The Klitschko's

What is 4 pounds? Lewis was 37 and only 4-5 pounds over his prime weight, who cares? Do you really think it makes that much of a difference? Lewis was in a ring with an animal who after the 3rd round only had the use of one eye. If there were a rematch and Lewis came in even at 245 he wouldve gotten beat, and therefore he retired. Good post. Here is a better one. Lewis was coming off of his spectacular domination over Tua into the Rahman fight, and got KTFOed for not taking Rahman seriously. Lewis had dominated tough boxer Tony Tucker and power hitting Frank Bruno, all 3 of these contenders are better fighters than anyone Vitali has faced or even been up against to date, when he was KTFOed by Oliver Mccall. With both Mccall and Rahman Lewis came back to put on some of the most brutal displays in boxing history...No comparison here... The point is that Lewis was clearly in the worst shape of his career...that was the point. And you could look at him and tell it, he thought he was big ****, and still beat Vitali...Not only could Vitali not significantly hurt him, but he could not create a lopsided fight(It was damn near even if you are not blind) and was clearly hurt in the 6th by Lewis...Even without bringing in the scoring rule that all rounds that could go either way automatically go to the champion, the fight was STILL near even... So stop disrespecting a all time great heavyweight by calling him a mother ****ing coward, a ****ing bum, and saying that he got his ass beat WHEN HE DIDN'T! The fact of the matter is that ANY fighter in history would be good to live up to Lewis, or any other fighter at his level...But you guys insist on downgrading some of the best fighters in history with ignorant, biased views on the sport...Vitali does it too...

What is 4 pounds? Lewis was 37 and only 4-5 pounds over his prime weight, who cares? Do you really think it makes that much of a difference? Lewis was in a ring with an animal who after the 3rd round only had the use of one eye. If there were a rematch and Lewis came in even at 245 he wouldve gotten beat, and therefore he retired. Blobby put it bluntly. Vitali fought Lewis' fight is more like it, but meh. That fight was very close, and Lewis was in the worst shape of his career, and the least formidable since Pre-Prime. I would argue that Lewis was in his prime when he was fighting the likes of Razor Ruddock and Frank Bruno. 10 years and 20lbs ago. I think most others will agree with me by a very large margin. If Lewis were prepared, as he was with Tyson, give me a fight plan for Vitali to beat him...I just cannot see any way even Arreola Vitali can beat Lewis.

What is 4 pounds? Lewis was 37 and only 4-5 pounds over his prime weight, who cares? Do you really think it makes that much of a difference? Lewis was in a ring with an animal who after the 3rd round only had the use of one eye. If there were a rematch and Lewis came in even at 245 he wouldve gotten beat, and therefore he retired. Old Lewis fought Vitali's fight and kicked his ass. Vitali's greatest accomplishment is losing to Lennox Lewis.

You fail to mention that Lewis was 4lbs heavier for the Klitschko fight...At least he kept in mind that Rahman had heavy hands, he said Vitali was basically a big nothing. He was 7lbs lighter for the Tyson fight...He was MUCH sharper against the shorter, slower Rahman...To say otherwise is just nutthugging. Lewis underestimated, and paid...Good job saying something before thinking. I tell it like it is. What is 4 pounds? Lewis was 37 and only 4-5 pounds over his prime weight, who cares? Do you really think it makes that much of a difference? Lewis was in a ring with an animal who after the 3rd round only had the use of one eye. If there were a rematch and Lewis came in even at 245 he wouldve gotten beat, and therefore he retired.

