Someone explain to me how Pacquiao is ducking Martinez

If he goes back to the JMW division, then yes, he's ducking. However, he stated that he wouldn't gp back to JMW. So unless Martinez wants to come down to 147, Pac has no obligation to fight him.

I also thought Floyd vs Cotto at 154 was a damn good fight for Floyd to take. He is not a 154 pounder and it showed by Cottos ability to outmuscle Floyd easily in that fight. Floyd won big i think but he had to work his ass off for it.

I'm actually a fan of Martinez, but I only included that to show how ridiculous it looks to nitpick a fighter's record, and how the unending criticisms lobbied against Pacquiao are not applied to other fighters. I don't agree with (criticisms lobbied against Pacquiao are not applied to other fighters) this statement. Floyd is often criticized for his competition although aside from Pac I think he has been taking the best fights he could. Sergio Martinez is criticized for constantly calling out Floyd and Pac and he should be. Those 2 are much too small to fight him unless they drain him to near death, and were they to win under those circumstances they wouldn't get much credibility from it anyway. Up until the Froch fight Bute was criticized, as was Calzaghe his whole career and in my opinion with good reason. Pac is taking a pretty good fight right now against Bradley in my opinion. Hard to call who's gonna come out on top in that one.

You almost sounded somewhat credible until that point. :lol1: I'm actually a fan of Martinez, but I only included that to show how ridiculous it looks to nitpick a fighter's record, and how the unending criticisms lobbied against Pacquiao are not applied to other fighters.

He really is too small. Its not that he cant fight these guys, its just that he cant maintain fighting guys that big that many times. It takes a toll on his body.

Those criticizing Pacquiao for not wanting to face Martinez are under the assumption that Pacquiao intends to keep fighting much larger opponents. Pacquiao realizes that he can't keep fighting bigger opponents unless he wants to suffer brain damage, so his fight with Margarito was a one-time foray in the middleweight division. He even admitted that Margarito was too big for him, and now intends on fighting at 147 or less. Nobody should blame Pacquiao for this decision. None of these criticisms of Pacquiao change the fact that he's clearly boxing's P4P champion and the boxer with the best record. Haters just love to nitpick the tiniest details. And don't tell me that Martinez is better than Pacquiao and Mayweather in the P4P standings. I can also nitpick Sergio's recent performances by claiming that he couldn't even eek a decisive win over Cintron, that he beat a Kelly Pavlik who was exposed by old-man Hopkins, and that he's still 1-1 with Williams. You almost sounded somewhat credible until that point. :lol1:

Martinez has been fighting at 154 for 8 or 9 years and his last 3 fights have been at Middleweight, while Pacquiao has fought at 140-147 in his last 4 fights before he fought Marg at 150. So somehow since Martinez is the MW champ and knocked out Williams Pacquiao is already ducking him? He can't even be ducking at all because Martinez said himself Pac is too small for him. Pac weighed in under 145 for his last fight and 148 tops on fight night and he has to fight for MW title or he is ducking? what the fuck is that? he is ducking everyone

sorry but i cant agree with you saying Martinez couldnt eke a win over Cintron. He dominated Cintron the whole fight. Knocked him out only to have the ref start the fight again, and should've got a huge decision win. At least 10 rounds to 2

Those criticizing Pacquiao for not wanting to face Martinez are under the assumption that Pacquiao intends to keep fighting much larger opponents. Pacquiao realizes that he can't keep fighting bigger opponents unless he wants to suffer brain damage, so his fight with Margarito was a one-time foray in the middleweight division. He even admitted that Margarito was too big for him, and now intends on fighting at 147 or less. Nobody should blame Pacquiao for this decision. None of these criticisms of Pacquiao change the fact that he's clearly boxing's P4P champion and the boxer with the best record. Haters just love to nitpick the tiniest details. And don't tell me that Martinez is better than Pacquiao and Mayweather in the P4P standings. I can also nitpick Sergio's recent performances by claiming that he couldn't even eek a decisive win over Cintron, that he beat a Kelly Pavlik who was exposed by old-man Hopkins, and that he's still 1-1 with Williams.

Everybody within Pac's weight class wants to fight him and hype their credentials because "He is the MAN" right now and whoever fights him will earn a "Sh!t Load" amount of money but not neccessarily that they can Beat Him. Martinez is just the same!

Its actually easy. Pac is jmw champ because he beat a guy the same size as Martinez in Margarito. Pac also claimed Foreman was too big for him, but fought and beat the guy that knocked out Foreman. How is Pac too small, but Cotto is not? People expect Cotto and Fraud to fight Martinez as well, but they claim Pac is too small, even though those same people claim they want to see Pac/Fraud. Its all too inconsistent for me. That's because you are assuming people don't change their minds. Roach himself at one time said that Margarito was simply too big for Pac. And we know how that went. Also, don't listen to all the rumors. Just observe what the fighters say and what they do and keep in mind the context or what the situation was when they said it.

Martinez has been fighting at 154 for 8 or 9 years and his last 3 fights have been at Middleweight, while Pacquiao has fought at 140-147 in his last 4 fights before he fought Marg at 150. So somehow since Martinez is the MW champ and knocked out Williams Pacquiao is already ducking him? He can't even be ducking at all because Martinez said himself Pac is too small for him. Pac weighed in under 145 for his last fight and 148 tops on fight night and he has to fight for MW title or he is ducking? what the fuck is that? Haters just gotta hate, that's all. Negotiations haven't started yet, with Team pac simply weighing their options, and people are already making their own assumptions on who he's fighting and at what weight, and CRITICIZING him for actions they ASSUME he's gonna make. Hate promotes stupidity and this is a perfect example of that.

Its actually easy. Pac is jmw champ because he beat a guy the same size as Martinez in Margarito. Pac also claimed Foreman was too big for him, but fought and beat the guy that knocked out Foreman. How is Pac too small, but Cotto is not? People expect Cotto and Fraud to fight Martinez as well, but they claim Pac is too small, even though those same people claim they want to see Pac/Fraud. Its all too inconsistent for me.