I was a fan of floyds until he ducked margarito, cotto, now pac but was willing to fight hatton, marquez and finally fought mosley at a old age so i cant give him is props or defend him anymore. close fight with zab ok cool he's on his way. pulled of a close fight with an old oscar ok. but when he retired after cotto beat mosley i was like hell no. 90% of boxing fans, promoters, critics, etc... say he a chicken ****. i cant defend him anymore.
21 of those 25 KO's were at 130. He's had to box more rather than fight and be aggressive like he was in 130, in the higher weights as his power doesn't go up with him. I have no problem with that, because he's doing everything fair and square, no steroids and still undefeated even after going up 5 weight classes. You have to lose some to gain some. So he dropped his offensiveness considerably but he became smarter and adapted to fighting to win on decisions.
Don't tryy and take anything away from the Chico win, that is the one PBF fight you can't discredit. He doesn't run anymore than .......
For that fight, Diego was severely weight drained, had the flu that week and was thinking about having to do some time after the fight with Floyd.
As for Gatti, he was not a prime fighter anymore. Even Gatti struggled to make 140 but he did it just to fight Floyd. After the Floyd fight, Gatti moved up to 147 BUT that was too high to compete adequately and therefore had to retire.
I don't want to put words into someone's mouth BUT that is what I believe the other poster wanted to say when he said that the real Gatti and Diego were not all there that night.
He needed corrupt Cortez's repeated multiple interventions to achieve that. The record will never show it but real boxing fans will always know...
So it was Cortez's fault that Ricky... dropped his hands to his waist... and walked in a straight line towards Floyd, and got smashed with a left hook?
I mean if it was a decision win, and Ricky didnt get the nod because the Ref kept splitting them up.. that's one thing...
But he got flattened, not because Cortez kept breaking them up... but because when Ricky walked back in, he did so with zero caution or defense.
Don't tryy and take anything away from the Chico win, that is the one PBF fight you can't discredit. He doesn't run anymore than Pacquiao does, Pacquiao just throws a million punches while moving side to side meaning people don't notice. Floyd used to get more KOs/TKOs in the lower weights because #1 he threw more combinations, #2 he went to the body more meaning he could stop guys late.
hey, if flomos can use hindsight to shiit on everything pac has done from 126 to 147, why can't I shiit on wifebeater's record?
He needed corrupt Cortez's repeated multiple interventions to achieve that. The record will never show it but real boxing fans will always know...
You shoud be mad at the turnbuckle. Not Floyd. That's just unfair.
I've never understood why Mayweather was ever accused of being a runner in the first place.It's not like the guy even uses consistent lateral movement.Even against Carlos Baldomir he wasn't really running.
when someone has a good footwork, he is automatically a runner....
floyd synchronizes his footwork with good head movement, thats the only thing he does, and there arent many fighters who do that like floyd can.
he is anything but a runner, the boxing ring is his home, he grew up in there, its not easy to make him run.
he wasnt even running away from castillo, a great pressure fighter who can hunt you for 24 rounds if needed.
what khan did vs maidana was running, and it showed his footwork was clearly overrated.
he has to work on that, maybe he should train with floyd instead of pacquiao :D
khan was lucky he wasnt fighting castillo that night, he would have been exhausted after the first 2 rounds.
it looked like he was trying to break usain bolts 100meter world record.
He sure did Knock Ricky Hatton the F out when he was still undefeated...
He needed corrupt Cortez's repeated multiple interventions to achieve that. The record will never show it but real boxing fans will always know...
yeah, but gatti was a C-level fighter, wifebeater's words not mine's, and corrales wasn't at his best against wifebeater. but it is what it is.
Don't tryy and take anything away from the Chico win, that is the one PBF fight you can't discredit. He doesn't run anymore than Pacquiao does, Pacquiao just throws a million punches while moving side to side meaning people don't notice. Floyd used to get more KOs/TKOs in the lower weights because #1 he threw more combinations, #2 he went to the body more meaning he could stop guys late.
yeah, but gatti was a C-level fighter, wifebeater's words not mine's, and corrales wasn't at his best against wifebeater. but it is what it is.
That still doesnt make them bums. You said they didnt look their greatest against mayweather, but who does?
I've never understood why Mayweather was ever accused of being a runner in the first place.It's not like the guy even uses consistent lateral movement.Even against Carlos Baldomir he wasn't really running.
Him "running" is still better to watch than two MMA guys hugging for 15 minutes
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Typical boxing fan who has no concept of combat. Its ok thou, ignorance is sometimes bliss .
The late Diego Corrales and Arturo Gatti were not bums, they were warriors who gave it their all regardless how bad things looked. Show some respect.
yeah, but gatti was a C-level fighter, wifebeater's words not mine's, and corrales wasn't at his best against wifebeater. but it is what it is.
Explain.......:boxing:
PBF was much more active in his younger days then he is now. PBF is a great defensive fighter and that's his pedigree. It's also the reason why he is prolly not going to end up like his uncle and father with the slurred speech.
I am a Pac fan but I take nothing away from PBF, he is a GREAT DEFENSIVE TECHNICAL fighter who is undefeated. I am just pissed that the Pac-PBF fight will prolly never happen.
The 25 guys that got KO'd were BUms
The late Diego Corrales and Arturo Gatti were not bums, they were warriors who gave it their all regardless how bad things looked. Show some respect.