Win, lose or draw, do Oscar Dela Hoya have the greatest resume in boxing?
Never duck anyone and fought everyone!
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Chavez Sr x2
Whitiker
Tito Trinidad
Hopkins
Gatti
Mosely x2
Mayorga
Vergas on steroids
Ike Qutaye
feel free to add if I missed anyone!!!
Ali is the only boxer I can think of right now with a better resume!
Hopkins!! He beat De La Hoya, Trinidad, Pavlik, Pascal, Jones, Dawson, fought Calzaghe ,Taylor!! He has been a great fighter taking on anyone and everyone!!
Still not like Oscar's!!
Hopkins!! He beat De La Hoya, Trinidad, Pavlik, Pascal, Jones, Dawson, fought Calzaghe ,Taylor!! He has been a great fighter taking on anyone and everyone!!
"2nd best resume ever!!!"
Oscar's fine, but there is a history before 1990. Lets look into it before we enter the "best ever" category.
No body can go through Oscar Dela Hoya resume undefeated!!!!!!
What about Holyfield:
Bowe x 3
Tyson x 2
Lewis x 2
Ruiz x 3
Moorer x 2
Qawi x 2
Toney
Mercer
Holmes
Foreman
Cooper
Douglas
Byrd
Rahman
Valuev
Dokes
Thomas
Stewart
Czyz
Donald
Oquendo
Damn, forgot about Holyfield! thats a great Resume Too.
-Kirby-;9906163']Really? I thought the reason Mexicans hated him so much was because he was a pretty boy getting all the women.
Nop they hate him because he is ashamed of them.. look at him...Married and conceived children with a puerto rican singer, lives in puerto Rico (obviously for tax purposes) and speak proper English and is kind of gay if google oscar fishnets hahaha. The hate is mutual
He did have a lot of hand picked opponents whoe posted no threat to him, At the beginning of his career he fought a lot of naturally smaller guys and veteran fighters, But they were good fighters just smaller or older!!
What about Holyfield:
Bowe x 3
Tyson x 2
Lewis x 2
Ruiz x 3
Moorer x 2
Qawi x 2
Toney
Mercer
Holmes
Foreman
Cooper
Douglas
Byrd
Rahman
Valuev
Dokes
Thomas
Stewart
Czyz
Donald
Oquendo
Oscar hands down. BHOP, Mayweather, pac , TITO, Shane, Whitaker, Chavez, Camacho, gatti, Vargas, Quartey, Etc.... name a better one? Oscar by far not Ray
You're comparing them by weight class when Tito is the naturally larger man and started his career two divisions heavier than Oscar. And you just did it again. A fair comparison, with the weight class spin you keep trying to interject would be to say, "Tito's win over Reid is comparable to Oscar's victory over M.A. Gonzalez" from a competitive standpoint (and that may be giving Reid too much credit). Reid was not that good, just admit it. Give it up already.
I'm not comparing them by weight-class. Are you not understanding.
I'm not even comparing their resumes or accomplishment. Please understand that.
Again the point is when I jumped in the conversation people here were down playing Reid and yet bigging up the Vargas and Mayorga win.
My argument is how you going to big up those wins especially the Mayorga win at 154 over the Reid win at 154? WTF had Mayorga done at 154 at the time? Beat Mitchell and Picirrillo? Vargas was never the same after Tito, he just wasn't. And, his fights between Oscar and Tito showed it. That win of Oscar is just as good as Reid win for Tito. But, if you want to say that win of Vargas is better, fine. But, no other win at 154 or above is better than that Tito win.
I would admit Reid is no good, fine happy. But, as long as you admit every Oscar win at 154 and above is no good either.
That is the comparison. Are you understanding now or still having trouble?
Show me where I made a career comparison or resume?
Go back and read my first comment in this thread, and see what my comment was about.
Again my argument here is that don't downplay Tito win over Reid. Because, that win is just as good or better than any other win Oscar has at 154+
So if we going to be downplaying that win for Tito then lets downplay Oscar whole run above 147.
You're comparing them by weight class when Tito is the naturally larger man and started his career two divisions heavier than Oscar. And you just did it again. A fair comparison, with the weight class spin you keep trying to interject would be to say, "Tito's win over Reid is comparable to Oscar's victory over M.A. Gonzalez" from a competitive standpoint (and that may be giving Reid too much credit). Reid was not that good, just admit it. Give it up already.
That is a fair point...
plus some dont add these wins
1 Genaro Hernandez he was undefeated
2 John John Molina i thought it was but Oscar won
3 Rafael Ruelas first time he unified the titles
4 Jesse James Lejia had only 1 lose and is also a champion
5 Felix Strum can go either way but Oscar won
6 Mayorga at the time people said that was a great win for Oscar
7 Miguel Angel Gonzalez was a awsome fighter to bad couldnt handle the loses
8 David Kamu 1 lose fighter
9 Wilfredo Rivera gave Whitaker hell for two fights
10 Oba Carr 2 lose fighter
11 Javier Catellijo was a pretty good Midleweight fighter
12 Derrel Coley 1 lose fighter
13 Arturo Gatti well come you have to add him
14 Yuri Boy Campas
In boxing, going 5-5 is losing most of your fights. Going .500 isn't good at all. And I'll say he went 6-4, because he definitely beat Tito. Mediocre. He was a very good fighter, but hardly an all time great.
Mosely was juicing how is that a lose
LMAO!! Isn't that 5-5? How is that MOST? Use your brain!! Jesus some people here!!
Isn't that
In boxing, going 5-5 is losing most of your fights. Going .500 isn't good at all. And I'll say he went 6-4, because he definitely beat Tito. Mediocre. He was a very good fighter, but hardly an all time great.
Oscar never won a big fight, by far most overrated gay fighter in history. Such a manly sport of boxing, and grown men jizzed their pants for his good looks, not his boxing ability.
He lost to
Qaurtly
John John Molina
Whitaker
Shane Mosley
Felix Trinidad
Sturm
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacman
Mosely was jucing and really adding Trinidad if Oscar lost in your opinion to Molina, Strum and Quartey then be real and dont add trinidad to his loses