manny pacquiao exposed for ducking opponents

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/000-1007162622-pot_kettle.jpg Serious question. Have you ever posting something on this site that wasn't concerning Floyd or Manny?

I dont think I ever seen someone say he should fight at 160. Hes fighting at JMW. No excuse for him to not fight Martinez who is basically the same size as Oscar and Marg. Ok I get it. Manny is ducking Martinez. There is no point in arguing with someone like you who is biased and has an agenda in mind every time you post.

Cool. I know that but again why is he expected to face the #1 and #2 MW's. He could but if he doesn't that is not cherry picking. Me bringing that up was only for the sake to show where Manny was only two years ago and to expect him to face the two best MW's is ridiculous. Now one in the history of the sport was held to those standards.....yet Manny is? I dont think I ever seen someone say he should fight at 160. Hes fighting at JMW. No excuse for him to not fight Martinez who is basically the same size as Oscar and Marg.

mike his next fight is 20 pounds heavier than that my dude And Margarito will outweigh him by about 15 pounds in the ring. Is there some point that you're trying to make? And Pac is weighing about 3 or 4 pounds more in the ring than he was at 130 years ago. That's some weak a$$ PEDs.

mike his next fight is 20 pounds heavier than that my dude Cool. I know that but again why is he expected to face the #1 and #2 MW's. He could but if he doesn't that is not cherry picking. Me bringing that up was only for the sake to show where Manny was only two years ago and to expect him to face the two best MW's is ridiculous. Now one in the history of the sport was held to those standards.....yet Manny is?

You're a funny guy man :rofl: Not as funny as you. When some debunks your argument.....it's "Ohh Manny is on PED's" I get it man Manny is on PEDs Manny is a Cherry picker Manny hasn't fought black fighters All of Manny's opponents are fast forward brawler.

Okay I see I'm dealing with trolls right now.....I'm done with this thread, unless someone wants to talk boxing. mike his next fight is 20 pounds heavier than that my dude

Okay I see I'm dealing with nothing but trolls right now.....I'm done with this thread, unless someone wants to talk boxing instead of flaming. You're a funny guy man :rofl:

Are we really still on Pac fighting at 130 not to long ago?? The hell. His next fight is 20 Pounds heavier than that. Time to get off that shyt. They act like PEDs haven't helped him. I agree, it's annoying. Okay I see I'm dealing with trolls right now.....I'm done with this thread, unless someone wants to talk boxing.

Are we really still on Pac fighting at 130 not to long ago?? The hell hes fighting at Junior Middleweight now . Time to get off that shyt. They act like PEDs haven't helped him. I agree, it's annoying.

Are we really still on Pac fighting at 130 not to long ago?? The hell. His next fight is 20 Pounds heavier than that. Time to get off that shyt.

the fact that you condone manny going for a belt at a weight class neither guy campaigns at but at a MANNYWEIGHT, says how much of a cheerleader you are. and hes fighting a proven cheater. ridiculous. you should def change your name back to TOP PRANK. You putting words in my mouth. I never said I condoned the catchweight. I personally wish it was at 147 so everyone would just shut up about it already.

You said "What was the point" in that qoute man. Also, I never claimed Pacquiao was ducking Paul Williams or Martinez, I said those two would pose an even bigger threat to Pacquiao then Margarito. I also said that despite them not having a title, beating those two would be more credible then beating Margarito and that's real! Okay....I could have sworn you made that claim, but if not I'll back track. Imdazed has his pu$$y hurt because I son his a$$ all the time, and if you think about my comment, in context with what I said in that thread, then I can't see anything wrong my statement. I said what's the point in fighting Williams at 147, because in that same thread I suggested Williams takes a fight at 147 to show that he is comfortable at that weight. If he goes to 147 and loses to Manny, then there will be a ton of excuses such as Williams was weight drained or why didn't he face him at 160 where Williams was fighting his last few fights there. To me it's a lose lose situation because no matter what there will be nothing but excuses if he wins. Hell if he knocks him out.....Manny is defiantly on PED's, according to a lot of posters on here. I do agree that beating those would do more for Manny, but I got to be reasonable for a second. Manny is not going to face those guys yet until he feels more comfortable at a higher weight. Martinez, IMO, is one of the top 5 fighters in the world and Manny will be giving up 5 inches in height, 9 inches in reach, against a fighter who probably hits harder than him and is faster as well. It's a process and it's not reasonable for Manny to jump to a weight he has no idea he will do good at against a guy like Martinez. There is being brave and then there is being flat out stupid. Manny takes on Martinez next, then he is a complete idiot. Maybe in a year when he gets more comfortable, but not right now.

i got nothing against pac. its roach who pisses me off, he said "we told shane 143 or theres no fight. why should shane have the advantage"..wtf if weight is an issue why bother moving up. to me that makes pac look bad. i dont know how much hes involved with negotiations but dont fight one guy at 145 and let the next guy fight at 147.cause imo that gives pac haters every reason to run they mouth.

dude, get off that "manny fought at 130 not long ago" crap. dude should have moved up long ago, if he was so great. I only bring that up to point out where he was not too long ago. Take any body at 130 and 135 and make a thread stating in 2 years if they don't fight Martinez (I know he is up in age but for argument purposes) they are ducking top competiton. If in two years Jorge Linares doesn't fight Kelly Pavlik at 160 he is a cherry picking bum. If Devon Alexander doesn't fight Alfredo Angulo in a year at 154 he is a ducking top Junior Middleweights. I use this to point out while this could happen, no rational person would hold these fights against these fighters or make these claim....unless your an idiot or completely biased. Like I said, according to Imdazed....Manny is cherry picking because he is not fighting the #1 MW in the world. How fukkin stupid is that?

