WTF? Boxing must've really lost it. Even a Klitschko could be placed above him. Williams is just not dominant enough to have such a high spot, and from a technical standpoint he shouldn't even be in the top 10!!!!! How does Williams get rated ABOVE Andre Ward? Or Marquez? Or Mosley? There's a ton of guys you could put above Paul Williams.
Dan Rafael, I like you, and maybe the rest of your list was good, I don't know becuase I don't want to pay ESPN 6.50 to read like 75 words, but you must've been half asleep when you put Williams at 3 p4p.
Williams can't be considered p4p anything when he tries to avoid his own weight class. After Martinez he wants to go back down to 147 to fight smaller men, he didn't even want to fight Martinez but he was forced to.
paul williams is no longer a rankable fighter ,id rank him in the top 18 at best but a guy who cant beat cintron , martinez properly and loses to quintana shouldnt be ranked nowhere high, williams best win came against winky when he was older than hell, lol, the margarito fight he got dominated in the latter rounds but he did win that fight, cintron and martinez wins were just bull**** by hbo to promote his ass so they made it seem like he won well enough to be ranked, lol, nyahahahaha
Dan "Sally Jessie" Rafael is loosing credibility article by article. His personal oppinions are starting to obstruct his better judgement.
He is starting to sound less as a professional sport lost the Martinez fight unless you count all his missed shots, then He followed that fight and got another gift on his last fight which should of been called NO Contest. Where him and Cintron looked like two long leg spiders tripping on each other. 3 P4P? Give me a break.
Two gifts in a role make him overrated and outside of Bizarro's World, Paul William is maybe 8 or 9 if any. Rafael needs to fight with all his strenght to pull out of Manny's a s s so He can start writing like a Pro again.
Ur crazy Paul Williams is easily in the top 5 P4P list! He willing to fight anyone from 147-160, and nobody doesnt want a piece of the guy! He fought and beat Winky and Maragarsicko when nobody wanted to fight them! He avenged his only loss with a K.O in the first round and he beat Martinez who is MW king now, easily top 5 p4p dude! Everybody else has been fighting dudes they SHOULD beat!
Dan "Sally Jessie" Rafael is loosing credibility article by article. His personal oppinions are starting to obstruct his better judgement.
He is starting to sound less as a professional sport writer and more as a Pactard bias against Mayweather, not as a writer but more as a bias fan.
The Pactard is ignoring the PW's last few fights. He lost the Martinez fight unless you count all his missed shots, then He followed that fight and got another gift on his last fight which should of been called NO Contest. Where him and Cintron looked like two long leg spiders tripping on each other. 3 P4P? Give me a break.
Two gifts in a role make him overrated and outside of Bizarro's World, Paul William is maybe 8 or 9 if any. Rafael needs to fight with all his strenght to pull out of Manny's a s s so He can start writing like a Pro again.
Fernando Montiel at 3?!!!!!! Let me guess, you watched Hasegawa's highlights a few too many times....
seen that fight once but hasegawa was the best at 118 and montiel koed him, koed el torito , something nonito could'nt do all in his last fights..thats certainly better than beating a juan diaz, or a pavlik or losing to floyd while getting a draw to a mora...lol...... both of the klitscho need a mention too tho!
Here's the thing, personally, I think that Paul Williams is probably the third, fourth, or fifth best P4P boxer in the world, but his acheievements do not qualify him to really earn that position, for me.
Ranking someone as P4P best and acknowlediging that they are the P4P best are two different things for me, if it makes any sense.
If Paul Williams beats Sergio Martinez, then I don't know how he doesn't crack top 5 P4P though.
If he DEFINITIVELY beats Sergio Martinez, I mean by a UD of on average AT LEAST 117-111 or better, I could put him at 5.
I don't see that happening though. Paul Williams does not have something that you cannot teach, and that is coordination. He's a very technically flawed fighter.
Williams deserves his spot imo.
He has wins over several Welterweight Champs and a win over the current Lineal MW Champ.
It could also be argued he has been ducked by some of the other top fighters.
PS: Fat Dan is a cunt. :fing26:
"Several"? Carlos Quintana who got KO'ed by Miguel Cotto just the other fight
Antonio Margarito - who Williams of course fought at 147, and Margarito still made Paul Williams his girlfriend in the later rounds
He can arguably be ranked Number 2 depending on how you feel about Floyd.
Are you saying that you'd have P4P 1 Pacquiao, and 2 Paul Williams? You obviously have no ceiling on your head, which caused everything to spill out.
he's # 4 in my book right behind montiel so it aint really that bad puttting him at # 3 imo!
Fernando Montiel at 3?!!!!!! Let me guess, you watched Hasegawa's highlights a few too many times....
He can arguably be ranked Number 2 depending on how you feel about Floyd.
yea, dont push it...
hes def top 5. is he # 3??? i think id put a vlad ahead of him. hes on a crazy run rite now. p will hasnt looked good in about a year.
Dan Rafael is good for the news and insight he brings of the game, but his rankings and scoring of fights is something that I don't take seriously.
I certainly agree about his scoring.
Here's the thing, personally, I think that Paul Williams is probably the third, fourth, or fifth best P4P boxer in the world, but his acheievements do not qualify him to really earn that position, for me.
Ranking someone as P4P best and acknowlediging that they are the P4P best are two different things for me, if it makes any sense.
If Paul Williams beats Sergio Martinez, then I don't know how he doesn't crack top 5 P4P though.