Does Carl Froch have a better resume than Calzaghe?

Not yet. I voted no. He doesn't have a better resume YET. He will do though. If he beats Johnson and Ward he becomes unified champ at SMW and top 5 P4P imo. He then has to fight WBC Emeritus champ Kessler and has the opportunity to avenge his only defeat (which I thought was a draw). If he then beats Bute to become lineal SMW champ and moves up to beat Pascal or Hopkins (whoever is lineal LHW champ) then he definitely has a better resume and legacy. That's 5 more fights so those fights might not be done until mid-to-late 2012! By then I think he'd be 34 and close to retirement. If he wins them all he'd have a record of 32-1, with 9-1 in title fights (his only loss being a close fight and could have gone to Froch if it was in England or a neutral country). He'd have wins over: - Reid (past-prime), - Pascal (a bit green though, not prime) - Taylor - Dirrell (green, but still a close fight) - Abraham - Johnson - Ward - Kessler - Bute - Pascal (prime, lineal champ) or Hopkins (past-prime but would be lineal LHW champ if he beats Pascal). He'd be a 2 division lineal champion, having avenged his only defeat. That resume above is better than Calzaghe's because of the top-class opposition faced by Froch.: - Eubank (past-prime) - Reid - Sheika - Wooodhall - Veit x2 (in their first fight Veit was undefeated) - Lacy (prime) - Manfredo Jr - Kessler (prime, undefeated) - Hopkins (past-prime, but still the best LHW at the time) - Jones Jr (past-prime). - Various other titlist he defeated. However, it's worth noting that Calzaghe beat several undefeated fighters such as Veit, Lacy and Kessler. Froch has taken Pascal and Dirrell's undefeated records and could take Ward's too. Calzaghe's win vs. Kessler is not going to be topped by Froch too. Calzaghe is considered a top-100 ATG, and the best SMW of all time. Would Froch's superior resume make him a top-100 ATG or the best SMW of all time? Definitely a HoF though. I do however think that if Calzaghe ever fought Froch, Calzaghe would have won a wide UD, because he was the better 'boxer'. But we never know, Froch could lose to Johnson.

I like Calzaghe more and I think Calzaghe would have beaten Froch but yeah Froch's resume is light years ahead of Calzaghe's as far as names go. It will only get better, once he adds Johnson and a loss over Ward, then plans to fight the winner of Pascal-Hopkins at 175. As far as losses go, he lost to Kessler and Dirrell, one who Calzaghe beat. I also think Froch losses to Hopkins, who Calzaghe also beat. But yeah at the end of the day, Froch will have the better resume as far as having names go, but he will lose to guys that Calzaghe would have beaten. Calzaghe would have beaten Abraham even easier than Froch did.

You guys know I love Froch and I was one of the few that picked him vs Abraham but I'm 50/50.here. RJJ and Hopkins + Eubank & prime Lacy not to mention Bika who beat Ward this past weekend imho....impressive. Remember Carl lost a close fight (I thought he won) vs kessler too. Calzaghe broke Kessler!!! I say lets wait till Hopkins Pascal then we can better assess whether Pascal was indeed a win that pushes Froch's resume ahead of Joe's. If Pascal looses than Froch's resume is overblown. If he wins then **** me Carl's resume rocks!!!!

i think you are jumping the gun a little bit to be honest. let's not forget calzaghe had his own super six with calzaghe, mger mtchkian, juan carlos giminez ferrari, rick thornberry, tocker pudwill, and will mcintyre. and guess who won? calzaghe!

Easily, next thread please amen to that

Cobra has more fans than joe now ........... :p :firedevil:firedevil:firedevil

no, but I really think that joe should came out of reteirment and give cobra a chance to settle their sh it.. it will do huge numbers in the other side of the world....... cobra deserves his shot...

Froch has ducked nobody and has fought the best

Better resume? Yes Better fighter? No

The thing is with JC a lot of fights didnt get made but were talked about like RJJ, Glencoffe Johnson and clinton woods types etc. But also with JCs brittle hands fights were cancelled. Froch on the other hand was protected until very recently. Its only recently Froch has showed what he was capable of. JC did it early against David Starie and Robin Reid types who were better than most of Frochs earlier opponents..

yes no doubt

Yes he have a better resume but Joe was much better than Froch.

At the moment he doesn't, but if he continues to fight the best out there as he is doing and winning impressively, his resume will be better than Calzaghe's when it comes down to it in later years. However, at the moment, Calzaghe's is better.

he will at the end of his carreer and thats what counts I agree with this, unless he retires any time soon. Currently? No.

he will at the end of his carreer and thats what counts

:lol1: :lol1: Butt hurt much? You're on your own buddy... Okay, I'll do it again... Hopkins>Pascal (and you'll see it in Dec, even if he is 2 years older than he was) Kessler>Taylor Eubank>Abraham Lacy ? Reid>Reid Bika>? Woodhall (world champ)>? Mitchell (world champ)>? Brewer (world champ)>? Sheika (coming off Glen Johnson win)>? Froch has some really good wins but the rest of his resume is crap. There you go ya numpty

JC dominated some decent guys. Whether Froch has beaten better people is up for debate, but he lost to kessler and JC showed how he deals with kessler. Dirrell was awfully close as well.

Okay, I'll do it again... Hopkins>Pascal (and you'll see it in Dec, even if he is 2 years older than he was) Kessler>Taylor Eubank>Abraham Lacy ? Reid>Reid Bika>? Woodhall (world champ)>? Mitchell (world champ)>? Brewer (world champ)>? Sheika (coming off Glen Johnson win)>? Froch has some really good wins but the rest of his resume is crap.

Absolutely not. Don't really need to expand. :lol1: :lol1: Butt hurt much? You're on your own buddy...

Well if Froch looses to Johnson he won't have Ward on his resume but baring any disasters in the next few months he will have: Pascal Taylor Dirrell Kessler Abraham Johnson Which is quite frankly a ridiculous run of opponents considering the ducking that goes on in boxing now a days. Froch really is a classic old school British throwback. My favourite fighter by a country mile at the moment. The comparison to Calzaghe is interesting... Obviously Calzaghe was consistent in fighting B/C-level opposition with some good names in there but in my view Pascal is a beter fighter than Lacy was, Dirrell is also far better than Mitchell or someone like that... Sure, the Kessler that met Calzaghe was on prime rather than just off prime but also you must remember Froch fought that away from home. Calzaghe ducked Johnson three times and has noone quite like Abrham on his resume. In my view... If Froch can beat Johnson and just get into a fight with Ward he will have surpassed the resume of Calzaghe. Ward is a lot like Hopkins... i.e., right hand headbutt and hard to hit.