Why is it when Floyd outsells Manny in PPVs, Pac fans say PPVs don't matter. But Manny selling 50/60k $5.00 seats means something?
Floyd is my 2nd fav active fighter, #3 is Manny but this is crazy. I notice when Manny has a fight comming up, majority of Floyd fans don't pray it flops (Hell they admit they will buy or even watch it) Manny fans pray for the man to fail....
I understand not liking the mans "Money May" act. But you gotta admit, there is a double standard here.
Whats sad is that PPV numbers are even argued about. The only ones who should be concerned is those who profit from it. Why would a fan be concerned at all?
When I choose to watch a PPV, the only thing that myself, family, and guests are concerned about is to have a good time. UMMM, youmissed the point I think..
funny..they boycott and petiton floyd fights..floyd fans actually watch manny ifhgt and talk boxing,..when floyd fights ppvs dont matter..yet look at all the threads talking about how many ppv'smanny and margo will do..
larry did you know talking about manny and floyd is still talking about boxing right?
stop thinking highly of yourself, saying **** like your above other posters just because you a fan of a "pure" "slick" boxer :haha:
Whats sad is that PPV numbers are even argued about. The only ones who should be concerned is those who profit from it. Why would a fan be concerned at all?
When I choose to watch a PPV, the only thing that myself, family, and guests are concerned about is to have a good time.
Your right, Floyd sells more than Manny but the numbers they do are so far ahead of anyone else they are definately in the same class. People here were trying to justify 60/40 in favor of Floyd and IMO, he doesn't sell enough more to justify anything higher than a slight favor.
I reckon if Margo Pac does well PPV the split should be 48,49 to 51,52 Floyds way , if it does bad then 55-45 maybe , 60/40 is rediculas and maybe put out there publicly but it wont get passed first base in the negotiation .
But people got to realize this is a business because the layers negotiating sure do ,, the money generating power of a fighter in relation to his opponent will definetly call the shots on purse splits , I would happy as can be if Floyd agreed once again to 50/50 but I dont think he will unless the weeks fight does real big PPV numbers .
So you're saying the "PPV don't matter" argument is not relavent to the split?
So Ricky/Cotto/Clottey/Marg all went 50/50 with Manny? If not, why? I'll tell you why, Manny sells more than those guys.
So the argument is valid. I'm siure if the numbers were the other way around, Manny fans would Manny deserved a bigger split (If you deny that, I'd have to call you a lie)..
I admit they are equal as stars in the sport, but it's clear that one generates more numbers than the other (Thats no swipe at Manny, but it's true).
I could care less about the split, it's the double standards.
Your right, Floyd sells more than Manny but the numbers they do are so far ahead of anyone else they are definately in the same class. People here were trying to justify 60/40 in favor of Floyd and IMO, he doesn't sell enough more to justify anything higher than a slight favor.
I like his reply instead of your weak azz opinion.
2nd flomo to bring nothing to the discussion. :dunce:
Really brought alot to the discussion, really enlightening of you. Thanks for playing.
Sorry, didn't realize this was a flomo circle jerk, I'll be leaving now.
I like his reply instead of your weak azz opinion.
Usually that "PPV don't matter" argument is when Floyd/stans claiming how much more he sells, deserving obscene splits. Nobody but these two can pull the numbers they do and in the big picture, they're equals.
There are many, many Floyd flans saying this fight will only do 500k, boycotts, cheating accusations, etc, etc. Don't even play like Floyd fans don't do that ****, there just happens to be less Floyd fans here.
Double standard is liking a guy for saying "**** you fans, you ain't ****." So you're saying the "PPV don't matter" argument is not relavent to the split?
So Ricky/Cotto/Clottey/Marg all went 50/50 with Manny? If not, why? I'll tell you why, Manny sells more than those guys.
So the argument is valid. I'm siure if the numbers were the other way around, Manny fans would Manny deserved a bigger split (If you deny that, I'd have to call you a lie)..
I admit they are equal as stars in the sport, but it's clear that one generates more numbers than the other (Thats no swipe at Manny, but it's true).
I could care less about the split, it's the double standards.
Straight Pactard what else is new? These idiots are hopeless...
Really brought alot to the discussion, really enlightening of you. Thanks for playing.
Sorry, didn't realize this was a flomo circle jerk, I'll be leaving now.
2 fights outta 50+ were guys Floyd has fight. This will be the 3rd man Floyd refused to fight while being at WW (Cotto, Clottey, and now Marg). Rather see someone fight a beat man than not fight at all.
