I'm so tired of reading all these idiotic threads claiming that this fight is fixed so Pacquaio can't lose. That makes no sense when you analyze it. First of all, the amount of money Margarito would make in his future fights if he were to win far exceeds what Arum (or whoever else) could possibly afford to pay him. Second, throughout boxing history there is one main reason fights have been fixed. That would be to make money betting on the underdog. Nobody is going to make big money gambling on Pacquaio. You could cash in very nicely betting on the heavy underdog here. Finally, if Margarito wins an exciting fight, the rematch would be HUGE. Don't tell me that Arum is protecting Pac for the mega fight with Mayweather. That fight has already failed to happen twice, and there are plenty of bad feeling with both sides. Not to mention that Floyd has some felony issues to deal with.
If Pacquaio wins big, what else is there for him? Nothing that would even come close to a rematch with the man who just beat him. Don't pretend that Manny is going to fight the Williams-Martinez winner. That just isn't happening for a number of reasons. As a disclaimer, I'm not saying that if Margarito wins the fight was fixed. But I am saying if the fight really is fixed, then Margarito wins. Think about it.
LOL you've got to be kidding... if the fight is fixed.. Manny will have to be on it. Because this fight will be so one-sided that if the decision goes to Margarito, it will be blatantly obvious. Even if Margarito beats Manny, he's not a big PPV attraction, Manny has already stated that he has a few fights left in him - he will still make TONS of money even if he doesn't fight Mayweather. Your logic is flawed and incredibly stupid beyond comprehension. The fight isn't fixed, but it will be one-sided, why do you think Arum did so much to make this fight happen? Margarito next cash cow... Good one. If he beats Manny.. bring on Mosley again so he can KO him again.
From the beginning of the thread I said that this fight isn't fixed. And if you don't think a popular Mexican coming off a huge win can't be a cash cow, then I understand your comprehension problem. If Margarito wins, a rematch will be made and be twice as big as this fight.
LOL you've got to be kidding... if the fight is fixed.. Manny will have to be on it. Because this fight will be so one-sided that if the decision goes to Margarito, it will be blatantly obvious. Even if Margarito beats Manny, he's not a big PPV attraction, Manny has already stated that he has a few fights left in him - he will still make TONS of money even if he doesn't fight Mayweather. Your logic is flawed and incredibly stupid beyond comprehension. The fight isn't fixed, but it will be one-sided, why do you think Arum did so much to make this fight happen? Margarito next cash cow... Good one. If he beats Manny.. bring on Mosley again so he can KO him again.
Scott9945 is a minion of satan.
He thinks we don't notice but we do.
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That's Scott999.
Then you invert the 9's and you get 666.
Its really Scott666, he's just trying to be clever about it, like all of satan's minions.
You can't hide from me Scott. Gonna be moar suspicious.
I've been exposed! :firedevil
The Mayweather fight is up to Bob , he could have had it in March but Bob and Pac walked out on 14 days ,,,,, if Bob agrees to Floyds full OST and the purse is hashed out the fight will happen its up to Bob , so he does have a guarantee because its up to him .
Golden Boy Promotions disagrees with you :lol1:
I heard David Stern is going to fix the NBA season so the Nets and Lakers are in the finals and then he's going to pay off the Nets to make sure they throw the series, despite the Lakers being picked by virtually everyone to win that matchup and them being 30-1 betting favorites.
you have to admit is at least suspicious the way Toprank went out of their way to make the Margarito fight happen after his license was rejected even going as far as threatening to fight in Monterey Mexico if he is not licence.
almost as if he was chosen and handpicked by Toprank for a reason
I see what you're saying but you can also look at it the other way. Maybe Arum wants another Top rank fighter with a lot of followers like Marg to beat Manny??
With all the hype the Mayweather fight will happen no matter what.. even if Pac losses.
Scott9945 is a minion of satan.
He thinks we don't notice but we do.
9 9
4+5=9
That's Scott999.
Then you invert the 9's and you get 666.
Its really Scott666, he's just trying to be clever about it, like all of satan's minions.
You can't hide from me Scott. Gonna be moar suspicious.
So the excuse for Tony getting brutalized is not weight draining or being shot, but this time it's a 'fixed' fight, an elaborate scheme between Arum and DLH to engineer a win for a 6-1 favorite. They are going out of their way, risking their reputations as well as their freedom (could face jail time if caught) so they can make it so the guy everyone expects to win easily does so. Ingenious. :pat:
I wonder what the average IQ is of the posters here.
I'm so tired of reading all these idiotic threads claiming that this fight is fixed so Pacquaio can't lose. That makes no sense when you analyze it. First of all, the amount of money Margarito would make in his future fights if he were to win far exceeds what Arum (or whoever else) could possibly afford to pay him. Second, throughout boxing history there is one main reason fights have been fixed. That would be to make money betting on the underdog. Nobody is going to make big money gambling on Pacquaio. You could cash in very nicely betting on the heavy underdog here. Finally, if Margarito wins an exciting fight, the rematch would be HUGE. Don't tell me that Arum is protecting Pac for the mega fight with Mayweather. That fight has already failed to happen twice, and there are plenty of bad feeling with both sides. Not to mention that Floyd has some felony issues to deal with.
If Pacquaio wins big, what else is there for him? Nothing that would even come close to a rematch with the man who just beat him. Don't pretend that Manny is going to fight the Williams-Martinez winner. That just isn't happening for a number of reasons. As a disclaimer, I'm not saying that if Margarito wins the fight was fixed. But I am saying if the fight really is fixed, then Margarito wins. Think about it.
i have to agree with your assessment plus may i add, if such are fixed it would be strategically and logically and "should" be in favor of margs. business wise that is the most sensible of all plans arum can and will do as "diabolical" as he is. LOL, being as it may, he can put cotto in the equation. it will be all in house, what can be better than that? margs can rematch cotto or pacquiao, or cotto can rematch pacquiao or margs or arum can go all the way and make what we call "carambola" the three of them in 1 fight WWE style, the last man standing wins. (tongue in cheek) who needs floyd? do you think how much PPV would that generate?
you have to admit is at least suspicious the way Toprank went out of their way to make the Margarito fight happen after his license was rejected even going as far as threatening to fight in Monterey Mexico if he is not licence.
almost as if he was chosen and handpicked by Toprank for a reason
What other Top Rank fighter brings in more PPV sales with Pacquiao? Right or wrong, it seems apparent that Arum wants to promote both parties. That's why he turned to Margarito five minutes after the Mayweather fight was dead.
Summing it up, no matter who wins Top Rank promotes the winner. So with no real option (other than a not in demand Cotto rematch) for the promoter, I think the agenda is too transparent to even be called suspicious. It's a position that every promoter wants to be in.
That fight is a money tree. If it could have been made, it would have already. These OST demands are just a BS negotiating ploy by Mayweather. They've failed to get the fight done twice when it would never have been hotter. Arum would have to be a fool to count on it happening next year, especially now that Floyd and his trainer are going on trial.
hahahahah so because puckiao runs away from blood tests it becomes a ploy from Mayweather?
He's openly ducked margarita and Cotto in the past, if he wanted to duck pacquiao, he would have done the same. He wouldn't get involved in the negotiations, and agree to pacquiao's demands only to then come up with a demand that he 'knew' pacquiao would not agree to. I guess Mayweather comes from a long line of psychics..
I don't think this fight is fixed either. But some resentful Mayweather fans are claiming otherwise to minimize Pacquaio's win.
