Talking about Manny fighting Berto, and Bradley like those would be competitive fights?
I am asking honestly, do you watch boxing, or do you just read articles and look at boxrec?
Timothy Bradley? Heavy handed no defense or speed Timothy Bradley is a good matchup?
Where are you getting this from??? Show me film on Bradley as to how he could be competitive. Show me an impressive performance that is on par with even Manny's worst performance, in fighting a phenomenal boxer in JMM.
SHOW ME SOMETHING and stop talking about these "B" list fighters as if they're world class fighters on the same level as Manny Pacquiao.
Since when is Bradley heavy handed? He has 11 ko's in 26 fights. Thats not indicative of heavy hands, is it. Have you ever even seen him fight? If you have, you probably would understand why people are calling for the fight. Bradley is a very good boxer, who is always in phenomenal shape. And if he gets past Alexander, he should be on the threshold of a major fight.
You must see something else when you see Bradley fight. He moves like a guy who is wound up too tight. He doesn't move quickly and fluidly.
When I say "Heavy handed" I mean "Slow hands." Thanks for posting his lame KO percentage, a good indication that he has an even slimmer chance of Pacquiao, that is, a "puncher's chance."
Of all the guys people talk about, Bradley gets demolished the worst.
You and I have 2 different opinions as to what a "good boxer is."
A good boxer is somebody like Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Marco Barrera, Amir Khan, Juan Marquez, Floyd, etc... Bradley doesn't make this list.
He has no attributes that are necessary to be a good HOF or ATG boxer. He has an incredible set of abs, but aside from his physique, I do not see his appeal whatsoever.
Since the threadstarter is such an expert you would think he would at least have a couple suggestions for opponents who would be better than Berto or Bradley.
Better than Berto or Bradley? Not hard to find. My local gym has better fighters than Bradley.
Unlike many on this forum, I like Shane Mosley more than either of these guys. I also like Juan Manual Marquez at a 143 or 144 catchweight. Saul Alvarez is also better than both Bradley and Alexander.
Defending & beating guys who are hungry & on the come up would be an exclamation point at this point in Pacs Career that no one can deny nor take away. Id like to see it at least once before he retires leaving no doubt in anyone's mind.
Since when is Bradley heavy handed? He has 11 ko's in 26 fights. Thats not indicative of heavy hands, is it. Have you ever even seen him fight? If you have, you probably would understand why people are calling for the fight. Bradley is a very good boxer, who is always in phenomenal shape. And if he gets past Alexander, he should be on the threshold of a major fight.
I beg to differ. You dont need to be to heavy handed to beat pacquiao and since when was Bradley slow? He is fast on his feet and has above average handspeed. He could very well win against Pacquiao by UD.
Pac recent wins got you guys believing that he needs a guy with power and speed to beat him which isnt necessarily true. His recent wins over come forward fighters got you guys puzzled on finding competition for him. Hell Pac aint hard to hit, a boxer could very well box him by letting of combos first then clinch, rinse and repeat for 12 rounds.
Or you seen how when Cotto started using his legs Pac didnt seem too comfortable anymore after the brawling in the first 4 rounds. If a boxer adopts the style/gameplan that Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam which utilizes the ring and counter when the opponent gets frustrated could easily win against pac. Prob not by ko as most as you guys want to see but this is boxing whether by ko or decision, winning is winning. Pac aint a pressure fighter, he is an in and out puncher.
I agree you don't beat someone who thrives on battle by battling it out with them unless you are out and out better in that area.
The easiest way to beat someone of that nature is to not engage unless you have the advantage and frustrate the other guy making them weaker mentally (instead of physically).
Usually guys like Manny don't fight that sort of guy unless forced and since no one really seems to care all that much no reason to even try and climb that hill.
Its true.
People that are suggesting Bradley, or even Berto are basically wishing those guys career suicide.
They would never be the same after Manny got done with them.
Don't even get me started on Alexander.
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I know right.
I beg to differ. You dont need to be to heavy handed to beat pacquiao and since when was Bradley slow? He is fast on his feet and has above average handspeed. He could very well win against Pacquiao by UD.
Pac recent wins got you guys believing that he needs a guy with power and speed to beat him which isnt necessarily true. His recent wins over come forward fighters got you guys puzzled on finding competition for him. Hell Pac aint hard to hit, a boxer could very well box him by letting of combos first then clinch, rinse and repeat for 12 rounds.
Or you seen how when Cotto started using his legs Pac didnt seem too comfortable anymore after the brawling in the first 4 rounds. If a boxer adopts the style/gameplan that Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam which utilizes the ring and counter when the opponent gets frustrated could easily win against pac. Prob not by ko as most as you guys want to see but this is boxing whether by ko or decision, winning is winning. Pac aint a pressure fighter, he is an in and out puncher.
the only reason people want to see pac fight mosley, berto, alexander, or bradley is because pac hasn't already murdered them. i don't blame them though.
Even if he could conjure up Hearns or Leonard it would take even greater magic to get Pac or Mayweather to agree to fight them.
That is true if either of those guys existed it is hard to see Floyd or Manny even testing the water at 147. Or even anyone of that caliber.
Over coming size in one thing, over coming size and skill is next to impossible.
Talking about Manny fighting Berto, and Bradley like those would be competitive fights?
I am asking honestly, do you watch boxing, or do you just read articles and look at boxrec?
Timothy Bradley? Heavy handed no defense or speed Timothy Bradley is a good matchup?
Where are you getting this from??? Show me film on Bradley as to how he could be competitive. Show me an impressive performance that is on par with even Manny's worst performance, in fighting a phenomenal boxer in JMM.
SHOW ME SOMETHING and stop talking about these "B" list fighters as if they're world class fighters on the same level as Manny Pacquiao.
I agree 100%, thank you for clearing this up.
I want to see Pac fight Berto, but any boxing fan can see that this fight will not happen for obvious reasons.
Its true.
People that are suggesting Bradley, or even Berto are basically wishing those guys career suicide.
They would never be the same after Manny got done with them.
Don't even get me started on Alexander.
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I think you are being a little harsh on bradley too be honest,although i do agree that him and berto arent on pacs level and it would be one-sided beatdowns all round
These young guys have talent but havent proved they are elite yet
He obviously posses the technology or magic to summon prime Hearns, Leonard, and Robinson.
So that must be who he wants him to meat in the ring.
Even if he could conjure up Hearns or Leonard it would take even greater magic to get Pac or Mayweather to agree to fight them.
Since the threadstarter is such an expert you would think he would at least have a couple suggestions for opponents who would be better than Berto or Bradley.
He obviously posses the technology or magic to summon prime Hearns, Leonard, and Robinson.
So that must be who he wants him to meet in the ring.
Since the threadstarter is such an expert you would think he would at least have a couple suggestions for opponents who would be better than Berto or Bradley.
i just want to see pac v mayweather and far from that fight next in line is marquez v pac but other than that please retire. no mosley, i will not be watching this phony fight