Vitali Klitschko Vs Corrie Sanders Obviously everyone knows about this one. Round 1 From the get go the difference in experience between this Vitali, and the Arreola one is huge. Vitali is holding his hands apart and sitting on the back heel. Almost waiting to see what Sanders is going to do and not knowing himself how to tackle the opponent. Sanders has no immediate defense whatsoever, literally, it is actually kind of funny to see him and listen to how people complain about the old time fighters standing the same exact way. He would be fairly easy pickings for the Arreola-Vitali it seems. Late in the round Vitali badly badly hurt by a very short left hand, Sanders baited him in and nailed him, Vitali of course having no defense for such a situation with his hands far apart and below his chin. Vitali would have been in serious trouble if that happened earlier in the round. Round Sanders Round 2 Vitali turns on, dominating this round. I agree with the announcers, Sanders seems to have either lost the spirit of war, or is winded already. Vitali lands at will, Sanders has no counter for anything Vitali does except hold his hands down and protect his brain with his skull...Looks like this is going to be a beating. Round 3 More of the same for a while, Vitali dominating a dead dull scarecrow that flails its arms like those ****in giant tube socks in peoples yards, its hilarious! Late in the round Sanders nails Vitali with a partially absorbed left hook, the same way he did it in round 1, but this time it just pisses Vitali off who starts to batter Sanders with right hands, which...news flash...are flush against herp derp Sanders with his freaking hands in the wrong spot. Great round, goes to Vitali Rounds 4 Klitschko completely dominates. Sanders doesn't even try. He is finished, Kaput, this bum may have not even thought to win this fight before. He has no heart, and is a disgrace to the boxing ring. Props to Vitali for not kicking this piece of **** in the nuts for wasting his time...Sanders does not land or throw one meaningful shot. Vitali keeps his composure and lands at will. Round 5 This fight should be stopped, should have been over at the end of this round. This is disgraceful. I am watching a talented heavyweight champion beat up a street bum in Corrie Sanders...Sanders still refuses to even try, real champions the world over are vomiting over this bout. Rounds 6 and 7 Sanders starts to pick up some. Vitali continues to crush him with right hands Round 8 Sanders may have been a ****ty street bum, but that ****ty street bum's only quality was heart, he finished on his feet swinging like a drunk tube sock thing. Great round, good performance from Vitali as expected.

Vitali Klitschko Vs. Chris Arreola Arreola shows up in this fight with a good attitude, and in lighter shape than his past 3 fights. Vitali looks better than he has in any other fight I have reviewed. Round 1 Arreola comes out aggressively but Klitschko simply moves away, jabs, and strikes. Arreola did not land one punch that entire round, even his jabs were off. He cannot time Klitschko or keep up with his head movement. Klitschko counters Arreola's aggression with his own higher intensity punching, completely neutralizing Arreola. All Arreola manages to do this round is waste energy. Good boxing from Vitali, Arreola looks like he will be totally outclassed as I expected. Round 2 This fight is seriously shaping up. Arreola clearly wants this title, he is aggressive and going after his man. Arreola is not punching when he moves forward, and is not jabbing as he comes in. As he moves in Klitschko simply moves his head, takes a step back and counters, 3 to Arreolas 1. A great round that goes to Vitali for good ring generalship, great boxing abilities, and deffinently the cleaner more effective blows. This is a helluva fight! Vitali breathing very heavily in the corner but is the better aggressor so far! Round 3 Klitschko controlling the pace now. Arreola seems to realize that his aggression is just hurting him now. Arreola still in the fight, but lands few shots and has virtually no offense or defense here except coming forward, no jabs, no nothing, Vitali has completely neutralized him! The difference in class is obvious. Vitali has established his jab, I say that it is all down hill for the slowing Arreola now. PS Chris Arreola's wife looks like a tranny Round 4 This is the kind of fight noone can complain about! Arreola may not be pretty, he may not have much in the skills department, but this guy has guts. Arreola wins round 4 on aggression and punches landed, some great counters from Vitali however. Vitali demonstrating a lack of ability to punch moving away again, but it doesn't matter. Arreola has to move forward at such a awkward rate that he cannot put a solid shot down the pipe. Great fight from both fighters! This is the only round I score for Arreola so far. Round 5 Yet another action packed round! These guys are throwing it all in! Arreola still showing serious guts, coming forward and pressuring Vitali. Vitali is making him look like a amateur at this point, beautiful counter punching. It seems now that Vitali is moving backwards on purpose, getting Arreola to follow him and landing on him mid stride! Amazing work! Rounds 6 and 7 Good rounds for Vitali, continuing to control the fight, the distance, and Arreola with straight shots Round 8 A tough one to call! Amazing round. Could go either way, Arreola for aggression and solid punches landed, or Vitali for defense and short jabs. I give it to Vitali, he seemed to land more shots and seems to be in control of the round. Round 9 Holy ****, this is what a championship fight is supposed to be! What guts from Arreola, and what skill from Vitali! That round goes to Vitali, I think Arreola either took a breather or is starting to slow, his face is a red mess. The distance is once again apparent between the two as Vitali controls the fight, but this is a war! Arreola is reduced to blindly throwing shots after Vitali strikes, which he obviously misses. Vitali does not put much of anything in his shots, he may not have any real heavyweight power but the number, angles, and accuracy of these shots is impressive! This was easily the toughest match of Vitali's career, easily. Arreola has a serious pair of brass balls, he didn't stop fighting or show a single sign of discouragement throughout the entire bout. Vitali put on the best showing in his entire career here, deffinently. His skill is equal to Arreola's balls man! How does noone ever mention a fight like this? This was a must see, easily one of the best fights of recent years in any division! Vitali Klitschko boring? My ass, he has shown no hint of being boring throughout all of the reviews I have seen. If the fight is boring, it is obviously the opponents fault, as 90% of them just fold up and eat the shots all night long because they are just bums, not this Arreola guy, he took it to the champion! I think a rematch would be golden! That was a championship fight, from the heavyweight champion of the world!

