Someone justify in this thread how margarito will be weight drained at 150

The only reason I think Margarito has a chance is due to the size difference. I mean Shane could push around Margarito. I don't think Manny can do that. That is how Shane won. Manny cannot win that way. Manny will have to fight smart. It is all about styles and size. Shane didn't win by pushing Margarito around - I mean, nothing Shane did stopped Margarito from coming forward. Except the bombs he kept landing on his jaw. And by the sixth, Margarito had taken one too many. Same thing will happen here. i got over the whole size differential thing when I saw Pacquiao languishing on the ropes, inviting Cotto to hit him while doing his best to hide his smirk.

Well if he wasn't drained against Shane and simply got his ass kicked then why is he getting this fight again? $60 for a tuneup? Pass. The only reason I think Margarito has a chance is due to the size difference. I mean Shane could push around Margarito. I don't think Manny can do that. That is how Shane won. Manny cannot win that way. Manny will have to fight smart. It is all about styles and size.

He might go in there and be relentless. His last fight could have been a result of inactivity or possibly because he never really looked good when he fought at 154. At 154 he always seems to lose his edge. That could still be an issue for him. As you said there are so many intangibles. Cutting down to 150 may actually help him. It may be detrimental or he may just be an old fighter now. Even after tomorrow, if he loses we may not know. We can all speculate of course. Saying he was drained against Mosley though I refuse to agree with. It was a likely excuse and I refuse to take away the shine of Shane's good win late in his own career. Shane earned it by tearing him up. I guess I am just tired of the excuse game. Well if he wasn't drained against Shane and simply got his ass kicked then why is he getting this fight again? $60 for a tuneup? Pass.

Really? He's past his prime and was sucking himself to make weight for a long time. I think the combination will hurt him. Hopefully not. One thing I've learned in boxing though is to go with your first instinct. Because all the BS and publicity will get to you and affect you later. And my first instinct when this fight was signed was...wipeout. At 154, against a journeyman, he looked mediocre. At 147 against an elite fighter, he was destroyed. Freddie Roach said it best: I saw your last two fights. Then to put a catchweight on top of it? Good night. I was actually a huge fan of Margarito and a small part of me wants him to redeem himself. But this is his payout. He'll realize this by round five as he's huffing and puffing around. Then he'll fully understand why he was asked to come down to 150; why they brought a 24x24 foot ring; why Laurence Cole is the ref...and why Ariza is snickering. He might go in there and be relentless. His last fight could have been a result of inactivity or possibly because he never really looked good when he fought at 154. At 154 he always seems to lose his edge. That could still be an issue for him. As you said there are so many intangibles. Cutting down to 150 may actually help him. It may be detrimental or he may just be an old fighter now. Even after tomorrow, if he loses we may not know. We can all speculate of course. Saying he was drained against Mosley though I refuse to agree with. It was a likely excuse and I refuse to take away the shine of Shane's good win late in his own career. Shane earned it by tearing him up. I guess I am just tired of the excuse game.

Yeah, we won't know until tomorrow. I can't even count how many times guys looked ripped at the weigh in and got tired quickly, or looked flabby and fought 12 grueling rounds. Sometimes looks can be deceiving. Exactly. We will see during the weigh in how sucked in he looks. Even then, some fighters can rehydrate and show no worse for wear. Some cannot get their electrolyte balance back and fall apart.

I am sure Tony will have to shed some water weight to make the 150 limit. The question is will it hurt him during fight time? I am not sure. He does not have to cut as much as he used to, so he may end up fine. From the last pics I saw of him he still seems to sweat well and doesn;t look all sucked in, which is a good sign. Really? He's past his prime and was sucking himself to make weight for a long time. I think the combination will hurt him. Hopefully not. One thing I've learned in boxing though is to go with your first instinct. Because all the BS and publicity will get to you and affect you later. And my first instinct when this fight was signed was...wipeout. At 154, against a journeyman, he looked mediocre. At 147 against an elite fighter, he was destroyed. Freddie Roach said it best: I saw your last two fights. Then to put a catchweight on top of it? Good night. I was actually a huge fan of Margarito and a small part of me wants him to redeem himself. But this is his payout. He'll realize this by round five as he's huffing and puffing around. Then he'll fully understand why he was asked to come down to 150; why they brought a 24x24 foot ring; why Laurence Cole is the ref...and why Ariza is snickering.

