Top 5 Heavyweights of All Time

Ali Lewis Marciano Tyson Foreman

Ali Holmes Louis Lewis Johnson Foreman Holyfield Marciano Liston Frazier

1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Foreman 4. Frazier 5. Holyfield It's hard to put it down to 5. Jack Johnson, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, and Larry Holmes all deserve it too in my opinion. The top 5 Heavyweights will always differ, but I think the biggest debate is Ali vs Louis in terms of their entire career, impacts on boxing, and the world around them at the time.

1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Larry Holmes 4. George Foreman, 5. Jack Johnson 6. Evander Holyfield 7. Lennox Lewis That first 5 seems to be the general consensus, in varied orders. I agree and I think it will be very difficult for any contemporary heavyweight to be a part of this discussion.

1. Ali 2. Louis 3. J. Johnson 4. Foreman 5. Holmes

1: Joe Louis 2: M. Ali 3: Larry Holmes 4: George Foreman 5: Lennox Lewis

Funny thing is, that win against Norton was bigger than any win either of your gods ever had. :lol1: now I can see why you dismissed this nutcase.

Head to head? I think thats how we are doing cause some clown put Shavers on their list. Shavers belongs in the top 10 overhyped heavyweights of all time along with Tua, Ibeabuchi, and Ali. Shavers was bad, dude in his prime lost to Bob Stallings, a fighter with a losing record. Wow, he beat 83 year old Ken Norton and he got robbed against Parkinsons riddled Ali. Shavers...top 10...hilarious. Dude was a club fighter who never won anything. He beat china chinned kenny norton. Top 5 H2H ATG HW's 1. Wlad 2. Vitali 3. Lennox 4. Bowe 5. Tyson Thats just the facts. Funny thing is, that win against Norton was bigger than any win either of your gods ever had.

Head to head? I think thats how we are doing cause some clown put Shavers on their list. Shavers belongs in the top 10 overhyped heavyweights of all time along with Tua, Ibeabuchi, and Ali. Shavers was bad, dude in his prime lost to Bob Stallings, a fighter with a losing record. Wow, he beat 83 year old Ken Norton and he got robbed against Parkinsons riddled Ali. Shavers...top 10...hilarious. Dude was a club fighter who never won anything. He beat china chinned kenny norton. Top 5 H2H ATG HW's 1. Wlad 2. Vitali 3. Lennox 4. Bowe 5. Tyson Thats just the facts.

1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Joe Louis 4. Goerge Foreman 5. Larry Holmes cmon haters :)

1. Klitschko 2. Klitschko 3. Lewis 4. Ali 5. Foreman 6. Marciano 7. Holmes 8. Louis 9. Dempsey 10. Holyfield klitschkoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.joe louis 2.cassius clay 3.foreman 4.Marciano 5.Holmes

1st thing. both of these guys lost to journeymen at some point. you can't compare how many journeymen these guys lost to because shavers has like 20 more fights then quarry. as far as chins go. you keep saying that shavers got knocked out how ever many times but jerry has been knocked out 6 times vs shavers 7. but shavers has 20 more fights then jerry so the risk naturally is higher for shavers. NOT a fair comparison. now i know that doesn't determine the hardest chins alone but it gives you something to think about. you can't just claim that jerry is better then shavers all because he knocked out shavers in the 1st round. who knows WHAT that rematch would have looked like? who knows if that wasn't just a lucky 1st round knock out. thats like me saying since shavers knocked out norton & norton knocked out jerry. that means shavers is automatically greater then jerry. also you have to mention how both fighters DID against their greatest opponents. shavers greatest opponents were ali holmes norton & jerry. shavers took ali to HELL, shavers took holmes to HELL. shavers knocked out norton. but suffered a 1st round knock out defeat to jerry. jerrys greatest opponents were fraizer ali norton & shavers. jerry of course knocked out shavers but was knocked out by the other 3. OPEN AND CLOSED CASE...... I disagree with you but respect your opinion on their comp and how things played or might have played out. Im gonna post a poll in the history section. Come check it out and vote and maybe we can continue this over there as well as getting some other educated opinions. i have shavers as my number 10 because i feel he was a really good talent. A underrated talent. He was, but that should get him ranked above more accomplished fighters, should it?

