Pacquiao's reaction when Zahir beat Morales

If you are truly a lifetime boxing fan, you would realize that Manny does deserve credit. You don't have to give it to him for all the fights but at least for some, it is warranted. That's if you really love the sport. . I give him credit for being the one of the most exciting fighter in the sport, But that's only due to great matchmaking and timing. However if he faces and beats one the the new young guns (Berto, Bradley or Alexander) I would give him credit for anyone of those fights. If he beats Mosley that would be cool. But I got a feeling Mosley will be ARUM and ROACH's first mistake. He needs to faces JMM again and get a clear victory(JMM beat him twice so far). Face and beat PBF, Then I'll will become a PACTARD myself. All of these are good fights against opponents that are still in good physical and mental health. He is a good fighter, VERY entertaining, Extremely exciting. I'm not just buying this HYPE job that's going on with him right now by the media and novice boxing fans.

what guys? cotto and margirito? those the only 2 names and for a fact floyd would fought them but arum wouldnt give him the money he felt he deserved. so he would go on and make even more money than he asked arum for. and arum didnt want cotto nowhere near floyd period. it wasnt until floyd bought his contract out and was chasing oscar did arum try to really force the issue with margirito. because months before that floyd was the best fighter he seen(yeah just like he says with manny) up until floyd left then he became a coward and all that nonsense. yall can keep going ahead and believing what yall want to believe but that dont change facts Facts. Manny fought Cotto and Margarito, and made money doing so. Floyd refused to fight them because he said they wouldn't make him any money. We don't have to change any facts. They're already set in stone. Floyd avoided them, Manny beat them down.

Thats why I can't and won't give PACROID any credit for his last 6 victories. This is what great matchmaking can do for your career. ARUM and Roach are masters at this. I am a lifetime boxing fan and I am not fooled this easy. PACTARDS are new to this boxing thing so they don't know any better. That's why they come here a start stupid threads and post ignorant comments. If you are truly a lifetime boxing fan, you would realize that Manny does deserve credit. You don't have to give it to him for all the fights but at least for some, it is warranted. That's if you really love the sport. .

don't show the shaw and pac incident

This Raheem vs Manny is a joke. Just go back and you would know what the truth is. - Manny had a 1-1 record at 130 before he rematched Morales .... YET you guys wanted him to fight at 135 against Raheem? - Morales lost at 135 against a type of fighter that he wasn't used to fighting. - For the haters: So you mean to say, Manny was supposed to face Raheem because he beat Morales BUT you also said that Morales was shot, right? So then what accomplishments does Raheem really have if you discredit this win due to Morales being shot? You can't have it both ways!!! - Manny fought at 130 for several more years. - Manny had lost the 1st fight against the great Morales. It was an excellent fight that people still talk about THEREFORE the 2nd fight was a NO BRAINER!!! EVERYONE wanted to see a rematch. - Who would be crazy enough to miss an opportunity to revenge their loss against the great and exciting Morales and instead fight a no-name, no money, no excitement Raheem? - When Manny fought Morales the 2nd time, Morales was winning the fight at about the 6th round and the HBO commentators were saying Manny is too small and Morales is too big for Manny. - Years later, Manny faced a title holder at 135 the first time he moved up while Raheem lost another fight. - When Manny did get to 135, he faced someone else that Morales had lost to at 135 and who actually had a title. - For the sake of argument, imagine Manny facing and beating Raheem and not facing Morales and Morales continued and did well? Does Marquez ring a bell? Manny haters are calling Manny a coward against a guy who did well but never beat Manny. Imagine what they would say about Manny not wanting to revenge Morales? Coward and ducking wouldn't even come close to what the Manny haters would use to describe Manny.

i have no problem with him fighting morales in the rematch. because the first fight was good as hell and who didnt want to see a rematch? my problem is the world knew morales could barely make 135 was comming off a lose everytime he fought manny and was winding down. so it showed the level of competition that manny and arum were chasing. but his fans ont see that. whatever manny does is gold. they cant just say yeah manny fights hard put on good matches they make it seem like he killed everyone in their prime and fought the best. which is bull****. he fought good names and piggybacked on the end of their careers. Of manny last 5 years of manny 12 opponents how manny fought again after manny and were as successful? and how many of them were comming off a lose or a big defeat before or after they fought manny? majority of them were done and even freddy roach talks about it. like i dont get it. Thats why I can't and won't give PACROID any credit for his last 6 victories. This is what great matchmaking can do for your career. ARUM and Roach are masters at this. I am a lifetime boxing fan and I am not fooled this easy. PACTARDS are new to this boxing thing so they don't know any better. That's why they come here a start stupid threads and post ignorant comments.

