Tarver RUINED Jones ..it wasnt the weight...

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Roy's body was clearly not the same. If you look at him you can clearly see it. Tarver was a good fighter who was the rigth place at the right time witht he right motivation. This fight had so much depth to it....You had a guy in Jones who couldnt enjoy his biggest win (Heavyweight Championship) Tarver harrasses him in the postfight press conference.....Roy wants to fight Mike or Evander those fights fall through and he keeps the date and fights Tarver....the prefight interview showed a terrible looking Jones with Larry Merchant....he barely wins a decision but did not show any of the signature flash and his only clean punches were shots to the body....In the rematch Jones pressed the action but he looked soft in the body but still did not show the signature handspeed and reflexes.....The Tarver punch was not a lucky punch he attempted to throw that punch about seven times in the fight...The thought was to sling with the gunslinger Tarver's was straighter and shorter....The legend got knocked out and hasn't been the same since. Tarver deserves credit for ruining Jones to an extent but he didn't get prime Jones but you know what he was the first to really get the best of Roy ever. Griffin and Mc Callum frustrated him but with Tarver we saw the human version of Roy. Prime Roy Toys with Tarver all the way to a Ud. The same way Dawson didGood post. Tarver more or less shocked us. Tarver didn't ruin Jones. The move up and down from heavy debilitated his body, and at age 34 fighting or a hw title, and age 35 defending and beating Tarver should have been enough...

I belive the weight played a big part. The cut back down to 175lb, was just a incredible struggle for Roy. Especailly when he didn't nearly any fat on him at HW. Muscle is so much harder to cut than fat. Roy's body had been completey zapped. He was never the same fighter after the Ruiz fight. Credit to Tarver, but I always thought he certainly got Roy Jones Jr at the right time.

LOL, u know nothing of boxing

Jones was 35 when he beat and lost to Tarver. Tarver didn't ruin anyone...

Jones was a lot sharper in the rematch than he was in the first bout but there were clear signs that he was no longer the same fighter. For starters, his legs were completely gone. He stood flat-footed right in front of a big, long powerful lefty like Tarver. He didn't even do that against Richard Hall. Second, Antonio Tarver is pretty effin good. And to the idiot who pointed out Tarver was 35 as well...yeah, except he had stopped boxing for many years and came into the Jones fights with, what, 20 fights under his belt? Logic helps. I'd agree with that. RJJ was slipping and Tarver pushed him off that cliff.

Roy's body was clearly not the same. If you look at him you can clearly see it. Tarver was a good fighter who was the rigth place at the right time witht he right motivation. This fight had so much depth to it....You had a guy in Jones who couldnt enjoy his biggest win (Heavyweight Championship) Tarver harrasses him in the postfight press conference.....Roy wants to fight Mike or Evander those fights fall through and he keeps the date and fights Tarver....the prefight interview showed a terrible looking Jones with Larry Merchant....he barely wins a decision but did not show any of the signature flash and his only clean punches were shots to the body....In the rematch Jones pressed the action but he looked soft in the body but still did not show the signature handspeed and reflexes.....The Tarver punch was not a lucky punch he attempted to throw that punch about seven times in the fight...The thought was to sling with the gunslinger Tarver's was straighter and shorter....The legend got knocked out and hasn't been the same since. Tarver deserves credit for ruining Jones to an extent but he didn't get prime Jones but you know what he was the first to really get the best of Roy ever. Griffin and Mc Callum frustrated him but with Tarver we saw the human version of Roy. Prime Roy Toys with Tarver all the way to a Ud. The same way Dawson did

Roy couldn't deal with Tarver's southpaw jab, he could get in but couldn't do so safely. Tarver also had his head well defended which reduced Roy to single body shots. It was a good gameplan, Tarver made Roy look pedestrian and waited for his ego to put him in a dangerous position where he could land a big shot. He beat tall southpaws with jabs. That wasn't an issue.

Go ahead and keep telling yourself Jones was anything close to the same fighter after moving back down to heavyweight, we know you are all just hating on the man. It was so obvious his legs were gone, his reflexes were gone, and his speed was suffering. Tarver is so incredibly overrated off those fights it pisses me off. Jones beat guys twice Tarver's ability, with ease. He made a career being called a cherry picker beating guys the level of Tarver.

Roy couldn't deal with Tarver's southpaw jab, he could get in but couldn't do so safely. Tarver also had his head well defended which reduced Roy to single body shots. It was a good gameplan, Tarver made Roy look pedestrian and waited for his ego to put him in a dangerous position where he could land a big shot.

uh, a drained roy with no legs and diminished reflexes still managed to beat tarver the first time, what are you talking about? he was a completely different fighter when he went down in weight. age was also catching up to him. you can't deny this. They can...and will.

Roy is heavily overated imo. It's like nobody can beat Prime Roy, yet he was fighting cans. Once Roy stepped up he supposedly was shot after gaining a couple of losses. No doubt Roy was dynamite in his prime but Tarver was just all wrong for him, Period. uh, a drained roy with no legs and diminished reflexes still managed to beat tarver the first time, what are you talking about? he was a completely different fighter when he went down in weight. age was also catching up to him. you can't deny this.

People say he ain't fight nobody, he just made 'em look like nobody.... They were bums, but i dont think Tarver was anything special. If Jones had beaten him with ease, Tarver would be called a bum also. Tarver didnt beat anyone that great either, yet he suddenly 'exposed' Roy Jones? Maybe Jones was just shiit after HW.

yet he was fighting cans. People say he ain't fight nobody, he just made 'em look like nobody....

Roy is heavily overated imo. It's like nobody can beat Prime Roy, yet he was fighting cans. Once Roy stepped up he supposedly was shot after gaining a couple of losses. No doubt Roy was dynamite in his prime but Tarver was just all wrong for him, Period.

Jones was a lot sharper in the rematch than he was in the first bout but there were clear signs that he was no longer the same fighter. For starters, his legs were completely gone. He stood flat-footed right in front of a big, long powerful lefty like Tarver. He didn't even do that against Richard Hall. Second, Antonio Tarver is pretty effin good. And to the idiot who pointed out Tarver was 35 as well...yeah, except he had stopped boxing for many years and came into the Jones fights with, what, 20 fights under his belt? Logic helps.

I think its suspect that after moving up and down from HW, Jones started getting KTFO by mediocre punchers. Tarver wasnt a great one punch KO artist, and Jones chin was never that bad before. It wasnt even a huge punch that sent him down. I gotta say, i think Jones wasnt the same after HW. real talk right here.

I think its suspect that after moving up and down from HW, Jones started getting KTFO by mediocre punchers. Tarver wasnt a great one punch KO artist, and Jones chin was never that bad before. It wasnt even a huge punch that sent him down. I gotta say, i think Jones wasnt the same after HW.

Prime Roy would shít on Tarver. Fúcking Tarver. Eric Harding beat that cúnt. Sour grapes over Tarver beating Jones? Hell yes.

haha, I remember when tarver punched the camera right after, overexcited mf'r.