sensible poster can picture the fight and realize it's more likely to see Wlad laying on tysons back, wearing his legs down than it is to see tyson get inside his jab.
LMAO! Just because feather fisted Vitali, and Glass Wlad couldnt knock him down, sister fans automatically assume Puritty's chin is made of IRON.
If you want to know who has the greatest chin in boxing history, its the guy who sparred 300 rounds
So to discredit Ross' chin you mention
1) Wlad's chin (what the heck?)
2) Vitali's featherfistedness (yeah!)
3) Sparring sessions with head gear
Mmmmkay, that surely underlined your quality as, let's call you, a colorful personality.
LMAO! Just because feather fisted Vitali, and Glass Wlad couldnt knock him down, sister fans automatically assume Puritty's chin is made of IRON.
If you want to know who has the greatest chin in boxing history, its the guy who sparred 300 rounds with PRIME Mike Tyson and never went down once. Never been dropped proffesionaly, or in amateurs, never been concussed, and his only TKO loss was to Lennox Lewis where he remained upright.
I think it was because Rahman, the guy who starched your boy Lennox with ease, couldn't take him out. Honest mistake. Puritty did have pretty decent whiskers though.
lol, Ross Puritty has the greatest chin of all time? now Ive heard it all...
Douglas wasnt that bad a fighter, by the way. just very unmotivated and lazy(as shown espedcially in his pathetic shape against Holyfield). He had an excellent jab.
never seen someone score double knockdowns with just a jab in a single round.
LMAO! Just because feather fisted Vitali, and Glass Wlad couldnt knock him down, sister fans automatically assume Puritty's chin is made of IRON.
If you want to know who has the greatest chin in boxing history, its the guy who sparred 300 rounds with PRIME Mike Tyson and never went down once. Never been dropped proffesionaly, or in amateurs, never been concussed, and his only TKO loss was to Lennox Lewis where he remained upright.
Current Wlad would KTFO any version of Tyson after 1989 and you all know it.
I agree, but if you put them together at their best, Tyson takes it easily.
Prime and wasnt experienced tyson destroyed berbick, thomas and HOLMES.
and if wlad get KO by speedy like corrie sanders so how he can last 3 round again speed demon like tyson.
STYLE MAKE FIGHT
What is this infantile logic? "If Rahman can KO Lennox how can Lennox KO Rahman?"
Moreover Sanders is a tall southpaw.
Moreover why don't you start your logic with "If Buster could KO Tyson how can Tyson survive Wlad?"
Prime and wasnt experienced tyson destroyed berbick, thomas and HOLMES.
and if wlad get KO by speedy like corrie sanders so how he can last 3 round again speed demon like tyson.
STYLE MAKE FIGHT
Stop this infantile logic. "If Rahman can KO Lennox how can Lennox KO Rahman" is equally stupid.