If Pac fights AND beats Martinez, he is #1 ATG

Pacquiao is already #1 ATG. This thread fails.

a bif if though

It has to be over 154. Pac is the one driving this train. 153 or gtfo. What's Martinez gonna do??? Fight K9? :lol1:

if Manny beat Martinez he would still be top 15 or 20 ATG. Martinez hasnt done anything to make PAC #1 ATG All time. Martinez hasnt even beaten any future hall of famer. winning against PW doesnt make Sergio an ATG. I don't think he passes Robinson or Ali but if he beat Floyd and Sergio...then I think that is enough to push him past Leonard, Louis, Duran and Pep. Real talk as much as I dislike him.....Floyd is more talented than anyone those guys have faced (Leonard, Duran, Pep and Louis' opponents). I doubt Manny could do it but if so.....dude is top 3 all time.

There was this dude called Sugar Ray.... :boobies: funny how this was avoided.

if pac fights sergio at a catch weight of 156 and really beats him f@ck yeah Word is born... You can't steal that from FudgePacky.

if pac fights sergio at a catch weight of 156 and really beats him f@ck yeah

if Manny beat Martinez he would still be top 15 or 20 ATG. Martinez hasnt done anything to make PAC #1 ATG All time. Martinez hasnt even beaten any future hall of famer. winning against PW doesnt make Sergio an ATG.

Its like this IF pac fought Martinez at 160 and beat him. Pac would become the Lineal Champion and the absolute best at 160 dating from Hopkins UNIFIED Title before yielding it to Taylor. That would be Pac's 5th Lineal title if it happens FLYWEIGHT( Sasakul ) FEATHERWEIGHT ( Barrera ) Jr LIGHTWEIGHT ( Marquez ) Jr. WELTERWEIGHT ( Hatton ) MIDDLEWEIGHT () With that said. PAC is too Small and has a great chance at losing if the fight is at 160. Even in defeat, Manny still wins. Robinson is applauded for going after the much bigger Maxim, even though he came up short and same with Armstrong when he went for the MW strap against Garcia. No one ever criticized them for not winning and actually were used to define how great they were as fighters. I see the same thing with Manny. If he wants to go down as a top 5 possibly top 3 ATG...it's risk like this that he has to take. I hope he does because it's obvious that he will easily beat guys like Marquez, Berto, Bradley and others.

I'm not sorry. Express yourself, don't repress yourself.

we will never know pare

Gran Vaca eats Cotto up like so much dead grass. this thread need musik. agreed, time to lighten up this depressing thread I dont even know how to respond to these two posts.

If he beats Floyd @ 147 then moves up and beats Sergio at 160 then yes, maybe. no he still wouldnt have a better resume than ali leanard duran robinson to name a few. Robinson had more ko 's then manny had fights, it wuld be a spit in his face to say mannys atg #1

Watch as El Gran Vaca de Dinero turns his opponents into wet grass and chews them up. You think The Quitter can last vs Vaca? dont make me laugh. i know even you dont believe your own **** man. But im not one of those short tempered ricans you get a rush pissing off. I know as well as you do that miguel cotto rips chavez jr a new a$$hole. your not fooling me at all.

I cant believe your really accepting catchweights now, 153 for Martinez? Sorry jack but gtfo with that sh*t. I hope you didnt become a pactard all of a sudden now. Pacquiao vs Martinez under 156 is unacceptable, i dont think Sergio can make 154 but im not 100% sure. If you fruit cups want a REAL fight no catchweight gay sh*t, real warriors going toe to toe action then hear this. Sergio Martinez vs El Gran Vaca de Dinero real fight... am sorry but are you retarded? because sergio would wipe the floor with that bum chavez you clearly dont know sh!t about boxing if you actually think that's a REAL fight.

Oh damn, looks like we got an emotional rican on our hands:lol1: He'll be on his knees in no time begging for mercy. :lol1:

Gran Vaca eats Cotto up like so much dead grass. this thread need musik.

im a pacfan but it should be at 156 IMO , no more lower than that... kill koncks so it will be at 156 i thik 157 is fair, and it would be cool if manny took that challenge. but not for the middleweight title of coarse. 160 or no title imo.

If he beats Floyd @ 147 then moves up and beats Sergio at 160 then yes, maybe.

Chavez Jr. couldnt even beat k9 Bundrage let alone a great legend like Cotto. Jr peaked against Duddy an Irish cab driver face it. Did the empanada factory let you guys off early today or did you call in sick like your lazy countrymen usually do?