will boxing be better when floyd retires?

I know i'll get flamed for this but floyd has continually backed out of fights with fighters that possed any type of chance against him? He never fought tony whilst he was in his prime, Cotto, mosley, p williams and now manny! I know Manny is very suspect but the others he had no excuse to not fight when they were knocking on his door. Instead he fought, oscar who was shot, ricky hatton, and not to mention baldomir (club fighter) If and when floyd retires which he will soon, I believe boxing will be better! You have fighters like bradley and the 140 who all want to fight the to prove they are champs. Also We will get a huge star from who ever wins the super six. Do any of you agree?? Personally, I don't think Boxing will be better or worse. It will simply roll on without him. Has anyone really noticed the void yet?

I know i'll get flamed for this but floyd has continually backed out of fights with fighters that possed any type of chance against him? He never fought tony whilst he was in his prime, Cotto, mosley, p williams and now manny! I know Manny is very suspect but the others he had no excuse to not fight when they were knocking on his door. Instead he fought, oscar who was shot, ricky hatton, and not to mention baldomir (club fighter) If and when floyd retires which he will soon, I believe boxing will be better! You have fighters like bradley and the 140 who all want to fight the to prove they are champs. Also We will get a huge star from who ever wins the super six. Do any of you agree?? Not making excuses but, all the guys you mentioned were all guys that were supposed to be threats. Brian Kenny ran off a list of guys Floyd supposadly was avoiding Baldi/Hatton/Mosley. If you were a fan of boxing back then you'd know this... The Cotto thing, as much as I wish he'd fought him (Bob wouldnt have allowed it) Floyd by WIDE UD. P Will... Would have loved it, big problems but Tana showed how to beat him. Plus high risk, very low reward (as far as buisness goes) Marg? well in a way it was a good thing, but Marg was never really on elite status Plus, why fight for 8mil/no belts when you can fight for 8 plus the belts... IMO if the money and situations were rite, Floyd fights., If the buisne$$ is bad he turns his back, no matter who

If you think he doesn't need it then you don't know his history or the real economics in boxing. Its not abouthis fans its about casual fans the ones that pay big money to see him and ODH and SRl and Tyson and Ali. You just have to understand the difference. Hagler (my favorite), Manny, hearns, Cotto, Trinidad are all great fighters who made real good money. But the guys above are doubling and tripling what they made. so you mean its ok for upcoming fighters to emulate floyd to earn their share of the "economic pie" you were saying? dude, thats what im trying to say, boxing will never be any better if fighters will be like floyd, you can never have the fight you want to see. its combat people want to see. boxing had its heyday when fighters fight the next best fighter or seek other challenges. pacquiao seek challenges, he goes on challenging his capability taking risk, even if haters tells him he is dumb by only following arum and not deciding for himself but you see from what hes doing its more than business for him. he seek not only the financial gain but also for the glory, for his countrymen, for the sports, are you blind that you cannot see, he loves the sport of fighting he savors it, he salivates to new challenges, cant you see the smile on his face, he laughs during staredown, hes like imagining the war hes going to inside the ring and he cherishes them. daym thats the fighter right there. i will not blame you if what you preferrred are those phoney staring down wanting to psyche out their opponents but when inside the ring at a sign of trouble covers up or clinch or one even jumped out. look at floyd now, going ustream after pac-marg became official, see what im trying to say, hes a distraction, blabbering like a fagget, thats unnecessary. he wanted to hog the limelight hes so insecure.

mayweather is the king of boxing mayweather is on vacation from boxing. he will be on vacation for as long as pacquiao is in boxing.

dude, one should know whens hyping is enough and overstretching it. when ones doing things already unnecessary for hype its called by other name its called insecurity. let me clear this out to you i have no beef in ones hyping his own fight. its unnecessary dude cant you see? hes got fans like you and the others he doesnt need to hype it and act that way. even that name money, i think he used that to sound like manny. If you think he doesn't need it then you don't know his history or the real economics in boxing. Its not abouthis fans its about casual fans the ones that pay big money to see him and ODH and SRl and Tyson and Ali. You just have to understand the difference. Hagler (my favorite), Manny, hearns, Cotto, Trinidad are all great fighters who made real good money. But the guys above are doubling and tripling what they made.

floyds antics are not good models for boxers, admit that, can you stand boxers imitating floyds antics once they get to be ranked at the top? No different than anyone who is in the top spot thats my only point. Don't blame floyd, blame the economic realities and politcs within the sport. Besides, all you are talking about is how he hypes his fights. Dude is always in shape and is a master of his craft, can we at least agree on that? dude, one should know whens hyping is enough and overstretching it. when ones doing things already unnecessary for hype its called by other name its called insecurity. let me clear this out to you i have no beef in ones hyping his own fight. The wads of cash the flash yeah it may be nauseating at some point. But before all this he wasn't making any real dough. I won't blame him for taking on the Money May persona and running with it. its unnecessary dude cant you see? hes got fans like you and the others he doesnt need to hype it and act that way. even that name money, i think he used that to sound like manny.

i like how pacman fights, i like fighters, the one that goes bang bang bang, ok? i dont like dramas lke what floyds doing, flaunting stacks of or wads of money fake or not it doesnt have anything to do with boxing it doesnt help boxing any, thats for WWE. ok? floyds antics are not good models for boxers, admit that, can you stand boxers imitating floyds antics once they get to be ranked at the top? thatll be the end of boxing, prolly mcmahon will own top rank and gbp. floyds antics are not good models for boxers, admit that, can you stand boxers imitating floyds antics once they get to be ranked at the top? No different than anyone who is in the top spot thats my only point. Don't blame floyd, blame the economic realities and politcs within the sport. Besides, all you are talking about is how he hypes his fights. Dude is always in shape and is a master of his craft, can we at least agree on that? The wads of cash the flash yeah it may be nauseating at some point. But before all this he wasn't making any real dough. I won't blame him for taking on the Money May persona and running with it. Just like I don't blame Manny for taking $22.5 for fighting Marg.

