he fought a joke in david diaz, he fought a weight drained del a hoya that any one would of beaten that night, he beat a out of shape coked out vegas'd out ricky hatton that any one would of beaten that night, he beat a SHOT cotto and lets be realistic the cotto that fought even alfonso gomez woulda gaven pac alot more trouble plus trainer issues, plain and simple cotto was slower and slower reflexes and less power since margarito fight, cottos shot, he beat a role playing josh clottey who covered up all night and it was basically 12 rnds of punching a moving heavy bag, and he beat a SHOT margarito who was a standing mummy , marg is shot, he had no bounce, no speed, no movement in hips and upstairs. SO WHO HAS PAC BEATEN REALLY I MEAN I KNOW U LOVEEE HIM BUT DONT BE IN DENIAL WHO HAS HE BEATEN? THE LAST GOOD GUY WHO WASNT SHOT OR WEIGHT DRAINED WAS JMM AND WE SAW HOW THAT FIGHT WENT. SO AGAIN I SAY WHY R U DOGGING THE MOSLEY FIGHT? MOSLEY DOMINATED MARG WHEN HE WAS STILL GOOD, MOSLEY IS THE ONE WHO ENDED MARG. HE ROCKED FMJ TWICE AND LETS BE HONEST FMJ IS SUPERIOR TO MOSLEY AND PAC. HE DOMINATED A WAY BIGGER MORA WHO WAS RUNNING ALL NIGHT AND DIDNT GAS AGAINST MORA AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL. SO AGAIN I SAY MOSLEY IS NOT SHOT EVEN AT 39 CUZ MARG,COTTO AND OLDH R ALL YOUNGER THEN MOSLEY AND THERE ALL SHOT. MOSLEY WILL TRAIN HARD, AND I PROMISEEEEEEEEEE U HE WILL SHOCK THE WORLD. GUYS THAT COME AT MOSLEY, SHORTER, WOW ITS TAILOR MADE FOR MOSLEY . I CAN JUST SEE MOSLEY TAGGGGGING HIM WITH OVER HAND RIGHTS, BODY SHOTS. AGAIN I WILL SAY WHO HAS PAC FOUGHT? MOSLEY MAY NOT WIN BUT PLEASE DONT DOG THE FIGHT BUT SAY COTTO, MARG AND CLOTTEY WERE NOT BORING FIGHTS? DONT U WANT PAC TO HAVE A CHALLENGE? WOWWWWW U PAC NUT HUGGERS R IN DENIAL
people seem to have forgotten that Pac was a super featherweight only two fights before DLH. was climbing to Welter for the first time & was expected to fight a guy that may have rehydrated to 160+
Yes a terrible performance against Steve Forbes and fighting at a weight he hasn't fought in ages is destined for disaster. Even Roach said he saw IV marks @ the weigh in, he was a zombie.
I think the real reason pac is fighting shane is that he regrets being a coward before we all know that shane mosley came to the gym twice and both times camp pacquaio said NO to the fight,now I think pac wants to build his self esteem up by fighting mosley.
Just let it go pac,floyd took the last of him he's done,now you're fighting the 3rd left over of floyd..that's something that should make you feel bad..fighting old shot mosley won't do anything for you now son.
I am sick of hearing crap like this from people who can't stand to give him any credit at all.
Can people really not just accept that he's a great fighter? let me say this, I am not here to defend everything he does, especially his most recent choice of opponent but the fact is he is a great fighter. Not one who does everything right nor everything wrong.
Truth is he has not done everything perfectly and yes, Oscar was compromised but you know what? He agreed to the weight. He's a big boy, he should have known what he was getting himself into and he still didn't get it done against Pac who totally out boxed him that night.
He is better than Hatton on any night, Ever.
Diaz is a lousy opponent, but show me someone with no padding on their record.
Cotto was a great win, he was competitive and gave Pac a lot of trouble early. Manny just ended up getting through and landed some great stuff Cotto couldn't see coming.
Clottey was not a very good choice on paper and a worse one in reality and Margarito was a terrible choice, perfect style for Pac who did nothing recently to earn that fight as well but some blame has to go to Bob Arum for those disgraceful in-house fund raisers as well as Pac.
Mosley hasn't won a fight in Two years. He quit against Floyd when things didn't go his way and couldn't beat Mora who he woud have handled easily if he were yonger.
But lets not forget before we make ecuses for all his opponents that He wiped them all out.
As I have said, Manny is not perfect but you can not deny he is not one hell of a fighter.
At this point, it's a comparison of what's better, Manny fighting questionable opponents or Floyd being on "vacation".
Oh, and one more thing: My god man, they're called paragraphs, use them.
Stupid flomo idiots never cease to amaze me. They want it
both ways. It's the usual flomo thread that denigrates all of Pac's
opponents. Hate to repeat it but what the heck is the OST demand
for if he is really that weak? Fukking idiots.
Whether you like it or not ALL of Pacman's 6 Opponents have credentials they won't be Champion if they're bums!
Pacman's opponent even boasted of beating Pacman! The Foremost of which is Hatton, even his Trainer Mayweather SR., has insulted and mocked Pacman & Roach!
You got the old man Mayweather Sr, who keep on lambasting Pacman outside the ring through media, because his fighter and his son can't beat up Pacman inside the Ring!
You can't blame Clottey if he covers up his face because he doesn't want to have bloody and disfigured face (just as what happend to the other opponents of Pacman)!
