Why all the catch weight bulls**t

with the exception of Chavez-Whitaker which officially ended in a draw the better fighter (Hopkins) ended up winning. well it varies from fight to fight, I mean DLH used a CW to fight Hopkins and lost. And vs Cotto going into the fight Pacquiao had pretty much every advantage and the only real edge Cotto had was the size, which was taken away a bit by the 145 catchweight. I mean why does the pound for Pound #1 needs a catchweight too, on top of all the advantages he already holds vs Cotto? .. that's why I call it lame/pathetic and again my issue with it, is that Pacquiao seems to select catchweights for higher risk opponents on paper Cotto seemed a tougher fight, so team Pac uses a 145 catchweight then next fight vs Clottey, who on paper is a much less risky fight no mention of a catchweight what so ever I mean doesn't that tell you right there that Team Pacquiao is specifically using this catchweight as an extra advantage? sure yeah some people say "a couple pounds don't make that big a difference" but how is that the case, when team Pacquiao go through the trouble of adding in a specific CW in the first place? point is, it isn't much of a factor cause the bigger guy almost always wins even if he has to lose a few pounds. and cotto was not affected by the catchweight so your point is moot. margarito will also not be affected by the catch weight. the age of the internet make us know every detail of the fight, and therefore we can ***** about every little damn thing...

Catchweights i still think there is too much *****ing about catch weights. guys who are going down a few pounds to face a naturally smaller guy usually wins. de la hoya-hopkins whitaker- Chavez hopkins- pavlik on the top of my head. point is, it isn't too easy for the smaller guys to beat these bigger guys as pac makes it seem. with the exception of Chavez-Whitaker which officially ended in a draw the better fighter (Hopkins) ended up winning. well it varies from fight to fight, I mean DLH used a CW to fight Hopkins and lost. And vs Cotto going into the fight Pacquiao had pretty much every advantage and the only real edge Cotto had was the size, which was taken away a bit by the 145 catchweight. I mean why does the pound for Pound #1 needs a catchweight too, on top of all the advantages he already holds vs Cotto? .. that's why I call it lame/pathetic and again my issue with it, is that Pacquiao seems to select catchweights for higher risk opponents on paper Cotto seemed a tougher fight, so team Pac uses a 145 catchweight then next fight vs Clottey, who on paper is a much less risky fight no mention of a catchweight what so ever I mean doesn't that tell you right there that Team Pacquiao is specifically using this catchweight as an extra advantage? sure yeah some people say "a couple pounds don't make that big a difference" but how is that the case, when team Pacquiao go through the trouble of adding in a specific CW in the first place?

True but can't you just picture them (Floyd fans) saying that Margo was weight drained because his prior fight was at 154 .... Manny loses either way! In my mind, while I didn't like the catchweight either, I see it as a stepping stone for Manny. If Manny fights Margo at 147 he may never move up to 154. Instead, if Manny looks good against Margo then he may challenge someone like an Angulo or Martinez IF Floyd is still on vacation. If he actually beats that next level then it would be unlikely for even the critics to discount Manny's achievements at that level. i don't take flomo's opinions too seriously. If they fought at the 147 limit, margarito will not be affected. Margarito is a welterweight period.

the only thing that makes margarito-pac annoying is that its for the title. they should have had made it at 147 for pac's title. True but can't you just picture them (Floyd fans) saying that Margo was weight drained because his prior fight was at 154 .... Manny loses either way! In my mind, while I didn't like the catchweight either, I see it as a stepping stone for Manny. If Manny fights Margo at 147 he may never move up to 154. Instead, if Manny looks good against Margo then he may challenge someone like an Angulo or Martinez IF Floyd is still on vacation. If he actually beats that next level then it would be unlikely for even the critics to discount Manny's achievements at that level.

Catchweight are very good. In a current climate of the sport with boxers choosing every excuse to not make a fight happen. Catchweight at least gives the sport more possibilities of making more fights.

Catchweights are in place for different sized fighters to make fights? There are advantages and disadvantages for both parties involved. I thought I was on Boxingscene, not B!tchscene.