I think you should really go back and read why I responded the way I did. Big Dunn stated that Manny hasn't faced a top guy above 140. He claimed that Mayweather did because Baldomir was ranked #1. So my reply was in response to his claim which I quoted. But I see what you are doing. Your in cheerleader mode right now. Also what I said in that Imdazed quote is true. Manny is not going up to a higher weight class unless a title is on the line. Like I said before, you honestly think Roy would have went up to HW if there was no belt on the line? What about B-hop? Do you think he would fight Haye if no title is on the line? If anyone needs to open their eyes..... it's you. I've notice you only see and hear sh1t that fits your agenda and throw all rationality out the window. Again listen to the claims you are making.....claiming Manny is ducking Williams and Martinez the #1 and #2 MW in the world, when Manny fought at 130 not even that long ago. I mean do you realize how stupid that sh1t sounds? You said "What was the point" in that qoute man. Also, I never claimed Pacquiao was ducking Paul Williams or Martinez, I said those two would pose an even bigger threat to Pacquiao then Margarito. I also said that despite them not having a title, beating those two would be more credible then beating Margarito and that's real!

He gets it. It's his bias that f*cks him up. Ohh really....Like I said, if Manny doesn't fight the #1 MW in the world, when he has never wieghed more than 149 it's considered a duck to you? Again how Is that being biased....I thinks it's called having a brain. Only a dumbass would say Manny is ducking Martinez....a guy who is the #1MW in the world. I guess Roy ducked Lennox Lewis when he went on the fight Tarver after Ruiz? i wouldnt call those wins huge against a badily faded judah and a narrow win over mosley which could have gone either way. but again, Floyd is the top dog. if cotto want the fight, he would have called floyd out. Those were huge wins for the simple fact that they put Cotto on the Map as far as being a top WW. Also why are you so defensive. I never said Floyd ducked Cotto...rather that was a win that could have added to his legacy.....considering the buzz Cotto had at the time. Now if you want to deny this, then more power to you. Damn O.S.I.R.I.S., you're so simplistic :lol1:. Here's a clue to debating: before asking a question, ask yourself if your thesis holds up to that same line of reasoning. It will help you, trust me. Do you keep guys at #1 just because? Tell me something - what fight did Hatton prove to you he was still the top guy at 140, after Floyd beat the life out of him? Was it his thrilling win over the dangerous Paulie Malignaggi? Or watching wobble around the ring like a wino against Lazcano the lightweight? Here's a suggestion....instead of googling PED articles, you should spend more time learning about the sport...even though that sh1t was just a year ago and is common knowledge. It's easy to say Bradley should have been the top 140lb now that he has a little buzz going, but again, no credible boxing writer or anyone who followed the sport was or would have said Bradley was the top guy at 140 during that time. Everyone was jocking Ortiz as a potential top guy, but it was universally recognize by everyone, including you, that Hatton was the best WW....so quit that second guessing and changing history b.s. Bradley had a decent win over witter, a guy who was crushed by Judah, an impressive win over Holt. That was in now way, shape or form enough for anyone to say he was a better fighter than Hatton.

Man, You put too much emphasis on ranking, PLEASE STOP. I mean, look at the quote on his signature. Doesn't that say something? I'm not gonna lie though, I used to do the same crap. Just follow your eyes man. I think you should really go back and read why I responded the way I did. Big Dunn stated that Manny hasn't faced a top guy above 140. He claimed that Mayweather did because Baldomir was ranked #1. So my reply was in response to his claim which I quoted. But I see what you are doing. Your in cheerleader mode right now. Also what I said in that Imdazed quote is true. Manny is not going up to a higher weight class unless a title is on the line. Like I said before, you honestly think Roy would have went up to HW if there was no belt on the line? What about B-hop? Do you think he would fight Haye if no title is on the line? If anyone needs to open their eyes..... it's you. I've notice you only see and hear sh1t that fits your agenda and throw all rationality out the window. Again listen to the claims you are making.....claiming Manny is ducking Williams and Martinez the #1 and #2 MW in the world, when Manny fought at 130 not even that long ago. I mean do you realize how stupid that sh1t sounds?

Whatever happen to the story that he's on PEDs? If he's willing to fight Mayweather (the guy who destroyed Mosley) as long as he's on PEDs, why would he be ducking Mosley of all people? Of course, I don't actually believe he's on PEDs, but the mayweather fans can't claim he's ducking and that he's on PEDs at the same time. because Mosley would be on PEDs too :lol1:

Hmmm. Floyd was at welter from 2006-2007. And then from 2009-present. Shane was at welter from 1998-present. True. 2005 to 2008.He fought Mitchell,one of his greats WW wins,in 2005 at 147. He could have fight Shane when he was a lighweight or lightWW as well. He never fought Tszyu when both were at 140 in those days,he never tried to fight the bests.He never did,Pacquiao did,now rewrite history as you can. He picked an old Mosley coming from a fluke win against an exposed cheater and fraud Margo. I'm not judging. Mosley being old and having a lay off are facts,I'm not saying he was shot wich is subjective.