My end of 2010 P4P list!! IMO

floyd fought once.....pac fought twice. pac did not lose one round........your opinion is biased. he has the ultimate offense not mayweather defense but his greatest defense is his greatest offense if you can understand that. doubt it. sergio martinez is obvioiusly top 3 but your opinion is your opinion. monitel better than pac? ha. feb. 19 you'll see the flash the future filipino star beat that ass and your **** will be annihilated ;) Floyd Mayweather fought and beat the guy who brutalized Maragarito. Pacquiao did fight twice. But his second fight is against a guy who got brutalized by the guy who lost nearly ever round to Mayweather. Also, right before the fight Margarito got brutalized in, he was revealed to be a cheater. So it is possible that Margarito is not an actual world class fighter. Mayweather deserves to be ranked ahead of Pacquiao.

Sergio Williams #1 I don't think so. His biggest wins are against Paul and Kelly. Those are easy fights for anyone with any decent boxing skills. Sergio's resume is horrible! Lol, WTF are you talking about?

floyd fought once.....pac fought twice. pac did not lose one round........your opinion is biased. he has the ultimate offense not mayweather defense but his greatest defense is his greatest offense if you can understand that. doubt it. sergio martinez is obvioiusly top 3 but your opinion is your opinion. monitel better than pac? ha. feb. 19 you'll see the flash the future filipino star beat that ass and your **** will be annihilated ;)

just delete ur account ts

I agree with you P4P is just a mythical based opinion. But when you rank all the skills it takes to be a professional boxer/fighter PBF is just #1 defense = Floyd offensive skill set = Floyd and Marquez speed = Floyd power = lot of people other than Floyd footwork = Floyd boxing record = Floyd Boxing IQ = Floyd All of that makes PBF #1 P4P Martinez is good, I am a fan but he needs to fight on the main stage against "A level" boxers to get to #1. C+ fighters like Pavlik and PW does not do it for ME. Again, all those are just opinion not facts, except for the boxing record...But, then again where is JCC jr? Again you're going by opinion and not facts. And, LOL @ P-Will being a C+ fighter. Anyways, is your opinion that Floyd is #1 cool, I don't agree but cool. Is the TS opinion that Martinez is #1 I don't agree but cool. Is my opinion that Pac, Floyd, Wladimir, Martinez, whoever can be #1 how can anybody say is wrong when is just my opinion and my opinion is as good as yours, the TS, anybody else for that matter?

That's not how it works. P4P is not about being undefeated nor do you lose it in the ring. Talk about being a novice. Again in the last Martinez has very damn good case to have a better resume than Floyd. What is the definition of P4P? Now the whole P4P is a mythical based opinion. Now your opinion, no fact, but opinion you know the difference right? Is that Floyd is #1 best P4P... Again there is no facts of proving it is just an opinion. And, who is to say that you're wrong with that opinion? The only people who would disagree with your opinion is the one with a different opinion. But, who's to say that they're are wrong with their opinion? The P4P list is just to have fun in debating it. Because, you can ask 10 different people to give you their top 10 P4P list and every single one of them it will be different. There is really no right or wrong. If the TS thinks Martinez is the best P4P...Then so be it that is his opinion, you and I might disagree with him but he and I would disagree with your choice and you and him would disagree of my choice. Because, P4P is just a mythical based opinion rankings that mean nothing at all. I agree with you P4P is just a mythical based opinion. But when you rank all the skills it takes to be a professional boxer/fighter PBF is just #1 defense = Floyd offensive skill set = Floyd and Marquez speed = Floyd power = lot of people other than Floyd footwork = Floyd boxing record = Floyd Boxing IQ = Floyd All of that makes PBF #1 P4P Martinez is good, I am a fan but he needs to fight on the main stage against "A level" boxers to get to #1. C+ fighters like Pavlik and PW does not do it for ME.