You are right, the smaller guy has issues of his own. Look at Trinidad against Hopkins. Trinidad couldn't bring up the power he had to that weight. While I will not put everyone in this boat but as much as I also am not too crazy with catchweights some of these guys are trying to just use it against Manny. Plain and simple as that. Example: Manny defeated Morales but many of the Floyd fans have said, get this, why couldn't Manny have fought Morales at a catchweight (eg. 132) so that Morales would not come in weight drained? I too wouldn't have mind seeing a catchweight so to help out Morales BUT I knew this simple answer.... The simple answer was that they were fighting for a title that has a limit of 130. No matter what the answer was, the point is that they didn't mind to see a catchweight when it was against Manny. the only thing that makes margarito-pac annoying is that its for the title. they should have had made it at 147 for pac's title.

i still think there is too much *****ing about catch weights. guys who are going down a few pounds to face a naturally smaller guy usually wins. de la hoya-hopkins whitaker- chavez hopkins- pavlik on the top of my head. point is, it isn't too easy for the smaller guys to beat these bigger guys as pac makes it seem. You are right, the smaller guy has issues of his own. Look at Trinidad against Hopkins. Trinidad couldn't bring up the power he had to that weight. While I will not put everyone in this boat but as much as I also am not too crazy with catchweights some of these guys are trying to just use it against Manny. Plain and simple as that. Example: Manny defeated Morales but many of the Floyd fans have said, get this, why couldn't Manny have fought Morales at a catchweight (eg. 132) so that Morales would not come in weight drained? I too wouldn't have mind seeing a catchweight so to help out Morales BUT I knew this simple answer.... The simple answer was that they were fighting for a title that has a limit of 130. No matter what the answer was, the point is that they didn't mind to see a catchweight when it was against Manny.

^ catchweights are still pretty bad. If you want to beat someone beat them at their best. Some boxers have enough trouble making weight as is ... why throw in 3-4 extra pounds with a silly catchweight? an ESPN article a year back or so listed 15 catchweight bouts and most all of the ones listed seemed utterly worthless (such as Trinidad-Jones Jr for example) or even Malignaggi-Diaz with so many weight divisions, I don't see a big need for catchweights and what I think so many boxing fans miss are it's the concept of catchweights is what I don't like the most as if the weight or size differential is so drastic that you need to handicap the fight by controlling the weight of your opponent a couple pounds I just find it pathetic. Yeah "both guys sign the contract" but why have an extra handicap with a specific weight restriction? i still think there is too much *****ing about catch weights. guys who are going down a few pounds to face a naturally smaller guy usually wins. de la hoya-hopkins whitaker- chavez hopkins- pavlik on the top of my head. point is, it isn't too easy for the smaller guys to beat these bigger guys as pac makes it seem.

I'm against world titles being at stake when there is a catchweight. But I also realize that it is a lost cause.

^ catchweights are still pretty bad. If you want to beat someone beat them at their best. Some boxers have enough trouble making weight as is ... why throw in 3-4 extra pounds with a silly catchweight? an ESPN article a year back or so listed 15 catchweight bouts and most all of the ones listed seemed utterly worthless (such as Trinidad-Jones Jr for example) or even Malignaggi-Diaz with so many weight divisions, I don't see a big need for catchweights and what I think so many boxing fans miss are it's the concept of catchweights is what I don't like the most as if the weight or size differential is so drastic that you need to handicap the fight by controlling the weight of your opponent a couple pounds I just find it pathetic. Yeah "both guys sign the contract" but why have an extra handicap with a specific weight restriction?

catchweights aren't as bad as people make it out to be. catch weights are not new, atg's have fought in catch weights, won titles in them, etc... there are a lot of things worse in boxing than catch weights.

If you want to claim to be champion fight the champ at his best not at a catchweight that makes him weaker before the fight.

Recently there has been alot of catch weight fights. One certain fighter is notorious for fighting at catchweights and still claiming he's won the belt in that division. What are your opinions on this catchweight fight idea? I really really dont like it. If you want to move up a weight to fight a champ for the title then fight at the real weight. Ie. 147 for the WW crown. It gives the fighter a massive advantage who is moving up as his opponent has to drain down further than normail, thus making himself weaker in the process. I dont ever remember the likes of tommy hearns bi*ching and whining about weight issues. If you move up and loose against the bigger guy then so be it, atleast you fought like a champ and didnt try and get every little advantage you could. A catchweight fight isn't that bad if,lets say an actual champ agrees to the terms!!But catchweights start getting out of order when it's to fighters simply at a catchweight for a vacant title!!Or when 1 of the fighters just loves catchweights!!