vitali is better thn wlad I think it is pretty close from what I have heard, I cannot WAIT to get to review Wlad, he is a big hitter and that is right up my alley!

vitali is better thn wlad

Vitali Klitschko Vs. Danny Williams Williams came into this fight heavy, but looks in shape. I think this was done to help him keep Vitali on the back foot and pressure him with additional strength, but time will tell. Round 1 Williams comes out aggressively trying to get on the inside. Vitali pawing with the left hand looking for a opening, using it to keep Williams at range with good jab/hook combinations. "Danny Williams doesn't seem to think Vitali is a big puncher!" Well Danny he may not be a big puncher, but he is lighting your behind on fire. Good combinations from Vitali, Vitali looking for the KO and Williams has nothing to answer with. Williams does the crazy chicken and goes down. Williams up and swinging wildly, Vitali just ducks and lands. Williams out on his feet as the bell rings. Vitali shows that hand speed and accuracy from the opening bell. Round 2 Williams gets in a couple of good jabs, Vitali wide open for them but they are not enough to give Williams any advantage. Vitali dominates Williams in this round, hurting him twice but keeps his composure throughout the round not going for the kill. Vitali completely outclassing Williams who has no answers. His left hand, agility, hand speed, and accuracy completely overwhelming Williams. Round 3 Klitschko showing a weakness I had already come to conclusions about. He cannot fight backwards, he does not do well against a good pressure fighter. Williams rallys, when he comes forward he lands with ease, as Vitali does not hold his hands up here. Vitali is forced to move straight backwards to avoid the shots and cannot counter. Why does he hold his hands so low? Vitali now starts to establish his combos holding Williams back. Williams manages to get in his left hand(Forced jab), but Vitali outlands him. Low blow from Williams right on the balls it looked like. And Williams walks into a left hook! Perfect timing from Vitali! Williams down face first. It seems as though Vitali is holding his left hand down to catch Williams off guard with a sort of left hook/uppercut hybrid. He has done it several times. Seeing as how he doesn't have to worry about any pressure or right hands from Williams so long as he keeps his right hand and jab going, Williams is finished here. Round 4 Vitali starts fast. Combinations, accuracy, speed. He is just beating Williams to a pulp. Williams only answers are wild hooks and forced jabs. Beautiful boxing display from Vitali this round! The announcers keep saying that Vitali is winded, I don't see it. He is breathing hard but that is it. He doesn't seem to be having any problems with fatigue or stamina here, nor has he ever. He fights a good, calculated pace. Round 5 I don't think Williams threw a single punch, he certainly didn't do enough, in my eyes, to show that this fight should go on. Maybe he is resting and banking on Klitschkos stamina, fat chance XD' Rounds 6 and 7 More domination from Vitali. One thing happened in round 7 I was impressed with. Vitali put Williams down, caught him off balance. Instead of foolishly moving in for the KO like 99% of heavyweights do, he kept his cool and did not change a thing. It seems to me that Williams needed to be pulled out in round 6, round 7 he is just a punching bag. Round 8 it is over What heart from Williams, and Skill from Vitali, take nothing away from either man! To clear up a few things...because I love talking power punchers http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/4089373.stm "He didn't hit as hard as Mike Tyson but he was more consistent with his punches. "Tysons punches through defense was like Klitschkos punches without any defense" .... Old Tyson hit harder...