Martinez is on the list, just not in the top 5. PBF reigns supreme until he is beaten period. That's not how it works. P4P is not about being undefeated nor do you lose it in the ring. Talk about being a novice. Again in the last Martinez has very damn good case to have a better resume than Floyd. What is the definition of P4P? Now the whole P4P is a mythical based opinion. Now your opinion, no fact, but opinion you know the difference right? Is that Floyd is #1 best P4P... Again there is no facts of proving it is just an opinion. And, who is to say that you're wrong with that opinion? The only people who would disagree with your opinion is the one with a different opinion. But, who's to say that they're are wrong with their opinion? The P4P list is just to have fun in debating it. Because, you can ask 10 different people to give you their top 10 P4P list and every single one of them it will be different. There is really no right or wrong. If the TS thinks Martinez is the best P4P...Then so be it that is his opinion, you and I might disagree with him but he and I would disagree with your choice and you and him would disagree of my choice. Because, P4P is just a mythical based opinion rankings that mean nothing at all.

manny at 5? :lol1:

When you doing a P4P best fighters list for right now why does past count... And, if the past counts then is Hopkins the best P4P? In the last 3 years you can make a case for Martinez>Floyd. Martinez is on the list, just not in the top 5. PBF reigns supreme until he is beaten period.

There you go again with that NOVICE talk. A year does not mean sh*t on a P4P list. You are talking about a guy that had two fight this year. Yes he won them but so what. Sergio has not fought on the big stage yet against a big name in the sport. He beat two extremely flaud fighters with limited boxing skills. A YEAR DOES NOT count when it comes to P4P rankings. PBF, and Marquez have been on the list for a DECADE. SERGIO needs two or three more years of winning on the BIG STAGE against BIG NAMES to top the P4P list. When you doing a P4P best fighters list for right now why does past count... And, if the past counts then is Hopkins the best P4P? In the last 3 years you can make a case for Martinez>Floyd.

Who this year had a better year than Martinez? There you go again with that NOVICE talk. A year does not mean sh*t on a P4P list. You are talking about a guy that had two fight this year. Yes he won them but so what. Sergio has not fought on the big stage yet against a big name in the sport. He beat two extremely flaud fighters with limited boxing skills. A YEAR DOES NOT count when it comes to P4P rankings. PBF, and Marquez have been on the list for a DECADE. SERGIO needs two or three more years of winning on the BIG STAGE against BIG NAMES to top the P4P list.

Coming from a Pactard I take it as a compliment. PW and Kelly are very much one dementional fighters. They only fight one way. Movement and angles give them problems. Paul has zero defense and is extremely hittable. Kelly can only move in straight lines and he does not live clean. Think before you type nonsense you F'ing novice!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who this year had a better year than Martinez?

pac at 5? LOL! SOTO ????

Such a stupid post. Coming from a Pactard I take it as a compliment. PW and Kelly are very much one dementional fighters. They only fight one way. Movement and angles give them problems. Paul has zero defense and is extremely hittable. Kelly can only move in straight lines and he does not live clean. Think before you type nonsense you F'ing novice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sergio Williams #1 I don't think so. His biggest wins are against Paul and Kelly. Those are easy fights for anyone with any decent boxing skills. Sergio's resume is horrible! Such a stupid post.

I am not suprised that the TS put Pac at #5 on his list. I am just suprised that the TS included Pac. I expected the TS not to rank him at all.

1-Pacman 2-Money 3-Maravilla 4-Dinamita honorable mentions: Montiel, Donaire, Klitschko brothers.

Sergio Williams #1 I don't think so. His biggest wins are against Paul and Kelly. Those are easy fights for anyone with any decent boxing skills. Sergio's resume is horrible!

Here is mine. 1. Sergio Martinez 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 3. Manny Pacquiao 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 6. Wladimir Klitschko 7. Vitali Klitschko 8. Felix Sturm 9. Andre Ward 10. Fernando Montiel Good list except for i dont know who the #5 fighter is and i think Humberto Soto is better than Felix Sturm!!

IMO Montiel is a better fighter than Pacquiao!! More technical and better all around fighter. Montiel goes anywhere to fight good opponents not hand picked, flat footed fighters and at catch weights!! This list is just IMO. I respect other lists!! Im not a Flomo!! But floyd MAyweather is a much better fighter than everyone on my list!! its a fact!! And me as a Mexican i see when a fighter is good dont incline my judgement based on my nationality!! If there was a better Mexican, white, black or asian fighter than Mayweather i would put him instead!! I agree with that, but I won't put him in the top 5 until he beats Donaire which honestly I don't see him doing. But this 1 of 2 fights that I wanna see next year and can't wait.