Don Donatello
NowBoxing
December 10, 2010
It’s has been a long tradition in boxing that fighters use to avoid fighting a certain individual. Plain and simple, it’s called ducking. There are many ways to duck an opponent. But the slickest and most subversive way to duck an opponent is to first state that you want the fight to happen, then price yourself out of the fight by asking for an unreachable and ridiculous amount of money during contract negotiations to kill the fight.
Sugar Ray Leonard used this tactic to avoid a rematch with Thomas Hearns. In negotiations, Ray would ask for a monetary amount that was unreachable, essentially killing the deal. When Ray thought that Hearns had slowed down, he agreed to a rematch. But it took 9 long years after their first bout for the rematch to happen. In the rematch, Hearns knocked down Ray twice and beat Ray, but the judge gave Leonard a gift draw. Ray would later confess to Hearns that he had lost.
Roy Jones Jr. also used the same ploy to avoid a rematch against Bernard Hopkins. Roy would demand a very large amount of money every time negotiations came up for a rematch against Hopkins. All negotiations went no where due to Jones’ insistence for a very large pay check. When Jones was no longer an attraction 17 years later, he agreed to fight Hopkins in a rematch. Roy Jones Jr. lost the rematch this past April of 2010.
Now Marquez is using that ploy to avoid a third fight with Pacquiao. He would call Pacquiao out in the press and state that Pacquiao is avoiding him. In negotiations, Marquez would ask for an amount of money that would kill the fight. His latest demand is for $5 million dollars. He once asked for a 50% split. But everyone thought that it was so bizarre and utterly ridiculous that he dropped that idea. His latest demand of $5 million dollars is just as ridiculous.
Marquez does not really want to fight Pacquiao. What he is doing is just using Pacquiao’s name to market himself. It has worked wonderfully. With every fight, Pacquiao’s name is constantly mentioned to promote Marquez’s fights. There is not a Marquez fight where he does not mention that he beat Pacquiao twice.What foreign fighter at Marquez’s age has garnered more highly publicized fights here in the USA than Marquez? All because Marquez insist that he was robbed in his loss to Manny Pacquiao. In fact, Manny was the one who was robbed of a victory. In the first fight, during the first round, Marquez was knocked down three times. Two judges scored that round correctly by giving Pacquiao a 10-6 round. Judge Bert Clemens incorrectly only gave Pacquiao a 10-7 round. Clemens later confessed that he erred and should have given Pacquiao a 10-6 round. The corrected score would have given Pacquiao the win instead of the draw as the outcome of the fight.
Marquez has since fought five times in the span of two years after his second fight with Pacquiao. Marquez is marketing himself as the man who “ Beat Pacquiao Twice.” Of course Marquez would always invoke his selective amnesia and forget to mention that he was literally flatten on his back four times against Pacquiao; and he was also wobbled on numerous occasions too. In their two fights, Pacquiao never went down at all.
Marquez has proven that he is not an attraction. In his last PPV fight where Marquez was the headliner, his fight with Juan Diaz never even reached the 200K mark, Pacquiao’s last fight did 1.15 Million against Antonio Margarito. Pacquiao is the currently the cash cow of boxing, Marquez is one of many in line who want a fight with Pacquiao. So it does not make sense that Marquez is asking to be paid like he is a PPV attraction. Why is Marquez the one dictating at what weight the fight should take place. Why is Marquez still fighting at Lightweight if he wants to fight Pacquiao? It does not make sense at all. But it makes crystal clear sense if Marquez’s intent is to kill any fight with Pacquiao from happening. All the signs are there. It’s the same strategy that Roy Jones used to duck Bernard Hopkins. It’s the same strategy used by Sugar Ray Leonard to duck Thomas Hearns; price yourself out to avoid the fight.
Marquez knows that Pacquiao would pulverize him at 140 pounds and above. He saw a 165 pound Margarito get hammered into a pulp by Pacquiao. He saw how Pacquiao hunted down and finished off Miguel Cotto at 146. He must know that a Lightweight such as himself cannot possibly have a chance of beating Pacquiao. Even Floyd Mayweather will not fight Pacquiao. Marquez also knows why Mayweather won’t fight Pacquiao. It’s the same reason why Marquez himself is ducking Pacquiao. Still wondering what is that reason? Go ask Cotto, Joshua Clottey, and Margarito. After each one of their fight against Pacquiao, they ALL said that Manny Pacquiao is the best.
yo are you marquez in disguise? horrible posting. your overwhelmed by your idols obsession with pac.
if he had nothing to prove he wouldn't be dreaming about pac and following him to the philippines, creating shirts about pac, etc.
pac this, pac that. your definitely delusional. i personally like marquez and feel he needs to get the fight but he's pricing himself out.
if you were smart which you are showing you lack sense. if he can beat him like he says then beat his ass and take his thrown. once he's on top of the world marquez can make the demands and the money.
He wants to knock Pac out in the last fight to take it out of the hands of the corrupt judges that are paid off by arum.
Like Martinez did against Williams.
Actually no, JMM did not win twice against PAC.
next.
learn how to properly score a fight son.
Bunch of horse ****.
Marquez beat Pacquiao 2x already. Pacquiao can't deal with boxers so he's just gonna keep fighting come forward bangers and Arum stiffs.
