he was an up and coming fighter when he was KTFO by allen green in round 1 I believe. He then went to the contender tv series to got to the final where he faced the dangerous sakio bika. I remember the fight was a war with both men going down numerous times and it being a slug fest and FOTY candidate. Well he lost by TKO/Ko in a late round I believe. After that he hasnt fought once. Has he retired or soemthing? I read on wiki that he owns a couple of gyms so maybe he's quit boxing and making money from training or gym ownership?
He was a decent fighter but his chin was similar to amir khans so it let him down when he stepped up in class.
Anyone help??
I think Ali is the best of the group, with the exception of Malignaggi and Collazo who have already made it to a very high level in the pros.
These kids get too comfortable in NY. They live in their own world, and are made to feel like stars before they really accomplish anything.
Again, Luis Collazo aside (Malignaggi is from a different gym, but working there now apparently), if you go through and list every pro to come out of the Havoc team, you'll find a bunch of national amateur champions and Olympians, and all of them have come up short when they step up to fight b-level pro fighters.
You do have a point there...I think Sadam is the most naturally talented of the group...it may also be how hungry they are....Gary Stark fell WAYYY off...
From what I've heard Coney Island is kinda dead now tho since Sadam opened up a new gym...
I like Joe Greene though, just didn't seem able to pull it out against Martirosyan. Shame, i think that's a case of someone just getting trapped in their own world as you guys said. Didn't seem to improve much from his first fight, the Greene who fought on the undercard to Ibragimov/Klits looked identical to that against Vanes. With the right trainer/work i reckon he could turn it around though.
This aint an excuse but Joe shadowboxes with weights...I don't know what kind of effect that has on ur arms...they look like 5-7 pounds last I seen him doing it...idk he couldn't get off for shyt against Vanes...
I watched him on the bag, no combos...stiff heavy jabs and sometimes a right hand(or left depending on stance)...not sure why...
Joe and Vanes are cool tho(somewhat to my suprise)...Joe's tryna get a fight in another month or two...
I like Joe Greene though, just didn't seem able to pull it out against Martirosyan. Shame, i think that's a case of someone just getting trapped in their own world as you guys said. Didn't seem to improve much from his first fight, the Greene who fought on the undercard to Ibragimov/Klits looked identical to that against Vanes. With the right trainer/work i reckon he could turn it around though.
Danny Jacobs appears to be the best of that bunch...I think he can bounce back...I heard a rumor he may find some new handlers...
Just goes to show you the pros and amateurs are 2 different things...and the media overhypes NY fighters a little as well...
If Sadam stays focused I think he can contend...I've heard he can give it to Kendall Holt in sparring...
I think Ali is the best of the group, with the exception of Malignaggi and Collazo who have already made it to a very high level in the pros.
These kids get too comfortable in NY. They live in their own world, and are made to feel like stars before they really accomplish anything.
Again, Luis Collazo aside (Malignaggi is from a different gym, but working there now apparently), if you go through and list every pro to come out of the Havoc team, you'll find a bunch of national amateur champions and Olympians, and all of them have come up short when they step up to fight b-level pro fighters.
Jacobs is overrated imo. Jacobs lost to Shaun Estrada in the box offs, now Estrada does not impress me at all to be honest, he also just got KTFO by Pirog, for me, everything points to him being a little overrated.
He may be...one thing deff overrated was his punching power...Jacobs did beat the guy in ur avatar 3 times tho:lol1: but pros/amateurs are different of course...Danny's good at everything but he's not GREAT at anything, nothing stands out...good handspeed, average power, etc.
Those guys did there thing in the amateurs but just ask Mark Breland if that means its gonna translate into the pro ranks...
Joe Greene, Danny, Sadam, Jaidon, Curtis Stevens all did well, some even at the National level...
Joe looked like **** against Vanes and Curtis doesn't train...Joe's my boy tho so I can't get on em too much lol
Danny Jacobs appears to be the best of that bunch...I think he can bounce back...I heard a rumor he may find some new handlers...
Just goes to show you the pros and amateurs are 2 different things...and the media overhypes NY fighters a little as well...
If Sadam stays focused I think he can contend...I've heard he can give it to Kendall Holt in sparring...
Jacobs is overrated imo. Jacobs lost to Shaun Estrada in the box offs, now Estrada does not impress me at all to be honest, he also just got KTFO by Pirog, for me, everything points to him being a little overrated.
He went to the same place as all the other Coney Island/Havoc Boxing team members.
I don't get how those guys all made it to the highest level in the amateurs, but consistently come up short in the pros. That team is like the Bermuda triangle. Get out while you can, Sadam Ali.
Danny Jacobs appears to be the best of that bunch...I think he can bounce back...I heard a rumor he may find some new handlers...
Just goes to show you the pros and amateurs are 2 different things...and the media overhypes NY fighters a little as well...
If Sadam stays focused I think he can contend...I've heard he can give it to Kendall Holt in sparring...
He went to the same place as all the other Coney Island/Havoc Boxing team members.
I don't get how those guys all made it to the highest level in the amateurs, but consistently come up short in the pros. That team is like the Bermuda triangle. Get out while you can, Sadam Ali.
very strange aint it. The problem with codrington was always his chin! He just couldnt take the punches to take him to the top level. He has probably done the right thing and stop fighting whilst he had his health.
He went to the same place as all the other Coney Island/Havoc Boxing team members.
I don't get how those guys all made it to the highest level in the amateurs, but consistently come up short in the pros. That team is like the Bermuda triangle. Get out while you can, Sadam Ali.