True. We shall see although, quite frankly, I didn't need Ariza to tell me that. Tony has been at 147 since he was 18 and was struggling to make it the last couple years. He came back at 154 for a reason. Further, he tried his best to get an edge with the catchweight, asking for 151. There is no question those last 3-4 pounds will be a serious issue. Ariza wasn't observing (these things should be obvious to everyone but the sheeple)...he was taunting. I am sure Tony will have to shed some water weight to make the 150 limit. The question is will it hurt him during fight time? I am not sure. He does not have to cut as much as he used to, so he may end up fine. From the last pics I saw of him he still seems to sweat well and doesn;t look all sucked in, which is a good sign.

Like I already said, who knows the motivation on why he said it. All we know for certain is that he is talking sh|t. That is all that matters. True. We shall see although, quite frankly, I didn't need Ariza to tell me that. Tony has been at 147 since he was 18 and was struggling to make it the last couple years. He came back at 154 for a reason. Further, he tried his best to get an edge with the catchweight, asking for 151. There is no question those last 3-4 pounds will be a serious issue. Ariza wasn't observing (these things should be obvious to everyone but the sheeple)...he was taunting.

Increasing Pac's confidence by telling the public Tony is weight drained certainly doesn't help, talking out of a** or not. Like I already said, who knows the motivation on why he said it. All we know for certain is that he is talking sh|t. That is all that matters.

It depends on the angle. He could be trying to increase Pac's confidence. Perhaps even trying to undermine all the pre-fight confidence coming from the Margarito camp. There could be a lot of reasons why he said it. One thing is for certain though, he did not say it because he is "in the know". He said it because he was talking out of his a$$. Increasing Pac's confidence by telling the public Tony is weight drained certainly doesn't help, talking out of a** or not.

Yeah except that doesn't hype the fight at all - it lessens the matchup. It depends on the angle. He could be trying to increase Pac's confidence. Perhaps even trying to undermine all the pre-fight confidence coming from the Margarito camp. There could be a lot of reasons why he said it. One thing is for certain though, he did not say it because he is "in the know". He said it because he was talking out of his a$$.

It's good to see Ariza is Margarito's conditioning coach and nutritionist also. Trash and Hype talk is not necessarily True Talk! Yeah except that doesn't hype the fight at all - it lessens the matchup.

According to Ariza, he's already drained. It's good to see Ariza is Margarito's conditioning coach and nutritionist also. Trash and Hype talk is not necessarily True Talk!

When it comes to Pac opponents his critics just love to talk about pacs opponents being weight drained even if they arent.

a guy who has fought at 147 in 7 of his last 8 fights :rofl: did he kill himself at the pwill fight where he weighed 145? According to Ariza, he's already drained.

A fighter or his opponent will never admit he is weight drained (whether it is true or not) before a fight. duh.....nonsense post!

u didnt bother to look...if u dont wanna look then dont. but dont act like its not there...they said basically the same thing jeff said. jeff said margo will be weightdrained which is thre reason why he thinks pac kos him......that is far from what khan and ariza said!.....

where did they say margo will be weightdrained?.....i di'nt hear or see it! u didnt bother to look...if u dont wanna look then dont. but dont act like its not there...they said basically the same thing jeff said.

where did they say margo will be weightdrained?.....i di'nt hear or see it! A fighter or his opponent will never admit he is weight drained (whether it is true or not) before a fight.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/leave-it-in-the-ring/2010/11/05/special-guest-alex-ariza-nonito-doniareand-mark-munoz-thats ariza talking http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=32629- and thats khan saying the exact same thing about him peaking physically too early. where did they say margo will be weightdrained?.....i di'nt hear or see it!