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WAIT A SEC. you have guys in this very thread putting wlad in their top 10 ATG list & you take heat with me for putting SHAVERS as number 10 in MY list? ARE MY EYES DECEIVING ME? jerry quarry GREATER then shavers? hahahahahaha!!! quarry may have beat shavers but he wasn't greater then shavers. shavers knocked out norton. took holmes to the limit. & gave ali ALL he could handle. quarry beat shavers. thats it. shavers actually gave his greatest opponents a run for their money. in quarrys case he never came close to giving A guy like ali a run for his money. shavers has a lot of knock out losses because he would fight any & everyone. & the heavyweight division back then was DEEP DEEP with talent. shavers also stayed in the sport too long. the fool started off fighting in the 60's & retired in 95 smh looking back @ my list i forgot johnson. Guys putting either Klitschko in their top 10 at this point aren't even worth responding to. Shavers 5 biggest wins were Ellis, Roy Williams, Norton, a 7-3 Jimmy Young and Joe Bugner. Quarry's biggest wins were Patterson, Foster, Lyle, Mathis and Shavers. Advantage Quarry. Shaver 5 notable losses were Quarry, Stallings, Lyle, Ali and Holmes. Quarry's were Norton, Ali, Frazier, Chuvalo and Ellis. This is a bit closer but Shavers loss to journeyman Stallings clearly stands out. Giving the advantage again (jmo) to Quarry. Quarry also never had a problem with stamina and had a much more durable chin. Combine that with his ko of Shavers and he should clearly be ranked ahead of Earnie in my opinion. Either way Shavers doesn't belong near the top 10, my friend.

WAIT A SEC. you have guys in this very thread putting wlad in their top 10 ATG list & you take heat with me for putting SHAVERS as number 10 in MY list? ARE MY EYES DECEIVING ME? jerry quarry GREATER then shavers? hahahahahaha!!! quarry may have beat shavers but he wasn't greater then shavers. shavers knocked out norton. took holmes to the limit. & gave ali ALL he could handle. quarry beat shavers. thats it. shavers actually gave his greatest opponents a run for their money. in quarrys case he never came close to giving A guy like ali a run for his money. shavers has a lot of knock out losses because he would fight any & everyone. & the heavyweight division back then was DEEP DEEP with talent. shavers also stayed in the sport too long. the fool started off fighting in the 60's & retired in 95 smh looking back @ my list i forgot johnson. Yeah Earnie got caught, simple as that. I would pick Earnie 2 out of 3 against Quarry, Quarry got that one. He came out cocky and started getting very very sloppy looking for a one round KO and got wasted. Shavers best was when he was fighting the best though, that extra motivation. ALi, Holmes, and Norton Shavers probably beats the likes of Wlad, post prison Tyson, and the like. Not so sure about Vitali.

it is not Shavers who is the joke the joke is to put him in a top 10 AT hw I suggest you take a look at Boxingscene rankings AT, it will give you an idea of what a good ranking looks like... Problem is that alot of the lists here include Tyson, Wlad, and Vitali in the top 5...ridiculous nut hugging is rampant here.

how is shavers a joke? i think prime shavers would beat any current heavyweight of today including both klits..... shavers was probably the hardest hitting heavyweight in the history of the sport...... VERY UNDERRATED. Shavers was a good fighter and a murderous puncher but besides Norton he lost every other big fight he was in as well as to some sub par fighters. Jerry Quarry was a much better second tier fighter from that era and surely ranks higher all time than "The acorn". No disrespect, but Shavers doesn't belong anywhere near an all time top ten list unless the topic is punching power.

1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Larry Holmes 4. George Foreman, 5. Jack Johnson 6. Evander Holyfield 7. Lennox Lewis

1. Louis 2. Ali 3. Holmes 4. Johnson 5. Lewis 6. Foreman 7. Tyson 8. Liston 9. Holyfield 10. Marciano 11. Dempsey 12. Frazier