All Raheem did was throw a punch and run in the fight agaisnt Morales. Raheem even hurt Morales but didn't go after him. Yes Raheem won the fight but Morales did not get a beat down. As far as the rematch, even and before the Raheem fight, there was a demand for it. Most of you weren't even complaining about the rematch after Morales lost to Raheem. Raheem fight was at lightweight and Pac just moved up that year to jr. lightweight.

lol typical arum

If you want to criticize Pac, he gives good reason with the catchweight thing presently. The Raheem thing is bollocks though. Nobody gave a damn that he beat Morales and there was 0 demand for Pac to challenge him. i have no problem with him fighting morales in the rematch. because the first fight was good as hell and who didnt want to see a rematch? my problem is the world knew morales could barely make 135 was comming off a lose everytime he fought manny and was winding down. so it showed the level of competition that manny and arum were chasing. but his fans ont see that. whatever manny does is gold. they cant just say yeah manny fights hard put on good matches they make it seem like he killed everyone in their prime and fought the best. which is bull****. he fought good names and piggybacked on the end of their careers. Of manny last 5 years of manny 12 opponents how manny fought again after manny and were as successful? and how many of them were comming off a lose or a big defeat before or after they fought manny? majority of them were done and even freddy roach talks about it. like i dont get it.

I have two thing to say about this. -The fight was already made -If Raheem wanted a shot, he shouldn't have lost his next fight to Freitas and proceed to camp out in my hometown (Tulsa) fighting bums. He was back fighting a bum while I was at the casino a few months ago and I didn't even bother to watch. Guy got lucky, Morales was shot. That's all the needs to be said.

Pac fought the guys Floyd wouldn't though, and beating them in spectacular fashion. So again, why the sudden change in attitude about "boxing is a business"? what guys? cotto and margirito? those the only 2 names and for a fact floyd would fought them but arum wouldnt give him the money he felt he deserved. so he would go on and make even more money than he asked arum for. and arum didnt want cotto nowhere near floyd period. it wasnt until floyd bought his contract out and was chasing oscar did arum try to really force the issue with margirito. because months before that floyd was the best fighter he seen(yeah just like he says with manny) up until floyd left then he became a coward and all that nonsense. yall can keep going ahead and believing what yall want to believe but that dont change facts

If you want to criticize Pac, he gives good reason with the catchweight thing presently. The Raheem thing is bollocks though. Nobody gave a damn that he beat Morales and there was 0 demand for Pac to challenge him.

just like pacquiao-morales. in fact they fought a tuneup on the same card to set up their fight. except i don't think either fight was signed. it's just judah-may and pac-morales had already come to terms. you dont think which means your not sure. which means you dont know wtf your talking about. floyd mayweather was with top rank and the fight was signed with judah already with HBO noway anyone in the world thought boldimeir would beat judah. and sicne the fight was set in stone floyd still had to sell the fight as credible and go on to still fight and beat boldimeir after he bought out his contract. when your trying to dispute something go with the facts dont use I think because thats not credible kid

you do know that even if morales won against raheem that the fight was still gonna be at 130 right? morales just wanted to try 135. lmfao these clowns talking so much but wasn't even following boxing back then. morales , at the time , was the bigger star than pacquiao , nitwits. pacquiao had to concede to morales demands. it wasn't until after the 3rd fight that pacquiao had leverage over morales. wasnt following boxing backthen? mother****er I was competing in national tournys back then. **** outta here. my point was that its no excuse why he didnt fight raheem over morales besides money and revenge. not because of weight. **** outta here fatboy

Kirby;9801798']What happened to "The Peoples Champion"? In the past 5 years, hes 12-0 with 7 KOs. Pretty entertaining for the people. So, again I ask, why is it not ok for Pacquiao to fight for his best monetary interests?

What I don't understand is the clamor for a Pac-Zahir was only given now. The only issue for the rematch not happening then was that interest was lessened since Morales lost. Scribes were even asking for a Morales-Zahir rematch just so Morales stock will increase and also to see where was Morales now in terms of boxing mileage. I cannot recall any news then asking for a Pac-Zahir. If so, can anyone point to a source. This Zahir hype, IMO, was just unfairly brought out by the slick AA argument. Nothing more than that really.

Oh wait. That's what happens to Pacquiao only. Here is a thread about Pac cherry picking a guy three years ago, but Marquez is going to fight the same guy four years later and we won't hear a peep. No boycott, no *****ing. People are so furious about Pac fighting Mosley, but Morales makes Shane look like Saul Alvarez. Is Marquez a top draw? According to you Pactards he isn't. So why do you care who he fights? Unless it's Pacquiao, you shouldn't be talking about Marquez.

What happened to "The Peoples Champion"?

I can't imagine the rage that will be voiced when JMM fights this same Eric Morales four years later. People are going to shred Marquez and wonder why he isn't fighting one of the "young lions" at 140. I really feel sorry for him. Oh wait. That's what happens to Pacquiao only. Here is a thread about Pac cherry picking a guy three years ago, but Marquez is going to fight the same guy four years later and we won't hear a peep. No boycott, no *****ing. People are so furious about Pac fighting Mosley, but Morales makes Shane look like Saul Alvarez.

Tell me why its not ok for Pacquiao to fight for his best monetary interests. "This is a business and fighters need to look out for themselves because the fans aren't going to, I don't blame any fighter for going for the money". - random internet posters 2006-2010. anyone care to answer?