EXACT same thing. Each has the same attitude, charachter flaws and money motivated selection of opponents. i like how pacman fights, i like fighters, the one that goes bang bang bang, ok? i dont like dramas lke what floyds doing, flaunting stacks of or wads of money fake or not it doesnt have anything to do with boxing it doesnt help boxing any, thats for WWE. ok? floyds antics are not good models for boxers, admit that, can you stand boxers imitating floyds antics once they get to be ranked at the top? thatll be the end of boxing, prolly mcmahon will own top rank and gbp.

what??? are you for real? EXACT same thing?? aww come on. youre telling me how i see things now? you didnt even know me... daym delusions.. EXACT same thing. Each has the same attitude, charachter flaws and money motivated selection of opponents.

boxing will move on to the top. hes only a distraction. boxings not him, boxing will be better off without boxers like him. Thats your original post I responded to. Manny does the EXACT same things floyd does. You just choose to see it differently because you like Manny. what??? are you for real? EXACT same thing?? aww come on. youre telling me how i see things now? you didnt even know me... daym delusions..

We already have a bunch of new Mayweathers in the making - their names are Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander and Amir Khan. Those 3 already think they're cash cows, yet in the grand scheme of things they've barely done anything.

huh?!!!??? whered you come from homie? here you go, suck on this :bottle: boxing will move on to the top. hes only a distraction. boxings not him, boxing will be better off without boxers like him. Thats your original post I responded to. Manny does the EXACT same things floyd does. You just choose to see it differently because you like Manny.

SO boxing is better off if floyd and manny retire? huh?!!!??? whered you come from homie? here you go, suck on this :bottle:

boxing will move on to the top. hes only a distraction. boxings not him, boxing will be better off without boxers like him. SO boxing is better off if floyd and manny retire?

boxing will move on to the top. hes only a distraction. boxings not him, boxing will be better off without boxers like him.

mayweather is the king of boxing

Pac's real weight now is 140 lbs. Tell all those big challengers to drain themselves and fight Manny at his weight. Pac's giving them favors for big money. The fight Tim Bradley at 140 instead of Marg.

It will for me, he is nothing but a prima donna who talk lots of **** about being the best but carefully selects his opponents when they are ready to be taken. Id rather see less talented fighters like Cotto fighting the best and putting on a show.

Just like Pacquiao, though great, he's only one fighter. It wouldn't be that different.

The question u asked me was regarding something else. Not this. Get your facts straight. Here's the question u were hounding me to answer. Originally Posted by Big Dunn If you feel so then please answer the same question I posed to deevel916. Which top rank story do you believe?: 1. Margarito's interview in February where he says Bob promised him Nov. fight with Manny? 2. SEVERAL quotes from both Pac and Arum in regards to them both wanting a Nov 13th showdown with Floyd? This is where you and other Manny fans get stuck. Lets just leave floyd out of it and decide whci top rank story you believe Bob/Tony or Bob/Manny? And my answer was.... Bob Arum has made it clear, that despite plans for Pac/Margarito being underway, his door will remain open should Floyd be interested again. Heres the thread link in case u need to refresh your memory. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417603&page=25 Now to answer your NEW question..... Floyd was offered $8mil for a fight with Margarito. He went on the record to say himself that he made $1 more for fighting Baldomir. Me personally, I would have fought Margarito for 1 dollar less and silenced the critics. As for Oscar, I dont blame Floyd for fighting Oscar, but when the fight with Cotto was practically being pushed down his throat, he made 101 excuses as to why he doesnt want to fight him. Excuses ranging from he needs to be his own ceo, to he lives in PR. This wasa something completely different and you ducked that too. Now to answer your NEW question..... Floyd was offered $8mil for a fight with Margarito. He went on the record to say himself that he made $1 more for fighting Baldomir. Me personally, I would have fought Margarito for 1 dollar less and silenced the critics. As for Oscar, I dont blame Floyd for fighting Oscar, but when the fight with Cotto was practically being pushed down his throat, he made 101 excuses as to why he doesnt want to fight him. Excuses ranging from he needs to be his own ceo, to he lives in PR. Respectfully, there is no way you fight a fringe champ in Margarito instead of the lineal and undisputed champion in Baldo. I'll take you at your word but don't act like the WBO title would have given floyd more respoect in 2006 then the lineal undisputed title. You can't seperate the two. Bob told floyd he couldn't get $10 mil for cotto or $20 mil for ODH. There was no Marg/ODH option. There were 2 options: stay with top rank and get (maybe) $16 mil or leave top rank for the potential $20-$25 mil with ODH after Baldo. I find it hard to believe you would take the Cotto/Marg option.