There's always some new excuse from Floyd groupies, they're holdin on to this excuse now.
you don't have to be a Mayweather fan to think so..
you have to admit is at least suspicious the way Toprank went out of their way to make the Margarito fight happen after his license was rejected even going as far as threatening to fight in Monterey Mexico if he is not licence.
almost as if he was chosen and handpicked by Toprank for a reason
I'm so tired of reading all these idiotic threads claiming that this fight is fixed so Pacquaio can't lose. That makes no sense when you analyze it. First of all, the amount of money Margarito would make in his future fights if he were to win far exceeds what Arum (or whoever else) could possibly afford to pay him. Second, throughout boxing history there is one main reason fights have been fixed. That would be to make money betting on the underdog. Nobody is going to make big money gambling on Pacquaio. You could cash in very nicely betting on the heavy underdog here. Finally, if Margarito wins an exciting fight, the rematch would be HUGE. Don't tell me that Arum is protecting Pac for the mega fight with Mayweather. That fight has already failed to happen twice, and there are plenty of bad feeling with both sides. Not to mention that Floyd has some felony issues to deal with.
If Pacquaio wins big, what else is there for him? Nothing that would even come close to a rematch with the man who just beat him. Don't pretend that Manny is going to fight the Williams-Martinez winner. That just isn't happening for a number of reasons. As a disclaimer, I'm not saying that if Margarito wins the fight was fixed. But I am saying if the fight really is fixed, then Margarito wins. Think about it.
I disagree. Bob gets wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more money out of a Pac vs Mayweather fight, followed by a rematch, followed by a rubber match then he would ever make from Tony fighting Pac twice and rematching Cotto... and then fighting Khan, and then Cotto again, and then Foreman again, and then Cotto again or however Bob would work his lame ass in house bull****. Bob knows that Manny may be tired of Boxing and needs to milk him for all he can before Manny calls it a day. That road leads to Mayweather. That fight wont happen if Tony wins. That said, I dont think the fight is fixed, if only because even Bob knows Tony has no chance. Tony is yet another come forward, no defense, slow as ****, coming off a loss (in his last real fight) Arum fighter for Manny to beat and look great against.
The fight is FIXED, in Pac's favor.
But, yes, Margarito will win, if he "throws" the fight, because he'll get $6 Million plus PPV % with culd total more than $10-11 Million, + he Oscar will get him licensed in the US year after year.
So, yeah, Margarito has lots gain, if he "throws" the fight, and lets Pac win, cause Pac has big money fights ahead of hims vs Floyd, Chavez Jr. and Marquez a 3rd time.
so because he has a big purse is reason to throw the fight?
brilliant.
So seeing as you hang so much weight on IF , what IF Margo loses and is a plodder and throws very little compared to his normal work rate , what then ,,, let me guess Pac was just to good ,,, lol
Your other post about a May fight , Team Pac says YES they have it , its them saying NO to whats on the table as to why its not happened the fukers are trying to accept something they already said NO to is nothing more than a publicity stunt , thats the joke in this , its Pac saying NO deal and trying to make a case in the media , just say YES for real instead of lying to everybody publicly that you agreed just so he can run of and fight an inhouse cheater WTF ,,, gimme a break kid for christ sake look at everything !
Yes, if Margarito loses it will be because Pac was too good. Is that really a difficult concept to grasp?
Mayweather put these unprecedented conditions on the table to try and kill the fight. Pacquiao makes multi millions in his fights and doesn't have to bend over to anyone. When he agreed to Floyd's previous demands, Mayweather wouldn't even seriously negotiate. Typical Flomo response acting as if Floyd is entitled to more than the Nevada commision requires of any other fighter. Either Mayweather thinks he can beat Pacquiao, or he doesn't. All this testing BS is just a smokescreen to get out of making this fight. Pacquiao allowing up to seven days before the fight is a major concession. Certainly more than he should have had to make.
How you dealing with the reality that most everyone from media to fans agree that Manny wanted the fight and Floyd ducked the fight. Like I said, "coping mechanism to deal with reality."
The majority thought the world was flat , the smartest group is always the smallest number its ruled by nature for every smart guy you must have 10 idiots for it to balance , majority is just a mob of sheep not the wisdom of society .
I see you avoided the Pac lied bit , strange thing to do dont you think , you know , come out and publicly lie so you can justify signing an inhouse cheater , rather than really agreeing and fighting the guy everybody really wants to see you fight ,,,, cant fool you kids though lol
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