How many lbs will Tony go over 150 lbs (penalty is $500,000 per pound over the limit)

You are retarded. He was 154 on 24-7 after a workout. My trainer (former world mw champ chris pyatt) says he used to sweat up to 8 pounds in a heavy workout) And some would sweat 2 plds in a workout you assume alot of things , we took Wif Gentzen to Glasgow to defend his Empire title against Gary Jacobs in the mid 80s and Wilf would really retain fluids we had to monitor his salt levels over the last 7 days to get is body to release it we never had these issues at 140 but at 147 , sodium is an old time durietic they got much better stuff today ,,, fighters are all different in the way they hold fluid and weight ,,, based on all the evidence and looking at Margo I feel he will have weight issues , I doubt he will be over 158-160 when he should be 165 170 on the night ,,, time will tell .

How can he be 20 pds more when he is only 154 now , you saying he is 8% dehydrated before he starts to make weight ,,, your own numbers dont add up buddy , because its not across the board its relative to the fighter in question and where thay are in terms of muscle and body fat , the numbers Margo is showing now is the first sign weight will be an issue , if he was going well weight wise he should be at least 160 not 154 . You are retarded. He was 154 on 24-7 after a workout. My trainer (former world mw champ chris pyatt) says he used to sweat up to 8 pounds in a heavy workout)

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I know personally an MMA fighter (not a boxer but still to do with rehydration who loses about 6kg (13 pounds) to make weight and he is pretty ripped (look up andre winner). I didn't mean 10% across the board always works, I am just saying that is the norm. I know your body holds onto water, but you can force water out of it. It isn't healthy to do if you don't know what you are doing, but it can be done safely. I don't know how people calculate that Pac has an advantage when Margarito is going to be near enough 20 pounds more than Pac. How can he be 20 pds more when he is only 154 now , you saying he is 8% dehydrated before he starts to make weight ,,, your own numbers dont add up buddy , because its not across the board its relative to the fighter in question and where thay are in terms of muscle and body fat , the numbers Margo is showing now is the first sign weight will be an issue , if he was going well weight wise he should be at least 160 not 154 .

10% of what if your 10% underweight , you talk like it dont matter what your are when starting the process that you will lose 10% regardless , bullsh!t , not without durietics and playing with your sodium intake a week earlier ,,,, the body will only let go so much fluid , if you lower your muscle mass and fat content the less you can dry out , which is why Margo is only 4 pounds away , according to you he can make 140 because he 154 now ,,, if he was fighting at 154 he would be over 160 now , you know why because its a sliding scale , Margo is down so low because he had to get his mass down to be able to dry out a little bit to make it . Margos current weight of 154 proves your 10% across the board is bullsh!t . Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I know personally an MMA fighter (not a boxer but still to do with rehydration who loses about 6kg (13 pounds) to make weight and he is pretty ripped (look up andre winner). I didn't mean 10% across the board always works, I am just saying that is the norm. I know your body holds onto water, but you can force water out of it. It isn't healthy to do if you don't know what you are doing, but it can be done safely. I don't know how people calculate that Pac has an advantage when Margarito is going to be near enough 20 pounds more than Pac.

VACANT championship bouts shouldn't be decided like this..... I think that the catchweights issue is BS. Like we don't have enough divisions already.... The sanctioning bodies should put a stop to the "catchweights". If you wanna come in at 148 thats cool but the limit is 154. No if ands or but's about it. If you feel it would be a disadvantage to have your opponent come in at 154 then stay your a$$ down at 147. All championship bouts are 12 rounds, and every "body" makes their own rules... so why can't they add this to the list. People are taking advantage in boxing currently because no one back in the days thought of this trickery... I just don't understand how you could even put this crap in the contracts. This is Bob "Anti-Christ" Arum's doing!

Its a pretty complex process but typically 10% bw can be cut. To simplify, there is no fluid intake during the cut. Short intervals in a steam room are taken to cut weight (not for long) over a certain period. Fighters even chew um and spit it out in saliva. Instantly after the weight in, fighters take rehydration formulas which are specially formulated to speed up rehydration (a drink with the right concentrations of carbohydrates and salt can also do this). This way fighters can replenish weight properly and healthily at a rate of about 1 litre (1lb) per hour. 10% of what if your 10% underweight , you talk like it dont matter what your are when starting the process that you will lose 10% regardless , bullsh!t , not without durietics and playing with your sodium intake a week earlier ,,,, the body will only let go so much fluid , if you lower your muscle mass and fat content the less you can dry out , which is why Margo is only 4 pounds away , according to you he can make 140 because he 154 now ,,, if he was fighting at 154 he would be over 160 now , you know why because its a sliding scale , Margo is down so low because he had to get his mass down to be able to dry out a little bit to make it . Margos current weight of 154 proves your 10% across the board is bullsh!t .

