clottey would school tito like winky..
So the odds have it...2 pactards think Clottey would win....lol
We finally have confirmation, Now we all know Tito wins.
Clottey could make Trinidad look like crap for a lot of the beginning but he'd end up getting pounded on and outpointed---potentially stopped, although the guy's got an iron skull, Felix hit like a truck.
LOL at people comparing Clottey to Winky just because of the high guard, crazy.
Tito didn't break Winky's guard because the fight was at 160 and he didn't have the same power at MW. On the other hand at Welter Tito was a devastaring puncher, with killing instinct who never gassed out. What could happen against a man who uses to stand right in front of you, with a high guard and has a low output of punches??? Simple, Tito would've knocked Clottey out within 5 rds.
It would be Tito vs Wright all over again, except maybe a little bit more competitive. But that wouldn't be saying much considering Tito vs Wright wasn't competitive at all. I suppose the KO is always there for Tito though.
i hate to agree with you but we're on the same page on this topic!
DLH will never be regarded a Top 40 guy by most rational/knowledgeable boxing fans and analysts.
A correct perspective on his place in history will be maintained in general. He was a very good fighter, just a tier behind the true All-Timers.
Tito's not unbeatable per se. He's unbeatable to a Joshua Clottey.
Everything Clottey does that Winky did, Winky did it better and more besides. He also possessed intangibles that Clottey doesn't. Two different calibers of fighter.
about hoya , he has a better resume than some of th people i see in a top 30 all time but thats anoher dicussuion....none of us here is enttiled to say who or who dont belong in that discussion but hoya's resume is great!
now, i never said clottey does anything better than winky but they both hve the good defense, the high guard in particular and the jab that , thats the main reasons why tito got beat bigtime ..and also the fact that tito could'nt adapt with that kind of style....clottey is all wrong for tito!...the onlyproblem i have for lottey is his low out put thas why i pick him by UD, and not as one side beatdown like vs winky !...
It would be Tito vs Wright all over again, except maybe a little bit more competitive. But that wouldn't be saying much considering Tito vs Wright wasn't competitive at all. I suppose the KO is always there for Tito though.
Expect Hoya to be what? Oscar is a highly acclaimed fighter already.
You're overrating Clottey. He simply isn't that good, he doesn't do enough and he doesn't possess enough drive to be anything more than a well-schooled contender.
His fight with Pacquiao looked exactly as it should've looked, based on what both fighters do. Pacquiao doesn't fight as Cotto does, so Clottey would never have been able to replicate the success he had with Cotto against Pacquiao. Nevertheless, he fought as Clottey always fights.
Clottey has nothing with which to beat a Tito Trinidad. You won't convince many people otherwise, and for good reason.
try making a hoya thread saying he's a top 40 all time and see what responses you get...lol...but he will be reagrded somewhere mayb around there in the future..
..if im overartin clotey, youre overarating tito aswell ....a lot of here says he's some unbeatbleguy but the fact that he got beat one sidedly(how many times do i hvave to say that word)...vs winky tells me otherwise....winky beat him with things that clottey does very well is my basis why isaid what i said.....and pac and cotto dont have antyhitng to do with the thread....
He didn't really have a "poor outing" against Pacquiao. He wasn't "beat mentally", he just fought like Clottey fights. That fight looked exactly as it should have looked.
You're overrating him. He's a solid contender in this era, but he doesn't do enough and he doesn't possess the drive to beat a guy of Trinidad's caliber. 'Styles make fights' just becomes a meaningless slogan when you wave it a fight like this, because there's nothing Clottey can do to win it.
thats not tue aat all.....he cottley fought cotto like he di pacquiao, it would'nt have been close or controversial....a lot of posters overate fightrs once they retire....i excpect hoya to be the same 5 years from now....what did it take for winky to beat tito?.....a peekk aboo appraoch and a good jab, very common to clottey!
Your overrating clotteys ability.