...and Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis/Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age" In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years" Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT. Saying that Vitali dominated Lewis is pure ignorance...That was a close fight, Lewis landed the harder shots, Lewis put on the late round pressure, Lewis opened the cut, and Lewis just walked through Vitali's shots...Not to mention that it was a title fight, the general rule of thumb is that if a round is so close it can go either way against the champion, it GOES to the champion.... Lewis was coming off of a fight he was in great shape for and into a fight he thought wouldn't even be one...he did that two times before. If Vitali won the fight then we would have gotten what we wanted, but he didn't. Lewis didn't give a ****, he has tens of millions sitting under his ass as it is and was getting aged...he no longer had the athleticism he had in his Razor Ruddock days. No reason to rematch a fight that didn't scare your record I guess >.< Biggest mistake of his career.

Take off your Klitschko hater goggles. You need to learn how to score fights. Anyone who gave Lewis more than 2 rounds is either blind or stupid (or both). Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis THE TRUTH Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice. Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was hurt several times in the fight. punches landed Vitali 156 Lewis 102 Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued. All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight. Lewis promised Vitali a rematch. Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight. Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali. Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement. http://i34.tinypic.com/izb4on.gif George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!" Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight" Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch. Lewis is scared to death of Vitali. The Truth, if Vitali took the fight on 10 days notice, so did Lewis. Vitali would not take the fight if he was not prepared, and most top ranked contenders study the top fighters in a division >..< 4-7 lbs is the difference in being in shape or out of shape Scott, you should know that if you are around boxing. Lewis looked terrible in that fight from the opening bell. Lewis looked Decent in the Rahman fight, but tired quickly. He looked much better than he did against Vitali, both because Rahman is a damn bum and Lewis was in even worse shape...

You should realize that 4-7 pounds means very little on a 250 lb man. Lennox looked like total sh*t in the first Rahman fight. I'm left with the choice of believing you, or my lying eyes. Also Lennox's prime was in his early to mid 30's. So being 37 in the Vitali fight was not as big a detriment as some would have you believe.

You fail to mention that Lewis was 4lbs heavier for the Klitschko fight...At least he kept in mind that Rahman had heavy hands, he said Vitali was basically a big nothing. He was 7lbs lighter for the Tyson fight...He was MUCH sharper against the shorter, slower Rahman...To say otherwise is just nutthugging. Lewis underestimated, and paid...Good job saying something before thinking. I tell it like it is. You should realize that 4-7 pounds means very little on a 250 lb man. Lennox looked like total sh*t in the first Rahman fight. I'm left with the choice of believing you, or my lying eyes.

So now you score TWO rounds for Vitali in the Lewis fight? Why am I not surprised?:eek:

The worst performance of Lewis' career by far was the first Rahman fight. But you're determined to twist every possible angle to minimize Klitschko. It couldn't be more transparent. But then again I'm one of the few people even reading this stuff. You fail to mention that Lewis was 4lbs heavier for the Klitschko fight...At least he kept in mind that Rahman had heavy hands, he said Vitali was basically a big nothing. He was 7lbs lighter for the Tyson fight...He was MUCH sharper against the shorter, slower Rahman...To say otherwise is just nutthugging. Lewis underestimated, and paid...Good job saying something before thinking. I tell it like it is.

The worst performance of Lewis' career by far was the first Rahman fight. But you're determined to twist every possible angle to minimize Klitschko. It couldn't be more transparent. But then again I'm one of the few people even reading this stuff.