Pac has titles/lineals in more weight classes than FLoyd even without the catchweight fights.
Straight Pactard what else is new? These idiots are hopeless...
2 fights outta 50+ were guys Floyd has fight. This will be the 3rd man Floyd refused to fight while being at WW (Cotto, Clottey, and now Marg). Rather see someone fight a beat man than not fight at all.
Pac has titles/lineals in more weight classes than FLoyd even without the catchweight fights.
I mean creating fights for belts at max weights that never really existed in the weight class is absurd. Still stands.
Also comparisons are moot because Pac was brutally KOed twice, has a draw and a couple of questionable wins....not to mention these made up weights to gain a belt in weight class that all other fighters have to abide to but not Pac.
nobody loves Floyd! :crying::crying: Whats love got to do, got to do with it?
If you can't admit or man up to what you see then how can people take what you say seriously? If you base your love for this sport on your love for a single fighter, you're not a fan of the sport.
i give credit where it's due, but i won't discredit a man cause I don't like him.. But most Manny fans do this.
If you want to sit around, suck and stroke Mannys lil pee pee then why not spend all your time on the PacLand website?
I have yet to see a Manny fan call Freddy/Arum or Manny out for the (I won't say lies) mistruths they've spewd.
PPVs only seem to matter before the fights, but after Floyd smashes on Manny then they don't matter...
Sure Floyd throws it in peoples faces WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much, but why do you read the artcles or watch the vidos?
i think like the other guy said "You hold Floyd to a higher standard" you know he's better so you expect more of him. But you hater it at the same time...
I like both fighters but Floyd is the man and its hard for Pac fans to accept it.
Floyd is the cash cow...Pac is probably second.
Floyd out sells Pac. Pac again Second.
Floyd beats a fighter then Pac beats them.
Most talk about Pac championships in different weight classes but most know that a couple of those "weights" were to give Pac an advantage.
I mean creating fights for belts at max weights that never really existed in the weight class is absurd.
2 fights outta 50+ were guys Floyd has fight. This will be the 3rd man Floyd refused to fight while being at WW (Cotto, Clottey, and now Marg). Rather see someone fight a beat man than not fight at all.
Pac has titles/lineals in more weight classes than FLoyd even without the catchweight fights.
Why is it when Floyd outsells Manny in PPVs, Pac fans say PPVs don't matter. But Manny selling 50/60k $5.00 seats means something?
Floyd is my 2nd fav active fighter, #3 is Manny but this is crazy. I notice when Manny has a fight comming up, majority of Floyd fans don't pray it flops (Hell they admit they will buy or even watch it) Manny fans pray for the man to fail....
I understand not liking the mans "Money May" act. But you gotta admit, there is a double standard here.
Usually that "PPV don't matter" argument is when Floyd/stans claiming how much more he sells, deserving obscene splits. Nobody but these two can pull the numbers they do and in the big picture, they're equals.
There are many, many Floyd flans saying this fight will only do 500k, boycotts, cheating accusations, etc, etc. Don't even play like Floyd fans don't do that ****, there just happens to be less Floyd fans here.
Double standard is liking a guy for saying "**** you fans, you ain't ****."
I like both fighters but Floyd is the man and its hard for Pac fans to accept it.
Floyd is the cash cow...Pac is probably second.
Floyd out sells Pac. Pac again Second.
Floyd beats a fighter then Pac beats them.
Most talk about Pac championships in different weight classes but most know that a couple of those "weights" were to give Pac an advantage.
I mean creating fights for belts at max weights that never really existed in the weight class is absurd.
I hope Manny Marg does really well PPV , because if it doesnt Floyd will want a lot bigger slice of the pie if they fight and Manny has always been the type that will walk over money , Manny was walking with Hatton over 1% or something , Floyd wont go 50/50 again unless Manny does GREAT numbers with Margo .
Double standards are everywhere concerning Floyd , he is always held to ransom on a word yet Manny can do anything and they turn a blind eye . .
what pisses me off is that people love to switch from which fighter will win after that fighter wins a fight e.g pac beats cotto everyones like yeah pac would wreck mayweather then mayweather beats jmm everyones like actually mayweathers footwork and his jab would dominate pac then pac completely dominates clotty everyones like yeah pac would put too much pressure on mayweather then mayweather beats shanes ass floyd's too smart for pac. i give up with this i like them both but seriously they piss me off