Would you consider Shane Mosley an ATG?

far from ATG but definitely a Hall of Famer.

Not for me. Good fighter, HOF perhaps but not ATG.

HOF yes and still questionable due to the whole balco incident

All Time Great? no... Hall of Fame? absolutely...

Naw Hes not an ATG imo. If he had beat Forrest, Winky, Cotto, Mayweather then yea.

im a big mosley fan but he's not an ATG, just a HOF'er. if he had beaten forrest, wright (he was supposed to fight trinidad if victorious), tito, and cotto i would probably have him in the top 25 all-time.

I wonder how many pac fans have changed there mind since he is suppose to fight him now

Heh probably, forget the fact that he beat 13 or so Hofers and all of his achievements, he doesn't look impressive while playfully sparring with an old favourite of his therefor he must suck. what's those gloves weight? 30 oz?

I think he is top 40 - 50 ATG.

im pretty sure he has no fukn clue. that's how all the guys tunney fought looked to him Heh probably, forget the fact that he beat 13 or so Hofers and all of his achievements, he doesn't look impressive while playfully sparring with an old favourite of his therefor he must suck.

No cuz your analogy suck my analogy that Berto could not have beaten Margarito that night is better. Lets look at the top 10 fighters. You're telling me that every single one of these fighters would have beaten Margarito that night. Considering the cheap scale, the back injury or whatever it was, and throw everything consideration. Cotto? I say no cuz it would of been to soon from the first fight that he would not be physically nor mentally ready. Clottey? Maybe Quintana? No Pacquiao? Of course Judah? No Collazo? i don't think so Berto? I say Hlatswayo? Hell no Besides Mosley and Pacquiao who else would you say would have beaten Margarito that night let alone KO him? None of these fighters besides Pacmonster would have beat Marga's..Oh and Berto would be ktfo if he ever grows a pair and fights Marga's..Berto would not even fight Marga's right now..

I would say yes,he would be somewhere in the top 100 like around the 80's in my book...

Pretty easily. :grill: you're probably faster that pep too

You know that was just him playfully sparring with an old Jack O'Brien right ?, there's footage of him out there vs Tunney, Flowers and 1 or 2 others and he supposedly resembles a prime Duran. im pretty sure he has no fukn clue. that's how all the guys tunney fought looked to him

Mosley is a Hofer no doubt, if you think he's an ATG though you have to have pretty low standards.

I can whoop Greb. You know that was just him playfully sparring with an old Jack O'Brien right ?, there's footage of him out there vs Tunney, Flowers and 1 or 2 others and he supposedly resembles a prime Duran.

No cuz your analogy suck my analogy that Berto could not have beaten Margarito that night is better. Lets look at the top 10 fighters. You're telling me that every single one of these fighters would have beaten Margarito that night. Considering the cheap scale, the back injury or whatever it was, and throw everything consideration. Cotto? I say no cuz it would of been to soon from the first fight that he would not be physically nor mentally ready. Clottey? Maybe Quintana? No Pacquiao? Of course Judah? No Collazo? i don't think so Berto? I say Hlatswayo? Hell no Besides Mosley and Pacquiao who else would you say would have beaten Margarito that night let alone KO him? gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! :pat: :burnup: :why:

Top 30 atg

I can whoop Greb. really? You can whoop everyone greb whooped as well then I presume.

God damn man, are you dense? Its a damn analogy. Bottom line is that variables matter. You can't just look at that fight and pretend none of the outside factors didn't matter. No cuz your analogy suck my analogy that Berto could not have beaten Margarito that night is better. Lets look at the top 10 fighters. You're telling me that every single one of these fighters would have beaten Margarito that night. Considering the cheap scale, the back injury or whatever it was, and throw everything consideration. Cotto? I say no cuz it would of been to soon from the first fight that he would not be physically nor mentally ready. Clottey? Maybe Quintana? No Pacquiao? Of course Judah? No Collazo? i don't think so Berto? I say Hlatswayo? Hell no Besides Mosley and Pacquiao who else would you say would have beaten Margarito that night let alone KO him?