Floyd doesn't negotiate his own fights. Thats what his team is for. He can make demands and whatnot, but he is in no way a negotiator of his own fights. Thats why he hires people like Al Haymon and GBP. If he did negotiate his own fights,
why does he have a manager, and adviser and negotiating team?
dont listen to big dunn. He's allergic to objectivity. He said himself that floyd is bigger than the sport.
His reasoning? ESPN was talking about him, and supposedly they dont talk about anything that is boxing related but they were talking about floyd. And because they were talking about him, this made Floyd bigger than the sport. But during the small 1 minute segment they were calling him a coward the entire time, and Pacquaio was the headline.
But supposedly thats how Big Dunn determined that floyd was bigger than the sport. Look at his post history for proof.
The FLOMOS are on denial :D
I'm not really thinking about boxing right now. I'm just relaxing. I fought about 60 days ago, so I'm just enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family and enjoying my vacation.
its a plane! its a plane! its a plane! wwooppss no no no ITS A DUCK :D
Come on dude. I'm not blaming anybody for anything. Floyd didn't respond to top rank's deadline. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to fight. You are entitled to your opinion.
Just point your anger at the party responsible for it. Bob misled all of us in the press release. When he was asked about it live in interviews, he contradicted and clarified his own statements. Don't blame floyd or his fans for that.
does Floyd lived in a cave in order for him not to know every damned articles or negotiations or whatnot that surfacing in the news, net, forums etc?
all he had to do is either nod or decline to whatever Bob supposedly spurting out in the media
but instead he proceeds to ignore anything that relates to the fight
What the hell is wrong with these flomos???
"Bob never talked to Floyd."
"There were never any negotiations"
IT DOESNT MATTER FLOMOS!!!!
All Floyd ever had to do....and still all he has to do right now is say "FIGHT ON" and the negotiations become simply a formality. But as usual Floyd dont even wanna think the word Pacquiao lest he be exposed as the quivering puss that he is.
you live in a dreamland bobby and could never be a succesful bussinesman :loser: maybe in your village its enough to say fight on ! and some bums start fighting but thats not boxing my retarted friend
even if Bob talked to Floyd directly, they would say 'how do you know Floyd was listening?'
exactly man. I'm just tired of this dude. They clearly don't wanna fight, and next spring will be the same b.s. Hopefully Angulo, Chavez Jr., Alexander/Bradley will build themselves up so we can see potential fights against them. Also I'm hoping Manny passing the Margarito test with flying colors because I would love to see him fight Sergio Martinez as well.
What the hell is wrong with these flomos???
"Bob never talked to Floyd."
"There were never any negotiations"
IT DOESNT MATTER FLOMOS!!!!
All Floyd ever had to do....and still all he has to do right now is say "FIGHT ON" and the negotiations become simply a formality. But as usual Floyd dont even wanna think the word Pacquiao lest he be exposed as the quivering puss that he is.
me·di·a·tor /ˈmidiˌeɪtər/ Show Spelled Show IPA–noun
a person who mediates, esp. between parties at variance. One that mediates, especially one that reconciles differences between disputants. Main Entry: mediator
Did ross do any of these things? NO, according to Bob he relayed information between the camps. Again, would you call what Bob described as a negotiation? I would'nt.
manny's last 4 of 5 opponents have been over 30 too. This is a true statement right? ODH 147 and Cotto 145, again a true statement. There is likely a difference between mid 30's and over 30's. How much, you or I can't say. Funny, Shane was in his late 30's when he was the consensus #1 ww and whipped margs a$$. ODH was the 154lb champ at the time.
Uh, you clearly stated he was a "go between".
Now you're changing your stance? FOH.
and I said 4 of the last 5 Floyd opponents were in their mid 30s. Since you can't follow a basic conversation without trying to twist shit up, you're gonna have to get the ban stick.
Bye simpleton.
?? So Floyd didn't watch any tv or read any news to know that his camp and handlers were offered this fight? His team didn't tell him they were in talks?
Perhaps his phone was off the hook, then I guess he is off the hook too.
But when this all started why did he threaten to retire?
me·di·a·tor /ˈmidiˌeɪtər/ Show Spelled Show IPA–noun
a person who mediates, esp. between parties at variance. One that mediates, especially one that reconciles differences between disputants. Main Entry: mediator
Did ross do any of these things? NO, according to Bob he relayed information between the camps. Again, would you call what Bob described as a negotiation? I would'nt.
manny's last 4 of 5 opponents have been over 30 too. This is a true statement right? ODH 147 and Cotto 145, again a true statement. There is likely a difference between mid 30's and over 30's. How much, you or I can't say. Funny, Shane was in his late 30's when he was the consensus #1 ww and whipped margs a$$. ODH was the 154lb champ at the time.
remember when floyd said that all it takes to get a fight is to call out his name? :lol1:
i bet you his fans believed that shit too :D
Yup, just as when he said Manny was an easy fight, easy work and easier than Marquez.
Then he cries about "an even playing field", even though he just got done changing the rules in the Marquez bout.
Mediation has both sides at the table and an independent arbitrtator. By bob's own admission this didn't occur.
Just accept the fact that when Bob said negotiaitions in the press release you immediately thought of the dictionary definition and assumed the sides met to discuss it. Then when Bob indicated what really happened. he talked to ross and ross talked to Al. Clearly not a negotiation or a mediation. Ross was a go between or a mule.
Floyd fans didn't do this to you. Stop blaming us for the fact that Bob clearly overstated what really happened.
Look up sweetness.
