& his Legacy & ATG HW Ranking?
Wlad record is very impressive, but do his losses relly hurt him?
His 3 losses were against a Journyman & 2 C level fighters and all resulted in him being KO'd.
-Ross Puritty-24-13 (Had won just 1 of his last 4 going into Wlad fight) And ended up with 27 losses.
-Corrie Sanders(Nate Tubbs & Hasim Rahman had already KO'd Sanders, and after Wlad fight, Sanders would only have 5 more fights losing 2 of them)
-Lamon Brewster(Going into the Wlad fight Clifford Etienne & Charles Shufford had already defeated Brewster)
They will be talked about when he is gone from boxing but he has had a damn good run since. Losses happen to everyone and I think it says alot about him that he was able to bounce back and become the best in the world after 3 stoppages losses while some lose 1 fight and are never the fighter they were.
Lennox had 6 1/2 years between his losses and I've heard it argued that his prime was sandwiched between them. Wlad has gone longer than that without a loss, so if he's still prime now, it's certainly arguable that all of his losses were pre-prime.
The Puritty loss obviously doesn't affect him at all. A 12 round fight with less than two years as a pro, back when he was only 225 pounds, long before any semblance of prime.
Obviously his losses (and knockdowns in fights he won) tend to make him underrated in H2H matchups, with him usually losing by KO, even to guys that didn't resemble punchers.
But I expect him to rise in the rankings years down the road, especially if he's able to dominate several more years.
They must hurt him but he's shown great determination to get back on track, it gives hopes to other HW that he is beatable if there was anyone decent out there that is :nonono:
With those standards how many good heavies did Larry Holmes beat?
He beat better Heavyweights than Wladamir thats for certain.
His wins over Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers x2, Gerry Cooney, Tim Witherspoon, Terver Berbick, Carl Williams & unbeaten Ray Mercer, surpass Wladamir's by a fair bit I'd say.
Not much at all. If anything, those losses help him. Wlad was supposed to be finished and chuck in the exposed hypejob bin after Brewster. He's gone from that to dominating his division with ease.
its the fact he has defeated no good heavyweight which makes the losses worse
if he lost to fighters but say beat them again or defeated some really good heavyweights, then they would not matter too much but his resume is god awful
With those standards how many good heavies did Larry Holmes beat?
his record is of quantity not quality.
some say that quantity of wins is the quality.
but i prefer to judge a fighter on who he fought,how he fought them,and how many big fights he won,and in impressive fashion,whether it be a complete shut out,or getting knocked down,losing on points but winning by KO in the end.
who someone did not fight can often say more about thier career than who they did fight.
its the fact he has defeated no good heavyweight which makes the losses worse
if he lost to fighters but say beat them again or defeated some really good heavyweights, then they would not matter too much but his resume is god awful