I keep hearing Mayweather was the best fighter at 130 ever.
But those 130 fighters don't seem to be on the same level as when Pacquiao, Morales, and barrera were...
I put hamed on there because Floyd has problems with southpaws. Also, he did fight Barrrera
None of those three besides Pacquiao were prime at 130.
If you're telling me Mayweather is a natural 122-126 pounder at the level he fought at 130-135, and he fought prime Barrera and Morales at 122-126, I think he loses to one of them. He would wipe the floor with Pacquiao at 126, and probably Hamed as well.
Any rating is up for debate, Floyd is at or near the top of 130 but that class is pretty deep (not like 135 or 147 but not like 168 either).
The question to me remains how would those guys beat Floyd they are all smaller, slower, less rangy, and much more shop worn. They are great fighters so they wouldn't go out like hoes but really how often to fighters just over come such odds (especially against a fighter who is mentally strong).
I'm sure some might have said this but most of them with the exception of Pacquiao were not prime at 130. Now taking a look at 130 pound Pacquiao vs 130 pound Floyd, Floyd beats pacquiao based on skill, Pac couldn't handle counterpunchers and Mayweather was faster and stronger than JMM at 130.
floyd beats them easily at 130.kevin kellyalmost ko'd hamed.barrera.barrera was ko'd by jr jones,morrales embarrased by raheem,pac outboxed by morrales.all those guys were very beatable
we get it flomos,
Floyd wins every fantasy fight.
Floyd's a beast in fantasy fights.
a beast.You meant to say that Floyd's won all of his fights, and that PAc's been knocked out twice in 3 rounds...AND beaten up by a past prime Morales lol.
Hamed would knock Floyd spark out.
Hamed is 100x the puncher SSM is. If SSM can almost KO him just imagine what the prince would do.
Augie Sanchez beat Mayweather in the amateurs and Hamed got rid of him in 4 rounds.:wtf: lol... You don't consider this a real post do you lol...
I keep hearing Mayweather was the best fighter at 130 ever.
But those 130 fighters don't seem to be on the same level as when Pacquiao, Morales, and barrera were...
I put hamed on there because Floyd has problems with southpaws. Also, he did fight BarrreraFloyd would wipe the floor with all 4. Could PAc beat a prime MAB, Hamed, EM, or Floyd? Hell no.
IMO yes. He would of win decisions against Morales, Barreras and KO Pacquiao and Hamed late on the fight. Floyd does really well against awkward styles.
Hamed would knock Floyd spark out.
Hamed is 100x the puncher SSM is. If SSM can almost KO him just imagine what the prince would do.
Augie Sanchez beat Mayweather in the amateurs and Hamed got rid of him in 4 rounds.
Tons of decorated amateurs end up with mediocre or below average careers (i.e. George Walton from the documentary "On the Ropes"). Some guys who weren't decorated amateurs end up with great careers (i.e. Winky Wright). Amateurs mean nothing when it comes to the pro game.
Hamed took a one sided beating from Barrera. Marquez beat Barrera. Mayweather cruised in a sparring session with Marquez. So using your logic, by virtue, Mayweather would easily beat the brakes off Hamed.
Mayweather doesn't get through 130 versions of:
Pacquiao
Hamed
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
undefeated, it just wouldn't happen. He is arguably better than them all and could beat any one on his day, the but likelyhood of beating that many prime HOF/ATG is extremely low, if we're talking about taking all the fights consequitively, he could have an off night, make a mistake or simply get outworked.
He would beat them all, even if he had to do it "consecutively." Floyd hasn't had an off night in 15 years. Some off rds, but never an off night. What makes you think it would happen at arguably his best weight class and in big fights. His best performances have come in his biggest matches. Corrales, Hernandez, Gatti, Hatton, SSM etc etc.
Mayweather doesn't get through 130 versions of:
Pacquiao
Hamed
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
undefeated, it just wouldn't happen. He is arguably better than them all and could beat any one on his day, the but likelyhood of beating that many prime HOF/ATG is extremely low, if we're talking about taking all the fights consequitively, he could have an off night, make a mistake or simply get outworked.
There you go again with your flomo brain. Floyd CLEARLY won the 3rd round.
He won the third but he did definitely lose the fourth. I don't think you can dispute that, unless you're not watching it with an open mind to what both are doing. Floyd landed a number of good body shots. Judah landed just as many hard head shots and two that visibly hurt Mayweather.
It was a Judah round. Doesn't really matter, apart from theoretically though, as Mayweather ended owning Judah the rest of the fight.
He is allowed to lose a round though. It's not something you need to fight against just because you are a fan. He was adjusting, he lost a few rounds while doing so. Big deal. It's not important because he won the fight.
i'm a huge mayweather fan and he's not better. when you rank fighters you don't rank them on potential but on accomplishments.
So your ranking system is somehow superior to everyone else's who covers boxing?? Please share it with the rest of us who are feeble minded. After all Floyd has spent how many years in the P4P top ten.....and how many at numero uno???
Did they all rank Floyd as P4P based in "potential"???
He may not even be top 10 AT , but Im sure he would whip Manny Barrera Eric and Hamed and he would make it look easy at 130 , he probably stops them all .
I agree on that. I think he beats all of them reasonably easy at 130.
You could also very easily make the case he's not in the top three at all.
He may not even be top 10 AT , but Im sure he would whip Manny Barrera Eric and Hamed and he would make it look easy at 130 , he probably stops them all .
why would it go either way i mean really why? he not only rocks floyd badly but lands more clean punches throughout the round. the guy who was missing most of his punches that round was mayweather. surely hurting your opponent and landing the cleaner punches is better than a couple body shots right?
what clean punches did floyd land upstairs? oh yea none and judah rolled or blocked a lot of his body shot attempts. that "bodyshot" at 1:08 clearly lands on judah's back. is the back a scoring area no. judah dominated the round but your flomo brain is malfunctioning.
judah fought the entire fight on the back foot and was countering floyd silly the first 4 rounds. but as we know judah can't fight more than 4 rounds in any fight.
but he didn't land more punches. are you saying floyd wasn't rocked? why did he stagger into the ropes and cover up? is that a normal floyd move? i saw him try that against mosley as well.
maybe this fight was fixed just like the mosley fight.....eh daggum???:crazy::crazy::crazy: