This is why I wish Valero was still alive.

I'd rather see Pacquiao vs Valero than Pacquiao Mayweather. It would've been a WAR like none other. It would've made Hagler Hearns look like a couple of old ladies playing mahjong

You officially know nothing about boxing. So a slower, smaller, weaker, easy to hit, raw fighter gives Pacquiao a ton of trouble? Really? Valero has become, as I expected, so incredibly overrated since he died. Even more so than he was when he was alive.

You've got to be kidding. This would have been one of the easiest fights of Pacquiao's career.

yeah, pretty much. i just want to see pacquiao in there with another speed fighter... even only for a few rounds.

Lol. Out of all the recognizable fighters name wise near Manny's weight class he sucks the most. I think Berto would beat him and before his fight with Matthyse I thought Zab had a chance. for me its all about style matchups though

would love to see this too. i don't want to sound topical but i think judah would win the first 2 rounds just on his slickness. he seems to lose his technique pretty early though, idk if it's his stamina or what lol. Lol. Out of all the recognizable fighters name wise near Manny's weight class he sucks the most. I think Berto would beat him and before his fight with Matthyse I thought Zab had a chance.

would love to see this too. i don't want to sound topical but i think judah would win the first 2 rounds just on his slickness. he seems to lose his technique pretty early though, idk if it's his stamina or what lol. southpaw vs southpaw speed vs speed

speaking of which, i'd watch pac annihilate judah would love to see this too. i don't want to sound topical but i think judah would win the first 2 rounds just on his slickness. he seems to lose his technique pretty early though, idk if it's his stamina or what lol.

Pacquiao would beat him with 4 fingers. I wouldn't even be interested in this fight.

Valero wasn't a small guy. He was outgrowing 135 and he was on his way to 140. Perfect weight to have the fight at. either one would have been fine im sure someone will make a joke that pac would want it at 137.597 or something let me put it this way i think valero v pac is the most exciting fight out there for pac (if it were real) but i think it ends early and easy for pac speaking of which, i'd watch pac annihilate judah

Valero wasn't a small guy. He was outgrowing 135 and he was on his way to 140. Perfect weight to have the fight at.

even the pac that beat diaz at 135 would win easy IMO but yeah, would be a barn burner

I'm not saying Valero would've beaten Pacquiao. But does everybody agree with me that he would be more of a threat than Berto and Mosley? i dont know man due to the size, i think mosley can give him SOME trouble.... berto is a scrub in my book, i dont like him at all i think it would have been a 3 round fight, MAX but war while it lasted

uh... the pacquiao we have now would school and destroy valero in one round man. would've been a hell of a brawl at LW tho.

I'm not saying Valero would've beaten Pacquiao. But does everybody agree with me that he would be more of a threat than Berto and Mosley?

Love the thread man. Valero was La Verdad. He would've given Pac an unbelievable fight. I curse the dark forces that took him so prematurely. He was on his way to ATG status and they robbed him from us. :nonono:

i was a big valero fan but pac would have annihilated him it would have been like well, nevermind thats inappropriate

floyd slaps a b1tch and he's the worst fukkin kind this valero guy kills his wife kills himself and people miss him wtf? Lol. Welcome to my thread. I don't really care what Floyd does either outside of the ring really. But him being a dumb ass on top of being a chicken **** is why this controversy of Pac not being able to beat or be competitive with slick AA fighters can't be put to rest. At least Valero would've accepted the fight at the drop of a hat. And it wouldn't interfere with Arum's top rank circle jerk.

floyd slaps a b1tch and he's the worst fukkin kind this valero guy kills his wife kills himself and people miss him wtf?

Valero was good, but unproven.