Vitali Klitschko Vs. Lennox Lewis Classic case of Lennox Lewis not taking a opponent seriously. Lewis comes into the fight after having said that Vitali had no skill whatsoever, believing him to be a complete pushover. Lennox entered the ring in the worst physical shape of his entire career. Rounds 1 and 2 I gave clearly to Vitali. Both fighters are fighting a similar fight, using the jab to push the other away and landing short punches on the inside. Lewis is clearly overwhelmed and underprepared, it is the worst performance of his career. It seems to me that Vitali may have landed two times the shots Lewis did and is being more aggressive, something I like to see when scoring. The power and strength belong to Lewis, Vitali's shots have little to no effect on Lewis but he has few counter for Vitali's shots at this point. Round 3 goes to Lewis easily. As the cut opens over Vitali's eye Lewis turns on, neutralizing Vitali's aggression with his own. Vitali fights back but Lewis outclasses him for the most part. The desperation is obvious from both fighters. That cut is ****ing horrific. Right here I put to rest all of the claims that Lewis cut Vitali either with a headbutt or a lace, if you say that, you are ignorant and have never seen this fight. Lewis nailed him with the two big knuckles of his fist, a perfect shot, Vitali took it well. (Of course Larry Merchant, another HBO retard, says "Their has never been any heavyweight championship with this kind of intense action." What the ****? I always thought the HBO "Specialists" to be a crying bunch of retards anyway, and that proves it.) Round 4 goes to Lewis barely. Lewis came on strong for the first two minutes but Vitali took the last minute. Both men are extremely tired, Vitali is initializing the clinches, the cut has not reopened. Good fight from both men. (Merchant just will not shut the **** up, he is poised to argue with Big George all night long with his mindless bullcrap. George will say something smart and meaningful and right after ****ing Merchant the R-tard will jump in and say "No, I think I could take you in a fight" I am just imagining Foreman killing him in 1000 ways....) Round 5 goes to Lewis. Lewis is landing crisper, cleaner, harder shots. Lewis is unloading some serious sledgehammers on Vitali right on the face but Vitali just hangs in their and throws his own shots. The cut has reopened, but in all honesty it doesn't seem to bother Vitali yet. Dear Lord, how can they let this fight go on? It is horribly dangerous to Vitali, that amount of blood loss with PROFOUNDLY affect his stamina, if not hospitalize him easily. Round 6 a close one UNTIL THE END! Vitali clearly out on his feet from a Lewis right to the temple, Vitali Holds on! A great uppercut from Lewis! Vitali wobbly, but slowly walks back to his stool....How did you guys miss this? Why wasn't this ever a part of the discussions? What a beard on Klitschko! The fight is stopped. No disgrace here, as their was with Byrd, I think this makes up for that. This was a helluva fight even if Lewis was completely unprepared. Both men fought their asses off IMHO. Balls from Vitali, man would have to have brass balls to want to continue with a cut like that, I would say he could have easily been blinded if it continued to 12. Both men equally wore out by the end of the fight, I think that Lewis' weight played a toll, not only on himself, but on Vitali also. Lewis would have won the decision had the cut not happened, Vitali out on his feet at the end of round 6. He did lose rounds 3-6, but you can't take anything away, the guy has serious balls and talent. Vitali did not have the power to hurt Lewis, but demonstrated speed that was on par with him it seems to me. Vitali ate some monsters that fight, but if Lewis were prepared as he was with Tyson, I am afraid it would have been much different, Lewis KO in the mid rounds easily...No shame in that, the same thing happened to Tyson.

Good luck my friend, I'll be keeping an eye out for more of yopur posts in this thread. Thanks man! Ill continue with Vitali-Williams tomorrow, Don't want to do it tonight, would rather do it when I have a clearer head so I don't sound like such a biased ass lol...Watching Foreman-Briggs now

Its all good, I didn't know which one it should go in at first, because I was discussing the Klits past fights, I'll be done with it in 2 days or so. Good luck my friend, I'll be keeping an eye out for more of yopur posts in this thread.

Sorry Xion, I gotta move this to NSB. Nothing against you,I just don't want idiots and nuthuggers crawling in here. Its all good, I didn't know which one it should go in at first, because I was discussing the Klits past fights, I'll be done with it in 2 days or so.