Listen to Pacman' opponent after the fight, They all one in saying that they can't handle Pacman' SPEED!
BWAA aren't that stupid to award Pacman the Fighter of the Decade and the Fighter of the Year, If Pacman opponents are nothing but bums!
since 2006 mannys record reads,morales,solis,barrera,marquez,diaz,oscar,hatton,cotto, clottey,margarito and now mosley.u may be right in that some of those were coming off of a loss or were on the slide,but up until diaz he was at super feather.in those next 5 fights hes gone thru 3 weight divisions. in july 2007 when the fearsome,avoided welterweight antonio margarito who fought paul williams,whilst manny was fighting barrera at super feather,if someone told you that in 3 years time manny would not only fight him but beat him to a pulp you'd have said they were mad.in the future people will look back on his record and be impressed by the names one after another and not care about them being weight drained,coming off a loss etc
Diaz was a tuneup, nobody cares
DLH was supposed to be a mismatch...turns out it was :laugh:
Hatton was lineal champ and got owned in 2 rounds
Cotto was a beautiful ass kicking
Clottey was Pac's mandatory and got punked into not trying
Tony was Pac's toughest test since JMM 2, 17 lbs heavier
Pac's recent resume is great, but not the Mosley fight
Wow, first of all let me start out by saying your a idiot. That entire article was full of nothing but excuses. Not one single fact. It was all YOUR opinion, all of it was subjective information. Pac must have really been tugging on your mind tonight for you to take the time to write that thread.
havent got time to read what the TS wrote but all i can say is floyd doesnt want to fight that he went on vacation after making unnecessary demands and when finally his demands were met. FLOYD doesnt want to fight, live with it flomo.
so because oldh was favored means what? NOTHING. he was weight drained , he was 144 b4 the fight and 146 fight time. yahhhhhhhhh nothings wrong.
you fail to realize a point that shoots your views all full of holes. DLH signed the contract, he agreed to fight pacquiao on pacquiao's terms, hence he was trying to fight pacquiao at pacquiao's game, there was no surprise or trickery, DLH knew full well all that he gave consent to, all the stipulations, etc.
so no one can really cry about it because it was no surprise, the fight was ultimately won in the negotiations. THATS HOW BOXING WORKS......... on any and all levels.....
you have swiss cheese for an argument.....
Wall of Text = /nothanks
serious, right................
That's why DLH was favored to win, is it?
people seem to have forgotten that Pac was a super featherweight only two fights before DLH. was climbing to Welter for the first time & was expected to fight a guy that may have rehydrated to 160+
pick apart /? it was completely obvious that oldh,cotto,hatton and marg were not the same fighters by any means
That's why DLH was favored to win, is it?
casual and straight lef
casual and straightleft are both in denial. yah lemme guess all those guys he beat were in there prime and not shot? poor guys in denial . so sad dude.
he fought a joke in david diaz, he fought a weight drained del a hoya that any one would of beaten that night, he beat a out of shape coked out vegas'd out ricky hatton that any one would of beaten that night, he beat a SHOT cotto and lets be realistic the cotto that fought even alfonso gomez woulda gaven pac alot more trouble plus trainer issues, plain and simple cotto was slower and slower reflexes and less power since margarito fight, cottos shot, he beat a role playing josh clottey who covered up all night and it was basically 12 rnds of punching a moving heavy bag, and he beat a SHOT margarito who was a standing mummy , marg is shot, he had no bounce, no speed, no movement in hips and upstairs. SO WHO HAS PAC BEATEN REALLY I MEAN I KNOW U LOVEEE HIM BUT DONT BE IN DENIAL WHO HAS HE BEATEN? THE LAST GOOD GUY WHO WASNT SHOT OR WEIGHT DRAINED WAS JMM AND WE SAW HOW THAT FIGHT WENT. SO AGAIN I SAY WHY R U DOGGING THE MOSLEY FIGHT? MOSLEY DOMINATED MARG WHEN HE WAS STILL GOOD, MOSLEY IS THE ONE WHO ENDED MARG. HE ROCKED FMJ TWICE AND LETS BE HONEST FMJ IS SUPERIOR TO MOSLEY AND PAC. HE DOMINATED A WAY BIGGER MORA WHO WAS RUNNING ALL NIGHT AND DIDNT GAS AGAINST MORA AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL. SO AGAIN I SAY MOSLEY IS NOT SHOT EVEN AT 39 CUZ MARG,COTTO AND OLDH R ALL YOUNGER THEN MOSLEY AND THERE ALL SHOT. MOSLEY WILL TRAIN HARD, AND I PROMISEEEEEEEEEE U HE WILL SHOCK THE WORLD. GUYS THAT COME AT MOSLEY, SHORTER, WOW ITS TAILOR MADE FOR MOSLEY . I CAN JUST SEE MOSLEY TAGGGGGING HIM WITH OVER HAND RIGHTS, BODY SHOTS. AGAIN I WILL SAY WHO HAS PAC FOUGHT? MOSLEY MAY NOT WIN BUT PLEASE DONT DOG THE FIGHT BUT SAY COTTO, MARG AND CLOTTEY WERE NOT BORING FIGHTS? DONT U WANT PAC TO HAVE A CHALLENGE? WOWWWWW U PAC NUT HUGGERS R IN DENIAL
Another flomo ALT? You are a flomo! /thread