I could see why people would complain if this was a headliner, but its on the UNDERCARD of JMM-KATS, stop *****ing..
Plus, hernadez has won his last 13 fights hes pretty underrated IMO.
How come you guys arent *****ing about Pavlik-Vera? BECAUSE ITS ON THE UNDERCARD.
What is so differrent for Berto?
First relize how good of a card this is and how gratefull we are for not having to dish out $54.00 to see it...
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This fight is an undercard tune up. As in not a headliner. And he's returning from rehabing his left bicep. This fight is actually better than his mando, who I hope someone will KO soon. So calm down a bit. Afterwards, Berto will probably have better fight options then he does now, but he may as will stay busy against a solid but not great guy like Hernandez. HBO looks to get a return on investment sometime, so a big fight is there to be made with Berto, there going to make it. And judging by how Kotelnik recently did vs a southpaw, I honestly think that Ortiz's peeps weren't that unhappy about the fight dying.
so why is he making 1.25 million dollars? i don't think i've ever seen that type of money for an undercard tune up. that drains the hbo budget and is a slap in the face to everyone else who is making a fraction of that fighting real competition. berto is making an easy living by coasting against easy opponents and you keep defending him. if he wants to fight hernandez i say go for it but he should not be paid like it's a great fight. he's using and abusing hbo. he must have naked pictures of the executives.
yes he did but they didn't have enough money to make it cause they used it all up on the berto bum patrol. your doubts don't mean diddly squat when it comes to reality. i'd rather see an actual good fight than a berto mismatch but i don't run hbo. they must know what they are doing....
This fight is an undercard tune up. As in not a headliner. And he's returning from rehabing his left bicep. This fight is actually better than his mando, who I hope someone will KO soon. So calm down a bit. Afterwards, Berto will probably have better fight options then he does now, but he may as will stay busy against a solid but not great guy like Hernandez. HBO looks to get a return on investment sometime, so a big fight is there to be made with Berto, there going to make it. And judging by how Kotelnik recently did vs a southpaw, I honestly think that Ortiz's peeps weren't that unhappy about the fight dying.
LOL WUT does that have to do with anything? Your just outing yourself now. And I'm being nice. I doubt King wanted to make that fight anyways, so HBO paying less wouldn't had solved anything. And I guess you couldn't respond rationally to my post, so you just started typing nonsense.
yes he did but they didn't have enough money to make it cause they used it all up on the berto bum patrol. your doubts don't mean diddly squat when it comes to reality. i'd rather see an actual good fight than a berto mismatch but i don't run hbo. maybe they have become emotionally attached to him because they've watched him grow for most of his boxing career. now they don't want to see him get hurt so they keep babying him.
Berto is a joke. Ever since Collazo gave him hell, he fights chumps.
He sent Collazo into exile in Siberia. Too bad, as I'd like to see a rematch.
He's been paper champion far too long to continue this charade.
Either shit or gtfo.
I got Cotto, Jones, Mosley all murdering Berto.
Jones ain't s###. Just a big body, and if that's all you care about, then Hernandez isn't that bad of a opponent. Cotto and Mosley are great fights, but Cotto won't give Berto the time of day, and maybe he should had just took 40 percent against Mosley, but considering Shane can't drawn on his own, was off a loss, and didn't have a title on the line, I could see him sticking with 50. And he was the only major welter who wanted to fight Shane in 09. Hopefully that fight can happen after Hernandez.
Yeah.
Berto will have to grow a pair
He said he will move up for Cotto but I'm not sure he would for anyone else. I would like a Saul Alverez fight too.
Co-Sign.
I belive that Berto should be targeting fights with the likes of Cotto, Mosley at 147lbs, although he has already had his chance to fight shane n he declined
He's been paper champion far too long to continue this charade.
Either shit or gtfo.
I got Cotto, Jones, Mosley all murdering Berto.
Also people keep mentioning Clottey as a fight but we already heard he is moving up in weight as is Collazo. There really isnt much to chose from besides Mosley or Cotto and he may even have t move for those fights now.
Yeah.
Berto will have to grow a pair
hbo could have made ortiz vs kotelnik but instead they gave this money to berto to fight a guy named freddy. maybe it's cause he's a slick african american fighter and they know that's the best syle in boxing that beats all other styles and can't be beaten.
LOL WUT does that have to do with anything? Your just outing yourself now. And I'm being nice. I doubt King wanted to make that fight anyways, so HBO paying less wouldn't had solved anything. And I guess you couldn't respond rationally to my post, so you just started typing nonsense.
Also people keep mentioning Clottey as a fight but we already heard he is moving up in weight as is Collazo. There really isnt much to chose from besides Mosley or Cotto and he may even have t move for those fights now.
hbo could have made ortiz vs kotelnik but instead they gave this money to berto to fight a guy named freddy. maybe it's cause he's a slick african american fighter and they know that's the best syle in boxing that beats all other styles and can't be beaten. if they pretend he's floyd mayweather maybe fans will tune in.
I can't believe anyone is trying to pass Hernandez off as a serious opponent.
You people are idiots.
Those chemtrails you keep talking about have gotten you to like many not-so-great fighters. What the harm in you giving Hernandez a pass?
i do b!!! at hbo but i also b!!! at berto for ducking the top guys.
hernandez and margarito are not even comparable. margarito was a top fighter and still might be(1 loss doesn't mean you are garbage only in floyd's world) for years while hernandez is a nobody.
Berto wanted to fight Cotto. Wanted to fight Cotto 3 times if I'm not mistaken. The first two times he passed were understandable, because Cotto chose to fight Clottey and Pac instead, which is understandable. The third time wasn't. Cotto just didn't want to take a risk and fight, so said "Thanks, but no thanks" after Foreman.
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29564
Appearently, Berto wasn't relevant enough, but Vanes was considered. Cotto's people only started talking about "Oh well he would had priced himself out" when it looked he was going to fight Adyin. That's a Floyd move right there. And maybe he should had took 60-40 for Mosley, but after a loss, I can see why he would want to stick to 50-50.
As far as Marg goes, the Marg of 2007 is an entirely different Marg than the one now, for reasons that may be legit or not, but lets not go there. Point is Margarito of today isn't that much better than Hernandez is right now, and it's a shame that Berto's opponent isn't that much worse than the headlining opponent of the top 1 or 2 P4P fighter today (Especially considering it's an undercard tune up.).
I think top rank will have Cotto fight stable mates for now. I can dream though
Yeah, I think your right.
But its what boxing needs, for Berto vs Cotto to happen
Yeah.
I think it may happen next year.
But we neevr know, if margarito does well n goes 12 rounds with pac n not take a beating (unlikely), then Top Rank may put on a Cotto-Marg rematch
I think top rank will have Cotto fight stable mates for now. I can dream though
Me too. Thats the fight Berto has been holding out for but Top Rank doesn't seem interested. I thought there was a chance when the Chavez jr fight was called off but Alas.
Yeah.
I think it may happen next year.
But we neevr know, if margarito does well n goes 12 rounds with pac n not take a beating (unlikely), then Top Rank may put on a Cotto-Marg rematch
Yeah.
They defo should have.
I would like to see a Berto-Cotto fight, I think it would be a great fight.
Me too. Thats the fight Berto has been holding out for but Top Rank doesn't seem interested. I thought there was a chance when the Chavez jr fight was called off but Alas.
HBO should have saved that fight and put up a little more for that fight.
Yeah.
They defo should have.
I would like to see a Berto-Cotto fight, I think it would be a great fight.
Co-Sign.
I belive that Berto should be targeting fights with the likes of Cotto, Mosley at 147lbs, although he has already had his chance to fight shane n he declined
HBO should have saved that fight and put up a little more for that fight.
I can't believe anyone is trying to pass Hernandez off as a serious opponent.
You people are idiots.
Co-Sign.
I belive that Berto should be targeting fights with the likes of Cotto, Mosley at 147lbs, although he has already had his chance to fight shane n he declined