I think Wlad Hits Harder Than Prime Tyson...

I'm not deleting anything. Either Klitschko would beat everyone on Tyson's resume. Prime For Prime...Either Klitschko beats Holyfield. 2010 Wlad brutally KOs any version of Lewis. We already talked about Vitali/Lewis in this thread: Wlad brutally KOs any version of Lewis huh? Vitali lost to old gray haired Lewis at the end of his awesome career. Vitali may have been ahead on points(By 2 rounds) but the fact of the matter remains that Lewis busted his face up and he failed to defend against Lewis' onslaught, and thus lost the fight fair and square. Both fighters were dog tired at the stoppage and Vitali was hold on for dear life at the end of the fight, FACTS! Lewis took the fight on short notice the same as Vitali. Neither Klitschko would beat Prime Lewis, disprove me!

of COURSE Emanuelle Steward is gonna back Wlad up... thats where most of his money is son! Boxing is a business... Adjust your thinking accordingly. I've seen Wlad fight, he doesn't have the footspeed and general core explosiveness that prime Mike had. Wlad is stiff as a board man, hard puncher but watch a highlight reel of Wlad knockouts and Tyson knockouts, you'll see the truth. I saw you talk about how Tyson lost to Buster Douglas... Tyson was fully shot by then, we are talking about PRIME Mike When somebody mentions "prime Mike Tyson", I immediately think of the Mike that KOd Spinks. That night, Tyson was at his best. NOBODY in history would have beaten him, IMO.

I'm not deleting anything. The Klitschkos would beat everyone on Tyson's resume. Except for Lewis and Holyfield. But that is not what you said, you said that the ERA that the Klitschkos were fighting in was stronger than the ERA that Tyson fought in, which is utter bull****. This era is the weakest one I can remember, and the Klits are the ones suffering for it(That and their horribly overmatched opponents who are being beat to death) The best fighter Tyson ever took out was Razor(Obviously), I think Razor would give both Klits a huge run for their money, Bonecrusher would create a interesting matchup as well but he wasn't the fighter that Razor was. Prime Lewis beats all though, Tyson and both Klitschkos imho.

when did i say andrew golota was better then the klits? i said he fought in a SIMILAR style retard. go & troll on your many alt's...... :boxing: Can we have win yet? :)

The Klitschkos would dominate and KO all of the bums that Tyson beat during his reign. Klitschko Era >>> Weak Tyson Era WOW you better delete that last statement or you will lose EVERY OUNCE of weight you had in this discussion

Klitschko's better than Tucker (Tucker IS probably quicker and tougher though) but Tucker is for sure better than the bums Wlad are beating. Ray Austin, Sultan Ibrimigov, Ruslan Chagaev, Samuel Peter... U serious??? These guys wouldn't last 6 rounds with Tyson

@ Steelhanner2010....Over the years? So you must be that "Wlad Ownes" guy from last year, right?

You retarded Klitschko haters should read these excellent posts in this thread before you post bullshit. I like the klitshko's they seem to be good people. I like Vitali more. I can't stand to watch Wlad though. He jabs his opponents to death.

I request the sources of these quotes, post the links or it didn't happen :P Tucker was quicker and tougher than Wlad, whether he was as clever is up for grabs, but he didn't have a punch.

Wlad's chin is underrated. And Wlad is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times better than Tucker. Another retarded comparison. no he's not. wlads not that good. He's been sparked before. He hits harder than Tucker that's about it. Tucker was quicker and tougher.

What's so funny? Are you retarded? Both Klitschkos have higher knockout percentages than Tyson. Vitali - 39 KOs in 41 wins Wlad - 49 KOs in 55 wins Tyson - 44 KOs in 50 wins How many of their fights ended within the first 5 rounds. your the stupid one learn how to calculate. Wlad and Tyson have the same ratio of KO's. Tyson fought better opposition in his PRIME.

What's so funny? Are you retarded? Both Klitschkos have higher knockout percentages than Tyson. Wlad - 49 KOs in 55 wins Vitali - 39 KOs in 41 wins Tyson - 44 KOs in 50 wins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNM9q9XwdVE&feature=related tony Tucker was Wlads height, Tyson got inside. tucker was 35-0 and in great shape, much more mobile and quicker than stiff Wlad. Let's not forget Wlads glass jaw. Tyson by KO.

Agree/Disagree? Muwahahahahahahahahaha!!!! you trippin. hahahahahaha! Prime Tyson knocks opponents the hell out.

It's probably close on paper. Wlad has more weight and leverage but Tysons punches are coming at a much higher velocity, they both hit hard but Mike was just straight up a better puncher than Wlad. You see Wlads punches coming, you never saw Tysons.

No. The equation is E=mc2 Thats mass times velocity squared equals power/energy. This is why car crashes only slightly faster can be many times more devastating because velocity is squared. Why can little welters and light weights still knock out guys with one punch to the dome? Because they have the speed. Even though on average human skulls are built the same way with regards to how thick the skull is. It takes roughly the same force to concuss the brain of anyone regardless of size.(within reason eg man vs man 300lbs vs 150lbs, Not man vs child) If you've ever used a bag that measures PSI strength of a punch you'll see that the fast punchers who use their full body to throw a punch have the hardest punches. Big guys with slow punches only have the mass. Exaggerating things to make a point. I'd rather be hit by a bus at 5mph than a bullet. Tyson threw punches with is whole body and was fast. Look at his hook to the body. Now that's power.

I know he was old but it doesnt change the fact that he was the first to stop him in impressive fashion. Ray was still one tough SOB old school fighter. If you watch the fight on youtube you can hear the hbo commentators was very impressed and that win made a big statment about wlad's power at that time. In wlads fight with charles shufford he had one of the sickest right hands I have seen and Emanuel Steward was commentating and said that his right hand was one best if not the best he's ever seen. Remeber this was years before steward became wlads trainer. Look from 5.00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klKDaG5du3c Ray was always a tough SOB, thats very true, but I can't help but think that Wlad would have been far from KOing Mercer in better days

I just saw the Klit-Rahman fight...Note that Lennox Lewis KTFOed Rahman in what, 4 rounds? And I mean KTFOed him, Klit failed to do this, and also failed to really hurt Rahman. Rahman was old and way over the hill in that fight, and ontop of that was a talentless slow blob in his prime. Edge wayyyyyy over to Lennox Lewis. Wlad beat Axel the same way Axel fought George, just get around the punches. Outspeeded. I think George beat Axel but I will revise my opinion to say that Wlad does even worse to old George, but still stand by Young George running through him. Even with old George you still have that power, the hardest hitter Wlad could ever face. Its not good for your argument to bring the Mercer fight here, their was a 6 year span between Lewis and Klitschko, and Mercer was old old old. 41 years old, and obviously way past his prime. I know he was old but it doesnt change the fact that he was the first to stop him in impressive fashion. Ray was still one tough SOB old school fighter. If you watch the fight on youtube you can hear the hbo commentators was very impressed and that win made a big statment about wlad's power at that time. In wlads fight with charles shufford he had one of the sickest right hands I have seen and Emanuel Steward was commentating and said that his right hand was one best if not the best he's ever seen. Remeber this was years before steward became wlads trainer. Look from 5.00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klKDaG5du3c

Wlad or vitali would put up a good fight if not beat the ATG's. Black people and racists just can't stand the fact that a white man can fight good. They hated marciano for it. I think we should make a poll, most ridiculous post today? I vote yes

Wlad or vitali would put up a good fight if not beat the ATG's. Black people and racists just can't stand the fact that a white man can fight good. They hated marciano for it.

Note that Rahman told in an interview on hbo that after his win over lewis he tought he could just go out and KOTF out lewis again. Against wladimir he was in survival mode from round 1 not throwing many punches and mostly covering up. Wlad played it safe.. But if we should go after your logic we can look at wladimirs fight with Ray Mercer, wlad was the first to stop him and had him down already in the first round. Ray was on a 7 win streak since his MD loss to lennox when they meet. Something lewis, holyfield, morrison, holmes and many more couldnt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLDy88Ud5bA And talking about Foreman, he boxed a doubtful MD against ironchin Axel schulz who had never been down in his career. Shortly after this fight, Foreman was stripped by the IBF for refusing to give Schulz a rematch. Later Wlad fights him for vacant EBU (European) heavyweight title and destroys schulz and the first to stop him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXGTygdrNHo Wlad beat Axel the same way Axel fought George, just get around the punches. Outspeeded. I think George beat Axel but I will revise my opinion to say that Wlad does even worse to old George, but still stand by Young George running through him. Even with old George you still have that power, the hardest hitter Wlad could ever face. Its not good for your argument to bring the Mercer fight here, their was a 6 year span between Lewis and Klitschko, and Mercer was old old old. 41 years old, and obviously way past his prime.