Manny 144 lbs !!! that was a lot less than i thought..1 division below

You need to get into a gym buddy and try it ,, he wasnt weight drained he was over dieted and underweight lol ,,,, thats weight drained !! you don't understand what weightdrained means in boxing. weightdrained in boxing terms is when a guy has to dehydrate and cut so much water weight to make the weigh in. that's not what happened to delahoya. delahoya tried to keep his weight near the weight limit for most of his camp. that's why he was at 150 weeks before the fight.

1. comparing a guy who just fought at 154 and going down to 150 to guys who fought at 200-220 and go down to 175 is just ridiculous. you shouldn't even bother. byrd was a career heavyweight and then he tried to go to 175. roy jones bulked up to 190-200. not exactly the same as a margarito who is a career 147 guy who fought 154 after a year and half layoff and now going down 4 lbs. 2. delahoya wasn't weightdrained. he was overdieted , underweight , overtrained......whatever.....he wasn't weightdrained. he was supposedly at 150 weeks before the fight. You need to get into a gym buddy and try it ,, he wasnt weight drained he was over dieted and underweight lol ,,,, thats weight drained !!

You missed the bit where I asked to explain Oscar , thats the most extreme case only because we know the numbers , most fights you do get to see the numbers ,,, Come on smart ass tell me how to make weight , starting from a week out and then tell me what you do over the the last 24 hours ? Its a pretty complex process but typically 10% bw can be cut. To simplify, there is no fluid intake during the cut. Short intervals in a steam room are taken to cut weight (not for long) over a certain period. Fighters even chew um and spit it out in saliva. Instantly after the weight in, fighters take rehydration formulas which are specially formulated to speed up rehydration (a drink with the right concentrations of carbohydrates and salt can also do this). This way fighters can replenish weight properly and healthily at a rate of about 1 litre (1lb) per hour.

How do you know this? Seems like Tony is down to his last now, cutting more? For sure Tony needs to cut muscle to make 150, it's common sense. how do i know this? because 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the time in boxing people are cutting water weight. you think going in a sauna and not drinking water is cutting muscle?

Jones, Byrd, and DLH all made weight initially. Didn't stop them from being weight drained. Actually DLH came in one pound less than Pacquiao at the weigh in. 1. comparing a guy who just fought at 154 and going down to 150 to guys who fought at 200-220 and go down to 175 is just ridiculous. you shouldn't even bother. byrd was a career heavyweight and then he tried to go to 175. roy jones bulked up to 190-200. not exactly the same as a margarito who is a career 147 guy who fought 154 after a year and half layoff and now going down 4 lbs. 2. delahoya wasn't weightdrained. he was overdieted , underweight , overtrained......whatever.....he wasn't weightdrained. he was supposedly at 150 weeks before the fight.

Somebody who understands the concept of water weight and how people can rehydrate... a rarity on these boards. You missed the bit where I asked to explain Oscar , thats the most extreme case only because we know the numbers , most fights you do get to see the numbers ,,, Come on smart ass tell me how to make weight , starting from a week out and then tell me what you do over the the last 24 hours ?

it's called water weight. he's not cutting fat or muscle. How do you know this? Seems like Tony is down to his last now, cutting more? For sure Tony needs to cut muscle to make 150, it's common sense.

Yeah fans do think lots of crap , fighters trainers and people inside the sport know that a few pounds under your threshold will hurt you badly . You answered your own claim of knowing what your talking about ,,, you think CW is pointless in this lol , Roach obviously dont I wonder why lol Sigh... you clearly don't know much about boxing if all you can say is is "why are they doing it then". If you knew that fighters can cut like 15 pounds in water weight and rehydrate at a pound per hour then you would understand. There is 30 hours to rehydrate.

Somebody who understands the concept of water weight and how people can rehydrate... a rarity on these boards. man ,what these boxers do is nothing. i had a high school friend who was all city. he would walk around at 140 or so and he wrestled at like 101 and before that 93.

to reiterate... 30 hours to rehydrate lol. i find it funny that so called knowlegable boxing fans are making an issue about marg being 154 a week before the weigh in and wondering how he's gonna make 150.

unless marg doesn't make the weight initially and has to spend a few hours to lose a couple of pounds......it's not an issue. these guys are pros. they know how to dehydrate and cut weight. Somebody who understands the concept of water weight and how people can rehydrate... a rarity on these boards.

Mental disadvantage to Margarito. To be quite frank, I think the catchweight is pointless. Real boxing fans know that 4 pounds makes **** all difference with 30 hours almost to rehydrate. Yeah fans do think lots of crap , fighters trainers and people inside the sport know that a few pounds under your threshold will hurt you badly . You answered your own claim of knowing what your talking about ,,, you think CW is pointless in this lol , Roach obviously dont I wonder why lol

It's not an issue. Marg's a career welter. unless marg doesn't make the weight initially and has to spend a few hours to lose a couple of pounds......it's not an issue. these guys are pros. they know how to dehydrate and cut weight.