Why all the Bute's hate and Ward's lovefest.

Some facts: In june 2007, he win a IBF eliminator fight against Sakio Bika for the IBF #1 contender and obligatory aspirant. In October 2007, he KO Alejandro Berrio in the 11th round to win the IBF SMW title. In February 2008, he win a fight against William Joppy, at that time, it was a good and big fight for Bute, it was his first defence of the title against a 3-times World Champion. In October 2008, he win a controversial fight against Librado Andrade. It was his 2nd defence, against a fighter who is considerate by many a brawler with an iron chin and good work ethic. First of all, I'm biased, its true, but ITS A FACT, if you re-watch the fight, Bute dominated the whole fight AND another FACT, at 7-8 seconds, Bute's glove doesn't touch the floor, even if the count was way too long, Bute was already up, gloves not on the floor, VS Brinkley the refs did the same thing to Brinkley giving him a long count and nobody is whining about that. In March 2009, he win a fight against Zuniga. Its the first fight, that I agree, was a bad fight for Bute, he could have fight a bigger name or a better up and comer, he KO Zuniga in the 4th. In November 2009, he KO Librado Andrade and did knock him down early in the fight, something that was never seen from Andrade before. Bute clearly win this fight, the Andrade-Bute saga needed a rematch and it was clearly a good fight and not cherry picking. In April 2010, he won against Mirdan, he did toyed with Edison pretty quickly in the fight and Bute looked really sharp. Miranda is a big name, some could argue he is a shot fighter, he is still powerful and many many people here on boxingscene said Miranda would win and was too powerful for Bute. Good fight. In October 15, he fights Brinkley, it was a bad fight for Bute, a lot to lose and nothing to win, since Brinkley is a second tier SMW fighter. Lucian Bute only defended his title 6 times, twice vs Andrade which were 2 good fights. We can all say he had 2 out of his 6 defence against lower tier SMW, but a lot of champion had to fight defence of their title against lower class fighter. I don't know we he gets so much crap on here, his fight are entertaining, the doesn't fight like a coward and only clinch-hold all the time. He is active, with power and speed. He is only 30 years old, in good shape, had fight against good boxer, he still have plenty of time to defend his title against bigger name. When they started the Super-6, they didn't wanted to include him in. They said he wasn't a big name enough or good enough.. SO big FU to them after. And to anyone who said he ducked Jean Pascal. Why a SMW fighter, with 6 titles defence, would drop his belt and go up in a heavier division when he didn't fighter for unification yet and can fight bigger name in the 168lbs division. For the whole province of Quebec, its better to get way more hype for the boxing here with 2 World Champion, than juste one, promoters are starting to recognize Montreal has a boxing city, the fight will happens in 2011 or 2012, but right now its not a good thing, the loser of the fight will lose the spotlight and the interest from the local fans.

Comments (20)

Truth is Bute has rarely or never fought in the U.S , he fights B level competition He was shunned by showtime , and almost was knocked out by andrade , that says enough. If Bute gets in to the ring with the likes of Ward,Dirrell,Abraham,Kessler,Pavlik,Froch He loses he would also have trouble with so called "shot" fighters like Taylor So Imo Bute is very much over-rated by Ring, he is no way a top 10 p4p fighter Maybe in the next few fights he can show his true mettle against elite Smw's

15y ago

Carlsson

Depends entirely on the sport. How many top afro american athletes do you see in a swimming pool?? What about a tennis court?? Gymnastics?? Again it depends entirely on the sport. I doubt you will see a white man ever go sub 10 in a 100m sprint. The genetics just aren't there. Blacks of West African origin have lower body fat (genetically) and other physical traits that make them "potentially" better at certain sports. then again i don't think you will ever see a black athlete do what Michael Phelps did in Beijing. i agree with a lot of what you are saying, and if i did'nt know any better i would also have agreed about the sub 10 in a 100 meter sprint part. However, it allready happened, sorry man. http://www.metrolic.com/french-lemaitre-first-white-man-to-run-100m-in-under-10-seconds-5409/

15y ago

Jay_Volcano

After SuperSix will be over, Bute will fight against the winner and probably the other finalist. It's just a matter of time, really.

15y ago

168SMW

1) stfu ur like 13 years old 2) who the fudge is talkin about dawson and pascal? 3) wards biggest asset is his mental strength so he wouldnt be thrown off by other variables like dawson was. 4) lol Wow, the maturity of this board is off the chart. You are 21 years old and act like a tough guy on internet. :wtf1:

15y ago

ShoulderRoll

If an Eastern European won an Olympic gold medal and was undefeated since they were 12 years old we'd never hear the end of it from some of you. But since Ward is American we have to downplay it and not celebrate him for some reason. None of that matters though, if SOG wins the Super 6 then people will have no choice but to acknowledge his greatness and give him his due.

15y ago

Targaryen

Dirrell would beat Bute.

15y ago

SCEN3RY

Why? Maybe b/c he's on a bigger stage, not HBO vs Showtime, but the Super Six itself. Other than that, I dunno why the extra love, or attention....maybe cuz he's American, I didn't wanna play that card, but here in the States it matters (where most of the big fights happen).