The "article" is a bad joke. Diaz/JMM 2 wasn't even promoted, nor was it a fight that anyone wanted or asked for.
Pac/Margarito had a 24/7.
How much did Pac/David Diaz sell?
That's right, now stop lowballing Marquez and give him a third fight so he can knock you the **** out this time coward.
Actually no, JMM did not win twice against PAC.
next.
He's not taking 90/10.
50/50 plus ost's or go fight Shane Mosley and make a total joke out of your career.
Marquez doesn't need to prove nothing to Fudge, he already proved it twice.
yo are you marquez in disguise? horrible posting. your overwhelmed by your idols obsession with pac.
if he had nothing to prove he wouldn't be dreaming about pac and following him to the philippines, creating shirts about pac, etc.
pac this, pac that. your definitely delusional. i personally like marquez and feel he needs to get the fight but he's pricing himself out.
if you were smart which you are showing you lack sense. if he can beat him like he says then beat his ass and take his thrown. once he's on top of the world marquez can make the demands and the money.
It's funny to hear all the Manny fans say that Manny is THE draw and he doesn't need to give Marquez good money....when this same logic was applied with Floyd getting at least 60% based on his own prior ppv draws (he has topped Manny's ppv) ,they discounted the same logic they are now embracing...
That's because BOTH Pac and Floyd are draws.
Marquez is NOT.
It's funny to hear all the Manny fans say that Manny is THE draw and he doesn't need to give Marquez good money....when this same logic was applied with Floyd getting at least 60% based on his own prior ppv draws (he has topped Manny's ppv) ,they discounted the same logic they are now embracing...
And I heard somebody call the guys that JMM beat as mediocre. All the guys that JMM fought at 135 is better than David Diaz and Katsidis would KO Hatton with ease because Lazcano would've put Hatton away without the shoe incident and Lazcano is washed up as hell. Lol.
Brilliant post man.
Not only that, but Hatton was the type of fighter that needed to be undefeated to be good.
Once he got ktfo by Fraud, his aura of overpowering opponents was gone. The Lazcano fight proved it.
And I heard somebody call the guys that JMM beat as mediocre. All the guys that JMM fought at 135 is better than David Diaz and Katsidis would KO Hatton with ease because Lazcano would've put Hatton away without the shoe incident and Lazcano is washed up as hell. Lol.
I can't believe people here think Marquez is a draw... Talk about delusional.
Mayweather is a bigger draw than Pacquiao. That's why he did 1 million against Marquez.
Pacquiao/Marquez won't even do 700K.
Marquez is a nobody... Shane Mosley drew 400K more against Floyd and he did it without a national holiday.
Why fight a guy who has no fans?
umm... yes it is.
He got his sloppy ass outboxed 2x.
Umm.......not it is not.
And, eh... even though he is sloppy I thought he beat the poor man version of El Finitio 2x.
But, technically he won one and draw another. Either way the poor man version of Ricardo Lopez couldn't beat Pac.
One thing that Pacquiao did, was he turned down a 6 million dollar payday for the immediate rubber match and fought the mighty David Diaz who fought a life and death battle with the mighty Roman Montano. You know? The guy with no KOs on his record? Things that make you go hmmmm.
You know what makes me go hmmmm?
Aside from what you just mentioned when he ducked Nate Campbell?
The way everyone was riding his cock after he beat Margarito and calling him 8 time champ and "oooh he beat such a big guy"...
Yet when Martinez, who's the same size as Margarito k.o'd Williams, they all shrunk like a bunch of dicks in a freezer claiming that Pac is all of the sudden too small and that he's not 'REALLY" a JMW.
Even though he just won a "jmw" strap.
Pac is a fraud who only fights come forward sluggers with no defense.
The open secret is that he can't beat boxers cuz' he sucks as a boxer.
One thing that Pacquiao did, was he turned down a 6 million dollar payday for the immediate rubber match and fought the mighty David Diaz who fought a life and death battle with the mighty Roman Montano. You know? The guy with no KOs on his record? Things that make you go hmmmm.
montano is the truth. he knocked the great salita down twice and got robbed with a draw.
One thing that Pacquiao did, was he turned down a 6 million dollar payday for the immediate rubber match and fought the mighty David Diaz who fought a life and death battle with the mighty Roman Montano. You know? The guy with no KOs on his record? Things that make you go hmmmm.
When you drop a guy thrice in the first round and go on to get your ass handed to you in every subsequent round = embarrassed.
:loser:
Umm.....no it is not.
I do and I had Pac winning both fights. But, either way there is no embarrassing.
When you drop a guy thrice in the first round and go on to get your ass handed to you in every subsequent round = embarrassed.
:loser:
But the slickest and most subversive way to duck an opponent is to first state that you want the fight to happen, then price yourself out of the fight by asking for an unreachable and ridiculous amount of money during contract negotiations to kill the fight.
just like what mayweather did to cotto.
cotto was at 140 and mayweather was at 147
cotto was still fighting on undercards while floyd was headlining ppvs
mayweather's career high payday was 4 million at that point and he demanded 10 million to fight cotto!
flomos still cling to this like it's actual evidence he wanted the fight when it's the exact opposite.
When Pac got exposed in pretty much every round after the first one in the first fight.
And when JMM beat him in the second fight.
Don't you watch boxing?
I do and I had Pac winning both fights. But, either way there is no embarrassing.