Valero is dead! Dead man couldn't fight;
But if its only pure imagination or myth, he could KO Khan late in the rounds;
Khan will use his speed in the early rounds to avoid the bombs of Valero!
Hilarious post.
But for real. Can you imagine Maidana vs. Valero? Fuck "someone's getting knocked out", someone's getting killed.! :cotdamn: :boxing:
It's tough to argue against Maidana having probably the best combination of punching power and chin (crown vacated by Margarito when Mosley crumpled him) around today. But like I was saying earlier, Valero didn't 100% always press to trade a million shots. I think his superior speed and underrated boxing ability which he didn't mind using if need be (Mosquera fight, latter part of DeMarco) to go along with the fact that he was a tough crazy sob too gets him a tough, late TKO.
I like the idea of Maidana versus the loser of Bradley-Alexander, and Khan facing the winner.
But I am more interested in the 118 guys right now tbh.
That is because that is the best division in all of boxing.
Margarito gave that fight away. He didn't start until the 6th round and gave the bum rounds he didn't deserve.
Watch the fight from round 6 on you pasty buttpirate.
You're really a pro at making excuses for the fighters you like. And calling the fighters who beat them bums. Really really good at it in fact. Commendable.
A "talentless hypejob" and "a ****ing bum" beat your main man Resto.
:lol1:
Swallow your pride, son.
Margarito gave that fight away. He didn't start until the 6th round and gave the bum rounds he didn't deserve.
Watch the fight from round 6 on you pasty buttpirate.
I like the idea of Maidana versus the loser of Bradley-Alexander, and Khan facing the winner.
But I am more interested in the 118 guys right now tbh.
That's the perfect plan because everyone wants to see that rematch.
Maidana will own Alexander after he loses to Bradley and hopefully by then he has a real trainer and a conditioning coach.
You even start fights in ROund by Round threads.
Most of us were on the same page here until you swerved.
:boxing:
errrrrrr.. why are you turning on me???
traitor.
I posted all along that Martinez had Williams locked in and would knock him out.
Anyone could see that Williams is a talentless hypejob that got by because of his connections to Haymon.
I dare you to call into my glorious show and try to justify Williams as a serious fighter.
He's a ****ing bum dude.
If you have the guts, I'll set it up and steam roll you in front of the entire world.
Coward.
I've never been high on Williams. But....talentless hype jobs do not get in the ring with a prime Antonio Margarito and last much less eke out a decision.
The Derranged dude is totally spot on. Your bias against and for some fighters make your posts go from borderline reasonable to unintelligent bias'd babble.
Gym wars can only be taken into consideration depending on when, where snd who.
For morales i have seen that clip, valero did great.
Obvious the oscar fight vs pac showed he was not the same.
A prime oscar kills valero.
Demarco is garbage so it doesnt matter what he tries.
The only thig in that fight that i got was valeros heart, he had a huge cut and kept coming.
Not sure if he did coke when training or not, but coke be efits you apparently for physicalmactivity...
In boxing, you have to look at context, and who someone faces. Valero went to japan and lived in a box to make money and wanted pacquaio badly and signed with arum.
Whether or not i know his realmstory or more, i am looking at his record and who he has fought. Joe calzaghe looks like a good puncher looking a his wins on record, but a lot wwre tko and early calls.
Soon as he stepped up, there were signs of weakness.
I am certain valero would lose to khan.
And if u do go by gym wars, than the two brothers gave him trouble becuase of lng reach and height. Forgot their names now but theres a documentary on it. Santiagos brother i think they are called
I'm going to keep this to as little trashing of you as possible.
Just go re-watch the DeMarco fight. Yes in and of itself it isn't going to be some clear indicator of elite status. But if all you see from that fight out of Valero is heart, then there's nothing more to say to you. The way Valero fought from the beginning rounds contrasted a lot from how he was fighting the middle-latter rounds. It's almost as if the cut woke him up and he adjusted great after that. Whereas he was reaching with his punches early, he was flowing from defense to offense...in fact getting DeMarco to reach out of position a ton better.
I don't know why you keep bringing coke up? Is that supposed to discredit him somehow? So are you saying that boxers should start doing some coke so they can go all crazy in the ring? Valero was a ****in' madman down to his core. Look how his life ended. Did he need 'coke' as a reason to look like a berserker in the ring? I don't think so.
Ah jeez, a perfectly ridiculous thread turns into Jack fighting with everyone.
Typical.
Let it go fellas.
All of youse.
:boxing:
they're all being mean to me for no reason.