Victor Ortiz and Saul Alvarez in the gym(PIC)

I don't support ginger Spaniards.What about meztizo's? Because that's 80% of Mexico's population and you are meztizo too. We just have to support all Mexican's and accept the fact that Mexico is multicultural but we are all tied together.

ortiz must be thinking, "damn, id bomb this ginger cunt out in 2 rounds"

Nice find. Both very talented with question marks, should at least give us some entertaining bouts in the future in case it does not work out with P4P supremacy.

Yeah I know what you mean man... that's why sometimes I get heated when posters on this forum just call mexicans "face first warriors" or silly little comments like that when they don't know that most do it to please their fans and to give people in a bad economy some great entertainment. they just don't understand. 1. there's a lot of skilled mexican fighters it's just they want to please their fans. 2. the ones that are not as skilled has to use their heart , pressure , toughness to win fights for them. not everyone can be ray leonard and dance you know.

Alvarez is already not really THAT comfortable making 147 and he's not that big for 154 either so I can't really see him even being a 3 weight world champ. Yeah like most mexicans do :nonono: Like Morales, I wish he stayed with that spring of his backfoot and fighting from the outside throughout his career. mexican machismo. it's great but sometimes not for some boxers. great for us fans though. mexican fans love wars (who doesn't?) and mexican boxers always try to please their fans (god bless them) plus you know every mexican/mexican-american fighter wants to be like their favorite mexican fighters too.

I'm not sold on Alvarez yet, I feel he's going to be a big let down to us Mexican people so I'm not fully on the bandwagon like most of Mexico is. I mean yea he's a kid but they're selling him like if he's going to become the next JCC and when they throw him in with the lions too soon it'll be Vargas all over again. With the way Khan has been using the Mayweather tactics I think so too. Ortiz.... We'll first I have too see if he can get his "vicious" back. Lopez I do believe he's going to be P4P great, Korobov I haven't seen much of him to make my judgement. ortiz will be fine. i think it might be in his best interest not to be "vicious" anymore. he has the skills and size to be an excellent boxer puncher. slugging it out with maidana was his only mistake. he could have boxed maidana's ass off he just fought smart.

I'm not sold on Alvarez yet, I feel he's going to be a big let down to us Mexican people so I'm not fully on the bandwagon like most of Mexico is. I mean yea he's a kid but they're selling him like if he's going to become the next JCC and when they throw him in with the lions too soon it'll be Vargas all over again. With the way Khan has been using the Mayweather tactics I think so too. Ortiz.... We'll first I have too see if he can get his "vicious" back. Lopez I do believe he's going to be P4P great, Korobov I haven't seen much of him to make my judgement. alvarez will be good. he got good skills and size and he's still young. he's a boxer though so i hope he doesn't try to change and be a slugger to please his fans.

LMAO I know right, He was talking shit about the Mexican player Chicharito and after he looked good in the World Cup he started nut hugging the shit out of him :lol1: i got alvarez in the top 10 p4p in a few years. ortiz will be there in about 2. khan maybe next year. lopez this year or next. korobov in 3 years or so. alvarez , ortiz , khan , lopez , korobov. those are the young guns i'm rooting for. (though lopez and korobov are already 27)

I don't support ginger Spaniards. when alvarez and ortiz are top 10 p4p , rich loc will jump on the bandwagon and find his mexican pride again. :lol1:

Ortiz vs Alvarez would be a good fight in the future... http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_231c5a6 ummmm..... i don't want that fight....... ortiz can stay at 140. he can move up to 147 when canelo is at 154. :)

Hey Canelo if you're the next JCC when might you step it up and stop fighting at 150? I don't like you and Oscars way of reasoning that it's "OK" for you to be having catch weighs of 150 until you're ready for a title at 147. Means that Canelo is fighting in the brand new Jr middle middleweight division! Well if he gets a title,He would have to make the 147 limit.So he's not gonna keep fighting at 150.He's fighting every other month,So he dont wanna strain his body to much making 147.

Alvarez Got to love the red headed mexican warrior.

Ortiz vs Alvarez would be a good fight in the future... http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_231c5a6 Sure would be a good fight,It will be big,If they keep on winning.