Clotteys best win was a close fight with zab judah whom he outweighed by 20 pounds. Clottey couldnt hold titos jockstrap and you dont want to understand that. The fact you think clottey ca beat tito is crazy and you dont have a good argument for it. But at least you tried, your kno
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no man...i think people are hatin on clottey right because of the poor outing he did vs pac..kinda leaves a bad taste in everybody's mouth...and i dont blame em.....but i dont get blinded by that performnce from clottey's abilities...he simply got beat menatlly in that fight......but sayin clottey does'nt have the tools to beat a tito is simply delutional simply becasue winky beat him one sidedly with tools commmon to clottey...a peek a boo approach and a good jab!....
you need a great footwork to beat margo if your a smaller man....trinidad beats margo maybe even wrost than shane did in less rounds....beating a mrago and aclottey is 2 different things mofo......clottey an winky goy a very similar approach on using the high guard, clottey's got a good jab and with those two is good enough weapon for a tito stlye.....ther's bad stley for evybody if you fight everybody........and clottey is to tito what kryptonite is to superman, it is what it is!
Your overrating clotteys ability.
Clotteys best win was a close fight with zab judah whom he outweighed by 20 pounds. Clottey couldnt hold titos jockstrap and you dont want to understand that. The fact you think clottey ca beat tito is crazy and you dont have a good argument for it. But at least you tried, your knowledge on boxing is very low and i can tell you havent been watching it for too long. Good luck finding a hardcore fan that agrees with you
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lol you dont need great footwork to beat clottey and margarito smart one
i dont wish ****. Trinidad woud be favored to beat them both and most likely knock them out. Exactly styles make fights. if a facefirst b level fighter like cheato can beat clottey on workrate alone imagine what an atg ww like trinidad can do to him.
you need a great footwork to beat margo if your a smaller man....trinidad beats margo maybe even wrost than shane did in less rounds....beating a mrago and aclottey is 2 different things mofo......clottey an winky goy a very similar approach on using the high guard, clottey's got a good jab and with those two is good enough weapon for a tito stlye.....ther's bad stley for evybody if you fight everybody........and clottey is to tito what kryptonite is to superman, it is what it is!
that wasnt prime tito..nor was it at 147..and winky is 3 times the fighter clotteys ever been
i just compared winky and clottey's guard thats it. i didn't say clottey was as good as winky, just that his guard is as good.
LOl...dont even bring up hopkins,coz he destroys tito easliy 100 times in 100 fights , whciever version....how the fukk can you back up fantasy fights with facts?....lol....
i never said trinidad would beat hopkins, i know he cant. I simply said he was never relevant after that loss am i wrong? Manny wouldntv lasted half as long with ex
you wish,...tito never had the footwarok of a pacman..the only thing i agree is tito would've beaten margs by ko...tito was a nightmare for brawlers...but aclottey would've been a bad style match up for him! this is when you say " styles make fights!.....
lol you dont need great footwork to beat clottey and margarito smart one
i dont wish ****. Trinidad woud be favored to beat them both and most likely knock them out. Exactly styles make fights. if a facefirst b level fighter like cheato can beat clottey on workrate alone imagine what an atg ww like trinidad can do to him.
wrong...your posts are opinions...bad ones in fact. And trinidad was past it. After the hopkins loss he was never relevant in boxing oher than a ticket seller again. Not even a paper title...nada
Its ok to have a prediction and back it up with knowledge but you dont have enough of that to make strong point. You saying clottey would beat tito is actually laughable
LOl...dont even bring up hopkins,coz he destroys tito easliy 100 times in 100 fights , whciever version....how the fukk can you back up fantasy fights with facts?....lol....
thats it is right you have no argument but i will enlightnen you
winky is the bigger man
winky has more reach
winky has a far greater jab
winky is a far greater fighter.
If you think manny looked good beating cheato (shanes win was also better), and clottey. Trinidad would not only look better but would knock them both out in devastating fashion.
you wish,...tito never had the footwarok of a pacman..the only thing i agree is tito would've beaten margs by ko...tito was a nightmare for brawlers...but aclottey would've been a bad style match up for him! this is when you say " styles make fights!.....