That if you weigh in at 151 in this case, you are over weight. You see what we are all saying here? So in a sense this fight involves diva attributes and divides a weight division and makes its own, 148-150. All of this while Arum and Pac cash in on history & the further growth of Pacquiao's image of having held titles in 8 divisions while doing the very same thing that all fight fans always talk shit on..."picking and choosing."
And no, Sugar Ray Leonard blowing up a bus full of children does not make it OK for any other boxer to do it as well.
147.1 - 150 is not a weight division.
If Pac comes in at 150, fine, but he should not restrict another fighter more than the rules already do, as far as weight is concerned.
Can't fight a 154 pounder? Then don't.
Want to fight Margo with a catch? Fine, but not for a belt.
If Mayweather did this with a Cotto fight, I'd be right here saying the same stuff I am now. It's a cheap tactic. But here's the thing. I would have expected it from Floyd since he's all about controversy. The fact that it's Pacquiao is what's really frustrating. I expected better. =/
haha either i wrote it/ or you read it wrong
there was a misunderstanding..
i meant that the people that would crucify Floyd with such tactics are the same people who are okay with Manny doing it.
lets wait for him to prove it, sucka.
Prove that at some point he never considered it until Floyd Sr said it? How do you prove your thoughts, exactly? What a dumbass. Like every thought needs to be posted on here or some sh*t.
Many posters and bloggers continue to write as though there is only one weight in a division. For example, 154 lbs in the Jr middle. All divisions have a given range-148 to 154 in Jr middle, for example. Thus,154 is the upper limit, one more pound and you're out. Anyone who hangs on to this poundage and who is 5'11" tall, most likely is a middle weight but wants the added advantages of fighting smaller opponents. If you ask me who gains more fighting at 150 lbs, Pacquiao or Magarito, I would say neither, the weight evens things out. Without catch weights, a 148 pounder would have to face 154 pounder! This doesn't make sense! The only remedy, which also doesn't make sense, would be to have a division for each pound! In other words, if we have boxers ranging from 100 lbs to 250 lbs, we would have 150 weight divisions and titles. At least, we wouldn't need catch weights.
not too mention. JMW division hasnt been around for more than what 10-15 years or so?? Maybe a little more. It was WW then MW.....
i didnt say he beat Floyd, he landed a lot on him. I saw the fight, you look at stats.....
Dude, I watched the fight, Marquez was throwing wild hooks and uppercuts that Floyd constantly dodged. I've never seen a fighter look so frustrated. Floyd's face was flawless as always at the end of the fight. 12% is a joke, he landed 69 total punches. I don't agree with looking at only stats with close fights, but the stats speak for themselves on this one.
you dont have a mind of your own. Floyd Sr says Pac is on PEDS and you run w/it.
you never mentioned Pac and PEDS in the same sentence until the MAYWEATHERS started saying it. If so, PROVE IT.
Ill will wait.
Now they are mind readers.
Mind blowing.
Listen dont come to this site all drugged up or drunk because your not making sense and I dont want to call you dumb, so it must be that your on something. I feel dumb for having to explain this but here it goes:
If I make a statement on my opinion and stand by it, HOW THE F*** is it not "of my own mind":welcome::duh:
you dont have a mind of your own. Floyd Sr says Pac is on PEDS and you run w/it.
you never mentioned Pac and PEDS in the same sentence until the MAYWEATHERS started saying it. If so, PROVE IT.
Ill will wait.
and what i don't understand about this situation,
is that if Mayweather were to fight Cotto for his 154 belt at a catchweight
these same guys would be crucifying him.
people's bias towards their favorite fighters are just too disappointing at times. :nonono:
If Mayweather did this with a Cotto fight, I'd be right here saying the same stuff I am now. It's a cheap tactic. But here's the thing. I would have expected it from Floyd since he's all about controversy. The fact that it's Pacquiao is what's really frustrating. I expected better. =/
Well considering he has to eat 6 large meals a day plus protain shakes and all kinds of other weight gain supplaments just to make 144 yeah I'm sure he could make 135 which is 3 full divisions lighter than the junuior middleweight division.
Seriously you guys act like im making this shit up they only showed him being force fed by Ariza like a fuking child on the Cotto and Hatton 24/7's on HBO. While everyone else is starving themselves to make the 147 limit Pac has to eat to make it to a meager 144 pounds. Oh yeah he's a future middleweight smart guy!No one said Pacquiao is a jr middleweight but you straight up said Pacquiao should be pampered and have things his way just because he used to fight at featherweight. Pacquiao could grab a belt at jr middle weighing in at 148, no one gives a fuck, but when he goes telling the other fighter what weight he has to weigh in at, that is bitch shit and diva like, especially when its for a title. Jr middle weight is from 148-154. So if you want to fight for the belt at that weight division and you weigh in at 148, you better be fucking ready for an opponent that might weigh in at 154 because BOTH of you will be JR MIDDLE WEIGHTS and 148-154 is the JR MIDDLE WEIGHT division. If you cant deal with a division than stay the fuck out of that division.
"Catchweight" is a misleading term
Many posters and bloggers continue to write as though there is only one weight in a division. For example, 154 lbs in the Jr middle. All divisions have a given range-148 to 154 in Jr middle, for example. Thus,154 is the upper limit, one more pound and you're out. Anyone who hangs on to this poundage and who is 5'11" tall, most likely is a middle weight but wants the added advantages of fighting smaller opponents. If you ask me who gains more fighting at 150 lbs, Pacquiao or Magarito, I would say neither, the weight evens things out. Without catch weights, a 148 pounder would have to face 154 pounder! This doesn't make sense! The only remedy, which also doesn't make sense, would be to have a division for each pound! In other words, if we have boxers ranging from 100 lbs to 250 lbs, we would have 150 weight divisions and titles. At least, we wouldn't need catch weights.
i didnt say he beat Floyd, he landed a lot on him. I saw the fight, you look at stats.....
marquez is a very smart fighter..
pacquiao had all the advantages, he was stronger, faster, weighed in both fights more etc., yet he still couldnt beat him.
what title did JMM and Floyd fight for again?
i guess the 144 title?
real boxing fans only worry about lineal titles or RING titles.
Like the JWW one Manny took from Hatton. BOO YA.
I remember when Floyd fought Zab for the IBF at WW LOL.............and he claimed it was a championship title fight.....ahahahhaah.
your statements "stand" lol..because you dont have a mind of your own.
Listen dont come to this site all drugged up or drunk because your not making sense and I dont want to call you dumb, so it must be that your on something. I feel dumb for having to explain this but here it goes:
If I make a statement on my opinion and stand by it, HOW THE F*** is it not "of my own mind":welcome::duh:
Wow what fight were you watching, JMM landed the 12% of his total punches to Floyd's 59%.
I love everyone points out the overhand he took from Mosely. The hit you guys constantly use to rip on Floyd didn't even knock him down. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Pac get knocked down by a jab once??
i didnt say he beat Floyd, he landed a lot on him. I saw the fight, you look at stats.....
Not in this case. Pacquiao the rule bender didn't let Cotto exceed 145 and won't let Margarito exceed 150.
Mayweather can't make his own rules. It's the NSAC's job! but let Pacquiao make his own weight classes dammit!
So whats your standing Jesus? Both fighters should be allowed to make up their own rules? or neither?