15y ago

check_hook

Uh, ok..name your favorite basketball, football, and boxing athlete. Depends entirely on the sport. How many top afro american athletes do you see in a swimming pool?? What about a tennis court?? Gymnastics?? Again it depends entirely on the sport. I doubt you will see a white man ever go sub 10 in a 100m sprint. The genetics just aren't there. Blacks of West African origin have lower body fat (genetically) and other physical traits that make them "potentially" better at certain sports. then again i don't think you will ever see a black athlete do what Michael Phelps did in Beijing.

15y ago

mathed

It's not marketing IT'S TALENT. Madison Ave doesn't make Black people great...blame GOD for that. It's not Black people...or America's fault whites aren't as successful as you WISH they were in boxing. STOP CRYING JETHRO.:rofl: Wow...ok Sanford. I'm merely stating an opinion which is pretty much based on facts. Your opinion is based on me sympathizing with the Beverly Hillbillies...ok I guess you won this one. I could care less if whites are as good as blacks at sports if that is the argument you are trying to make. I'm saying that in America......race is a big part of marketing sports and if you are American, you are proving my point for me. Maybe African Americans are genetically superior to whites, that's not my point. My point is that race is used in the states to make money in athletic markets. So keep your RACIST mentality in check .. :fest30:

15y ago

mathed

Being White never hurt in America. You need to get off the couch.. Uh, ok..name your favorite basketball, football, and boxing athlete.

15y ago

check_hook

Also sitting out the Super Six (whether intentional or not) has proved to be a good move by Bute. He only has to fight the winner to be considered the top dog at 168. In the interim he can continue to take lucrative bouts in Canada while he waits. Also the Super Six has turned into a farce IMO.

15y ago

check_hook

huh??? ward is faster and hes the better all around boxer. if that doesnt work in his favor then i dont kno wat does. As of today i think it's too difficult to tell who the better fighter is. I slightly favour Ward....but i think Bute is a very very dangerous fighter for anyone to be facing.

15y ago

mathed

uhhh kelly pavlik? Making a reference to his comment regarding basketball pickup games. no one cares what you have to say, of course you are gonna be first in line to lap up the nut sweat of your hometown hero, the guy that needs to fight in his hometown to win a fight...it's ok, no need to explain. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

15y ago

oaklandstephen

Yeah, just like Dawson was suppose to cakewalk Pascal ? Didn't happens. Bute is stronger than Ward, bigger than Ward, more powerful, got better footwork and coaching. Anyway, you'll see, Ward is all hype. 13 ****ing KO. He won't have any chance to KO Bute and there is no way Ward can fight 12 rounds eating Bute's uppercut and not being knockdown. 1) stfu ur like 13 years old 2) who the fudge is talkin about dawson and pascal? 3) wards biggest asset is his mental strength so he wouldnt be thrown off by other variables like dawson was. 4) lol

15y ago

oaklandstephen

lol, good one, I am actually pretty good at basketball. I ran track and coaches were always asking me to wrestle. It's pretty easy to see though, how many white boxing "stars" do you know of? In America...none. In other countries, Canada for example, the y have Bute and Lemuiex (however you spell it). Most European countries have nearly 100% white sports stars. Race and the ability to sell race as a commodity is big here in America. Marketing strategies are at play all the time with every single sporting event here in America.."White Men Can't Jump" uhhh kelly pavlik?

15y ago

168SMW

thats cause its that simple. he's just all around better than him at everything aside from the power edge that bute has. and that 1 win against kessler sh*ts all over butes resume. ull find out why a lot of people are crazy about andre once he wins the super six tourney and beats butes a$$. Yeah, just like Dawson was suppose to cakewalk Pascal ? Didn't happens. Bute is stronger than Ward, bigger than Ward, more powerful, got better footwork and coaching. Anyway, you'll see, Ward is all hype. 13 ****ing KO. He won't have any chance to KO Bute and there is no way Ward can fight 12 rounds eating Bute's uppercut and not being knockdown.

15y ago

oaklandstephen

were u always the last one picked for the pickup basketball game at the playground??:no: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

15y ago

oaklandstephen

Really good fighter but Andre Ward is SO much better... Yet nobody can bring any argument. Aside he won a fight against Kessler. Aside being afro-american, I don't see anything in Ward's favor for a fight between those two. thats cause its that simple. he's just all around better than him at everything aside from the power edge that bute has. and that 1 win against kessler sh*ts all over butes resume. ull find out why a lot of people are crazy about andre once he wins the super six tourney and beats butes a$$.

15y ago

168SMW

Save your lovefest with Bute after Ward school's him. Then you can make him feel good after he loses. He can take out his frustrations on your butthole. Real mature. Yet, no argument. I guess when David Lemieux will be at the top of the middleweight, people will call him overrated and hype job too. Since he is a white french Canadian with an Armenian mom's heritage. Its getting old the whole "not black, not latino, then not good"

15y ago

mathed

were u always the last one picked for the pickup basketball game at the playground??:no: lol, good one, I am actually pretty good at basketball. I ran track and coaches were always asking me to wrestle. It's pretty easy to see though, how many white boxing "stars" do you know of? In America...none. In other countries, Canada for example, the y have Bute and Lemuiex (however you spell it). Most European countries have nearly 100% white sports stars. Race and the ability to sell race as a commodity is big here in America. Marketing strategies are at play all the time with every single sporting event here in America.."White Men Can't Jump"

15y ago