Juanma is a joke!

150k, yeah id say he is worth right about that much imo..... :rofl::rofl::rofl: Unified champ, rank in the top 2 in the division...Interesting. Wasn't Juanma going to get like a mili for that fight? So a 90-10 split was OK? How much was Luevano worth? What about Concepcion?

didnt he say he wanted the same amount of money rafa was getting or if not what juanma was getting? I don't think he knew what Rafa was getting. It was never mentioned prior that fight was 50/50 it was found after and that is why people were somewhat surprised that it was 50/50. I don't remember him saying that but he might of. I do know that Juanma tried to low ball offer him with the likes of what was it? 150k? :nonono:

Show me where it ever mentioned that Caba wanted 50/50. Why are we still talking about cab LOL GTFO

they said he brought nothing 2 table considering the ammount of money he was asking for. he was asking 4 the same ammount as juanma and they felt he wasnt worth it. Show me where it ever mentioned that Caba wanted 50/50.

Cab showed he couldn't compete against anyone half good when he lost to litzau - proves juanma to be right. Juanma has fought all the top guys of this division,aside from litzau,gamboa and chris so he is taking a break. Why dont you calm your ass down and learn what a break is. damn you cant even have a warm up or a break fight without these stupid fans bashing you,Man stfu already and be patient. The point of the TS is that he is fighting somebody who brings nothing to the table. So why fight somebody who brings even less to the table?

Cab showed he couldn't compete against anyone half good when he lost to litzau - proves juanma to be right. Juanma has fought all the top guys of this division,aside from litzau,gamboa and chris so he is taking a break. Why dont you calm your ass down and learn what a break is. damn you cant even have a warm up or a break fight without these stupid fans bashing you,Man stfu already and be patient.

Give the guy a break hes had tough fights the past years. Caballero would have eventually gotten a fight if he kept winning, but he dropped a big one to litzau. JuanMa and Gamboa are two amazing fighters, I'm counting down the days until they fight. Like who? His biggest win is Ponce. Outside of that its old, shot 118 pounders like Rafa, and Penalosa sandwiched in between the Lonchi's, Concepcions and mtagwas.

The thing is Lopez proves what every non-biased fan has been saying is right by fighting a guy who is worse than Caballero probably in reality. Look at the Dawson-Hopkins situation. He somewhat vindicated himself not fighting Chad to a certain extent by fighting the guy who beat Dawson in his backyard. If Lopez just keeps fighting bums and washed up fighters, the ducking he pulled on Caballero is just gonna hold more weight even after we saw Caballero lose to a C level fighter in Litzau.

I've been saying it all along, this guy isn't what he really is. Yes, one thing I really do like about him is that he tries to please his fans in a fight by doing some risks but he does cherry pick. I've been saying it all along, he ducked Cab. Even with this **** I know some of them will make excuses but I'm glad the TS had balls to admit it. Hopefully he doesn't turn it around like some of them did when he fought Lontchi and Mtwaga. It just shows that you have been a dim wit for a long time. Why dont you go talk alot of crap to Margacheato and see if he gives you a shot... :rofl:

Im not mad about him fighting a showcase fight in PR but im mad about him making a bull**** ***** ass excuse up not to fight Cab a guy who wasnt even that good. I have been to a few Juanma fights and always supported but this **** disgusts me. Caballero is elite level opposition for chump change he isn't an easy fight for chump change, Caba would have stood to gain while Juan Ma took all the risk which is why he said Celestino has to increase his stock, this is the same problems Williams had because nobody with anything to lose wanted to fight him, they were taking on basically an elite level fighter with non elite level pay, he wasn't known enough for them to HAVE TO fight him and they didn't.. Caballero is a threat no doubt but Juan Ma doesn't fear him, it's just why take 6 digits from Caballero when you can get 7 for Marquez, Gamboa, Vasquez etc? they all world class except the other guys bring in more money than Caballero does, Boxing is not just about hitting and not getting hit it's also about trying to get the most out of it as you can each time you lace up those gloves, this is why they fight so hard because they want to become bigger and at this point for Juan Ma a Celestino Caballero fight is a step back not fourth, he's better off going for Gamboa who would bring out a crowd

Checked his fights out on youtube...he looks pretty good.:boxing: Hes very well schooled, and does good performances, and has a load of nasty knockouts, but no hype around him since he is with Miguel Cotto promotions. Next year he should become a champion.

Give the guy a break hes had tough fights the past years. Caballero would have eventually gotten a fight if he kept winning, but he dropped a big one to litzau. JuanMa and Gamboa are two amazing fighters, I'm counting down the days until they fight. The point of the TS is don't say "who is Caballero" "he is a nobody" "he brings nothing to the table" but then turn around and fight the Lontchi, Mtagwa, and Kennedy of the worlds. I'm with you that he has had tough fights, deserves a pass here. Lets see what he does after this before we really criticize him. But, lets not get it twisted he avoided Caballero...Is the truth he ducked Caba and gave lame excuses. But, I like Juanma and I'm a fan but just I'm just calling it like it is.

Give the guy a break hes had tough fights the past years. Caballero would have eventually gotten a fight if he kept winning, but he dropped a big one to litzau. JuanMa and Gamboa are two amazing fighters, I'm counting down the days until they fight.

All this shiet about Caballero show me how ignorant and lack of boxing knowledge the most of the people that comment in this forum. Caballero is nobody why Juanma has to fight him. Now he need to fight every single bum that call his name. Did you know how many people been calling Manny's name? Juanma coming of a tough year and i believe that is the best decision . An easy fight and after that go for the rest of the big name in his division. You right Caba is a nobody, he was just unified champion and ranked in the top 2 at 122 during the same time Juanma was there. Exactly he is a nobody an easy fight. Who is Juanma fighting next again?

I've been saying it all along, this guy isn't what he really is. Yes, one thing I really do like about him is that he tries to please his fans in a fight by doing some risks but he does cherry pick. I've been saying it all along, he ducked Cab. Even with this **** I know some of them will make excuses but I'm glad the TS had balls to admit it. Hopefully he doesn't turn it around like some of them did when he fought Lontchi and Mtwaga. All this shiet about Caballero show me how ignorant and lack of boxing knowledge the most of the people that comment in this forum. Caballero is nobody why Juanma has to fight him. Now he need to fight every single bum that call his name. Did you know how many people been calling Manny's name? Juanma coming of a tough year and i believe that is the best decision . An easy fight and after that go for the rest of the big name in his division.

Seriously! Im so tired of hearing about this Cabellero guy.....If everyone that talked crap would get a shot..Mayorga would have a record of most title shots in the history of boxing. very true..

gamboa aint tied up at the moment. how about rojas? The WBA ordered Gamboa-John, and that fight has to be made. TR will make that fight first. Rojas is coming off an injury (and surgery IIRC). I believe Rojas and his team said they want a soft tune up before jumping back into the mix, in an article on here a while back.

i hate this match up as well.......................................but Caballero still aint sh1te Seriously! Im so tired of hearing about this Cabellero guy.....If everyone that talked crap would get a shot..Mayorga would have a record of most title shots in the history of boxing.

Im sorry but saying that Cab brings nothing to the table and then fighting Kennedy makes him a clown. Im not saying he isnt talented or hasnt fought decent comp but this whole situation tarnishes his legacy. Was'nt that answered in Cabas last fight? He brought nothing to the table Cabas the clown....:fest30:

Luis Cruz future pound for pound king !! http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1389680/luis-cruz-o.gif Checked his fights out on youtube...he looks pretty good.:boxing: