Saul Alvarez vs. Andre Berto @ 147.

The kid is not ready for Berto at this time. Hopefully Canelo's managers will give him more time than his fans. HE needs 4 -5 fights before you throw him to the lions. why is berto considered one of the "lions"? cuz he holds a belt? dont forget how he won that belt. if he didnt have it, would he still be considered a "lion"?

Alvarez is definitely better than a 20 yr old Berto. but at this point Alvarez is not ready. maybe in a couple more years he will be ready to fight him. Berto is not that good though.

if they fight right now Berto would ruin the kid still too early to feed him to a hungry Berto. I feel right now Cotto would be the easier fight for canelo What? No how the hell would Cotto be more easier than Berto? First of all Berto is not ruining anybody. Cotto might ruined Alvarez right now but Berto won't. However, is too soon for Alvarez to fight somebody like Berto right now. He would lose but he won't get ruined by Berto. lol @ Berto being too hungry.

The kid is not ready for Berto at this time. Hopefully Canelo's managers will give him more time than his fans. HE needs 4 -5 fights before you throw him to the lions.

Call me crazy, or just emotional for Canelo right now, but I see him beating Berto.

I voted wrong. Meant to vote Berto by KO.

not voting....I see this as a toss up....50/50.....Berto is garbage and Canelo is still wet behind the ears.

Wow, Alvarez is winning the poll... I like Saul, but Berto is definitely too good for the young kid.

Alvarez hasn't been tested though, you are pointing out stuff he does well against BAD competition, just because he does something well against a washed up Carlos Baldimor does not mean that he will be able to do that against other fighters, I know Berto is not very popular and a lot of people hate the guy but Berto has some skills and talent, he also has excellent hand speed and power...right now I think Berto beats the kid...it is too soon for him to jump in with Berto, not saying that Berto is unbeatable or anything like that, but I am sure his Camp and GBP will not do it regardless of what you or I think of his chances would be, sure his chances is good against Berto...but Berto chances is good as well especially against a very young untested fighter i dont see it that way though. only advantage berto has in the fight is hand speed and that advantage is only sustained for part of the fight cuz berto has stamina problems. alot of those instances where he flashes that hand speed is a whole lot of sound and fury signifying nothing, then he gets tired and needs to hold. you COULD argue that berto has the experience behind him, but what has berto learned from that experience? his skill level has gone backwards and it aint like hes learned to adapt or fight more intelligently. he looked ordinary vs collazo (some even felt collazo won). he looked ordinary vs urango and the ghost of carlos quintana. after viewing those fights all i got from berto is that holding has become an even bigger part of his arsenal. he got different looks, but he attacked them all the same. so what exactly did he learn? as far as ring savvy and intelligence, those are definitely on saul's side...so i think the experience factor is pretty much nullified. getting different looks is important, but experience is only beneficial if a fighter shows that he has learned something and has shown improvement. berto has NOT shown improvement.

that wont happen because berto's boxing skills are pretty terrible for the level of fighter he is. only way i see berto beating alvarez is if saul fights a stupid fight, languishes on the inside and engages in a wrestling match. canelo doesnt fight that way though. he has an advanced knowledge of punching distance and u never see him falling in and smothering himself. even on the inside its not a given that berto will be able to out-muscle alvarez. even though he's 20 y/o, it aint like saul is some skinny underdeveloped kid. hes already got his man muscles and is built like a tank. on fight night he looks like a re-hydrated junior middle. just look at his back, trunk and legs on fight night. kid is a HUGE welter. saul takes this fairly easily. its pretty embarrassing the difference in skill level considering their difference in age and experience. berto should be ashamed of himself being such a brutal fighter. Alvarez hasn't been tested though, you are pointing out stuff he does well against BAD competition, just because he does something well against a washed up Carlos Baldomir does not mean that he will be able to do that against other fighters, I know Berto is not very popular and a lot of people hate the guy but Berto has some skills and talent, he also has excellent hand speed and power...right now I think Berto beats the kid...it is too soon for him to jump in with Berto, not saying that Berto is unbeatable or anything like that, but I am sure his Camp and GBP will not do it regardless of what you or I think of his chances would be, sure his chances is good against Berto...but Berto chances is good as well especially against a very young untested fighter

he is not ready for Berto, I think Berto would KO or TKO him right now, he is only 20 he need to continue to take it SLOW and work his way up, putting him in their with Berto would be a HUGE mistake right now sure if would be great for him if he was to beat Berto at a young age...but you also risk him getting destroyed and broken down physiologically especially if Berto was to dominate him that wont happen because berto's boxing skills are pretty terrible for the level of fighter he is. only way i see berto beating alvarez is if saul fights a stupid fight, languishes on the inside and engages in a wrestling match. canelo doesnt fight that way though. he has an advanced knowledge of punching distance and u never see him falling in and smothering himself. even on the inside its not a given that berto will be able to out-muscle alvarez. even though he's 20 y/o, it aint like saul is some skinny underdeveloped kid. hes already got his man muscles and is built like a tank. on fight night he looks like a re-hydrated junior middle. just look at his back, trunk and legs on fight night. kid is a HUGE welter. saul takes this fairly easily. its pretty embarrassing the difference in skill level considering their difference in age and experience. berto should be ashamed of himself being such a brutal fighter.

Never thought I would say this about Berto, but he has faced the higher level of competition.

if they fight right now Berto would ruin the kid still too early to feed him to a hungry Berto. I feel right now Cotto would be the easier fight for canelo If I'm handling Canelo I would much rather have him in there against Berto.

he is not ready for Berto, I think Berto would KO or TKO him right now, he is only 20 he need to continue to take it SLOW and work his way up, putting him in their with Berto would be a HUGE mistake right now sure if would be great for him if he was to beat Berto at a young age...but you also risk him getting destroyed and broken down physiologically especially if Berto was to dominate him

berto gets gassed and falls into a left hook. alvarez mid to late round KO. berto IS as bad as people make him out to be. That's exactly what i was thinking I mean I dnt see berto ko canelo I think he would get him in trouble in the first fee rounds but he punches himself out and canelo ko him with a left hook. But a little later on

whoah there. berto aint hungry and he would not ruin canelo. saul hits harder. sets up his punches better. paces himself better and will not cooperate with berto when he tries to fall in and hold. alvarez keeps his hands free, creates space and NEVER smothers himself or allows himself to be smothered. saul steps back, creates a hole and berto falls into a left hook. good night. cotto OTOH would outbox alvarez. too skilled, too experienced, busier jab, better footwork, etc. good post my man.

if they fight right now Berto would ruin the kid still too early to feed him to a hungry Berto. I feel right now Cotto would be the easier fight for canelo whoah there. berto aint hungry and he would not ruin canelo. saul hits harder. sets up his punches better. paces himself better and will not cooperate with berto when he tries to fall in and hold. alvarez keeps his hands free, creates space and NEVER smothers himself or allows himself to be smothered. saul steps back, creates a hole and berto falls into a left hook. good night. cotto OTOH would outbox alvarez. too skilled, too experienced, busier jab, better footwork, etc.

if they fight right now Berto would ruin the kid still too early to feed him to a hungry Berto. I feel right now Cotto would be the easier fight for canelo

The red headed monster,by KO..

Berto by mid-rounds stoppage.