SO since you are unable to refute my point, lets go with calling me a f@g.
Bob puts on good to great matchups, Floyd avoids them. There is no reason why 4 of his last 5 opponents were in their mid 30s when their was an entire welterweight division full of prime fighters ready and willing to tangle.
Funny, manny's last 4 of 5 opponents have been over 30 too. They also haven't all been at their true weight.
Bob himself said he didn't talk to floyd or his reps this time out, just Ross Greenburg. So I guess anyone who says that is actually telling the truth.
You have no point to refute. Its clear as day there was a mediator. You and every other queer Floyd supporter are trying to paint it as something else.
Over 30 and "mid 30s" is quite different. Being past 34 is much different than being less than 32. So, other than DLH, what other fighter was over the age of 34?
lol @ none of those guys being at their true weight. With the exception of DLH, who called out Manny, which fighter are you talking about?
Diaz, 32 when he fought Pac, career lightweight, knocked out by Pac, at,
lightweight.
DLH, 35 when he fought Pac, a career division jumper whos previous fight was at 150 because he was already planning on fighting at 147, stopped by Pac.
Hatton, 30 years old when he fought Pac, a career jr. welter and its reigning, lineal champion, knocked out by Pac in two.
Cotto, 29 when he fought Pac, a 9 fight career at welterweight where he had won titles and weighed in 5 times at 146, stopped by Pac.
Clottey, 32 when he fought Pac, a career welterweight who put up many a battle against some of the best in the division, beat by Pac.
So, which guys did he not fight at their true weights?
Again, do you not understand what a mediator is and does?
Here, I'll help you out again since you chose to ignore it the first time.
me·di·a·tor
/ˈmidiˌeɪtər/ Show Spelled Show IPA
–noun
a person who mediates, esp. between parties at variance.
One that mediates, especially one that reconciles differences between disputants.
Main Entry: mediator
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: person who negotiates agreement
Synonyms: advocate, arbiter, arbitrator, broker, conciliator, fixer, go-between, interagent, interceder, intermediary, intermediator, judge, medium, middle person, moderator, negotiator, peacemaker, ref, referee, rent-a-judge, troubleshooter, umpire
Notes: arbitrators make a decision/judgment but mediators do not
Antonyms: arguer, fighter
Of course you're not blaming anyone. You don't want your hero to look foolish. As it is though, Floyd mislead everyone, not Bob. Bob puts on good to great matchups, Floyd avoids them. There is no reason why 4 of his last 5 opponents were in their mid 30s when their was an entire welterweight division full of prime fighters ready and willing to tangle.
But again, Floyd does no negotiations himself. He has a team to do that. So you clowns need to stop it with this, "Bob never talked to Floyd himself, hes a liar and can't be trusted".
Bobs job is to negotiate fights, Floyds is to fight in the ring.
Nobody was mislead, you homos don't want to believe that Floyd ducked another fighter.
SO since you are unable to refute my point, lets go with calling me a f@g.
Bob puts on good to great matchups, Floyd avoids them. There is no reason why 4 of his last 5 opponents were in their mid 30s when their was an entire welterweight division full of prime fighters ready and willing to tangle.
Funny, manny's last 4 of 5 opponents have been over 30 too. They also haven't all been at their true weight.
Bob himself said he didn't talk to floyd or his reps this time out, just Ross Greenburg. So I guess anyone who says that is actually telling the truth.
when they can pin the blame on PAC or TR, they cry to the high heavens about it....when the blame is on Floyd, it becomes 'both or none of them can be blamed'
Or the forever classics,
"we just need to give Floyd time"
"I'll wait til Floyd himself says something to make it official".
Floyd - "I'm gonna retire for a year or two"
Floyd stan - "Oh you know how Floyd is, he just talks shit".
So, which is it? He needs the time which you said to give him and he gave you, but when he did, you said he was talking shit.
Now, hes on vacation, "he has to be fully into boxing, I don't blame him".
I wonder who flip flops more, Floyd or his stans?
Come on dude. I'm not blaming anybody for anything. Floyd didn't respond to top rank's deadline. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to fight. You are entitled to your opinion.
Just point your anger at the party responsible for it. Bob misled all of us in the press release. When he was asked about it live in interviews, he contradicted and clarified his own statements. Don't blame floyd or his fans for that.
Of course you're not blaming anyone. You don't want your hero to look foolish. As it is though, Floyd mislead everyone, not Bob. Bob puts on good to great matchups, Floyd avoids them. There is no reason why 4 of his last 5 opponents were in their mid 30s when their was an entire welterweight division full of prime fighters ready and willing to tangle.
But again, Floyd does no negotiations himself. He has a team to do that. So you clowns need to stop it with this, "Bob never talked to Floyd himself, hes a liar and can't be trusted".
Bobs job is to negotiate fights, Floyds is to fight in the ring.
Nobody was mislead, you homos don't want to believe that Floyd ducked another fighter.
When has anybody talked directly to Floyd during contract negotiations. If that were the case whats the use of having AL Haymon and Golden Boy on the Pay roll!!!
Seriously guys think for christ sake!!!
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mediation
Just accept the fact that Floyd, once again, acted like he wanted to fight a particular guy, but made every excuse not to.
Stop blaming boxing fans for wanting to see the best matchups.
Come on dude. I'm not blaming anybody for anything. Floyd didn't respond to top rank's deadline. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to fight. You are entitled to your opinion.
Just point your anger at the party responsible for it. Bob misled all of us in the press release. When he was asked about it live in interviews, he contradicted and clarified his own statements. Don't blame floyd or his fans for that.