STOP THE BS: Spaniards are not "white" as Americans define it

all europeans are white to me.... Only in Americn are people ignorate enough to label someone by a false skin Color. Everyone everywhere else uses their nationality to define who they are. e.g. German, Spaniard, Ukrainian. Scottish, Irish, Ghanaian.

White-a phrase coined in american to decribe a caucasian male/female. No one in europe uses this term, rather they refer to themselve by their nationality. That "white" phrase was only used in america for political purposes and to deny the right od certain groups, while given others all types of passes and kickbacks. Hell for the longest Irish, Italians and others weren't considered "White" in american....so how the hell are spaniards. At most some latino's are considerd ________ with European descent.

LOL, as your thread title, LATIN AMERICAN was labeled by Americans, referring to Central and South American, and Carribieans. No, it was not labeled by Americans. Latin America includes Brazil, primarily. As in Spanish and Portuguese speaking-influenced countries. Some people also include French speaking countries, I don't know about that. Hispanic America is used to refer to countries that speak Spanish and were influenced heavily by Spain. That takes out Brazil and Haiti, for example. Neither term was invented by Americans. In fact, Americans called Puerto Rico "PORTO RICO" because their generals used Portuguese maps.

Holy **** man He's of Spanish descent and has moved back and forth between Argentina and Spain, two countries with large Spanish populations Do all of you log on here drunk on the brink of passing out in your own vomit? Well when u put it that way... Fukk u. But at the same time, okay I get it now, thanks.

all europeans are white to me.... Lennox Lewis too? Or Ashley Cole? :la:

all europeans are white to me....

Much of it's territory was occupied for almost 800 years by the MOORS, who were Berbers and Arabs, mainly. So Spaniards have mixed racial/ethnic heritage, however "pale skinned" they might be. I don't like to delve much into racist BS, but there has been so much sh*t said this morning that I have to point out that fact. Martínez is Latin American to the bone. Just like Margo, Canelo, Cotto, Montiel, Barrera, John Ruiz, etc. The Moorish were eradicated from Spain in 1492, and that Moor genetic makeup also made their way into Latin America, thanks to Columbus. That is all. LOL, as your thread title, LATIN AMERICAN was labeled by Americans, referring to Central and South American, and Carribieans.

Holy **** man He's of Spanish descent and has moved back and forth between Argentina and Spain, two countries with large Spanish populations Do all of you log on here drunk on the brink of passing out in your own vomit? :rofl: Unfortunately, it looks like it.

hahahaha everyone in the thread owned the retard he's still going at it. Must feel lonely being the only person on EARTH not knowing the truth hahahahahaa

man what a thread failure. thread starter is an ignorant moron child. EVERY country on earth considers SPAIN 100% white european, no less white than italy, germany, france. I have a friend from Madrid and him and his family classify themselves as 100% WHITE. You are truly retarded.

Spaniards from Spain are 100% white. Check the fact book, until then you're embarrassing yourself. Every country including Spain itself considers itself a white european nation. You're ignorant. I'm not saying Martinez is white, cus he's not a Spaniard. But if he was, he'd be white. Yet I am the ignorant? Am I the one saying that "if you are Spaniard, you are white"? No, you are. So I guess in your "fact book" (whatever that is) Spain was not occupied for around 800 years, Al Andalus (Andalucía) never existed. "La Reconquista" is a fairy tale, and somehow, the Spaniards invented a genotype-cleaning-Hitler-machine that wiped out Moorish ancestry from their DNA. Just stating that in racist USA, with racist laws/mindsets, Spain, as a nation, would have a hard time stating it's "whiteness".

CONSIDERING MARTINEZ IS FROM ARGENTINA.... Does it matter if people from spain r white? Martinez isn't. That said, if u think Italians aren't white, than u think Spaniards aren't white. Did u guys know Italians think they r the first Latinos? (some do anyway)

Much of it's territory was occupied for almost 800 years by the MOORS, who were Berbers and Arabs, mainly. So Spaniards have mixed racial/ethnic heritage, however "pale skinned" they might be. I don't like to delve much into racist BS, but there has been so much sh*t said this morning that I have to point out that fact. Martínez is Latin American to the bone. Just like Margo, Canelo, Cotto, Montiel, Barrera, John Ruiz, etc. The Moorish were eradicated from Spain in 1492, and that Moor genetic makeup also made their way into Latin America, thanks to Columbus. That is all. Spaniards from Spain are 100% white. Check the fact book, until then you're embarrassing yourself. Every country including Spain itself considers itself a white european nation. You're ignorant. I'm not saying Martinez is white, cus he's not a Spaniard. But if he was, he'd be white.

Spaniards are not "white" as Americans define it These dumb yankees don't even know there's a country called 'SPAIN' LMFAO!!!!!!!!! They are pathetic

Not it is not, in Valencia there are loads of algerian, moroccan and other north african inmigrants and they're easily distinguishable of white spaniards (of course there are mixed spaniards too which could be confused), if I was put side to sides with an algerian or a moroccan, the difference in skin colour would be pretty apreciable. I'm going to end this discussion right here because I think we're going back and forth here. I encourage anyone on this board to not take my word for it and spend their next holidays in Spain or Portugal and maybe post on this board about the people they've met and seen. Maybe post a few pictures as well. You will likely enjoy your stay as well

What reason would I possibly have to lie? I'm a caucasian german with russian ancestry any member from back in 2007 when I first joined can validate this as can they confirm that I'm currently residing in Southern Europe (mostly setting up business in Lanzarote though) and have been for the good past ten years of my life. Now personally I don't think you're telling the truth at all. I wasn't comparing all Northern Africans to Algerians. I was comparing Spaniards and Portugese to Algerians as they share the same skin tone and it is a proven fact they share most of their DNA with Northern Africans. I have had a lot of Spaniards tell me this myself and frankly it is plain for anyone to see as well This man speaks the truth and he is whiter than Sergio, for sure. Sergio is just a little bit brown, what's wrong with that?!

Dude, just STFU for real. There is no such thing as race, we are the HUMAN RACE. They only thing that makes us different is our CULTURE, we are only different based on where we were born and nothing more. Sergio is light skinned simply because his ancestors didn't live in Africa/Middle East, if they did he would be darker. I hate this **** about race this race that... we are different colors for the same reason grizzly bears are brown and polar bears are white, its evolution. Black people have darker skin to protect them better from the son as they are initially from Africa and white people lived in Europe where it was less bright and more rainy/foggy. So please just drop this dumb ass topic, an Argentinian KO'd an American, who gives a **** what color they are the better fighter won, its that simple. This isn't to say you can't be proud of your culture or where you come from, but calling Sergio white is just stupid, the guy is from Argentina... its obvious if he was actually FROM the US he would already be 10x's the star he is now. Looks, personality... (no homo) he really should just learn english and he'd be riding a gravy train. There is always, ALWAYS, a "shoot first, ask questions later" MORON like yourself who fails either to read properly in context or fails to read all the posts.

For real, who started this "what race is Sergio Martinez" discussion anyways? Lol true! We can sit here all day and discuss this without a clear answer and the bottom line is in his heart he's a Latino as he clearly stated in his post fight interview when he said he dedicated this fight to all HIS Latino people around the world

American can decline for 100 years and it will still be an empire compared to the 3rd world paradise your mother conceived you in. Here is another one :bottle:

Latino and european are not races numbskull. Ok I stand corrected! I was referring to his ethnicity not his race