Margarito committed one of the worst sins of the sport we all love so much with out even an apology. How can someone who calls themselves a "boxing fan" want to see him fight at this point?
For all the crap we (and I include myself) have shot back and forth at each other over floyd, pac, ost, ducking, etc etc. I would think this is something most of us would agree on.
Please explain how it is ok for Margarito to fight anyone right now?
Ok well if you know Margaritos career he was well known for his iron will chin and ridiculous punch out put.Now factor just in his punch output.In a fight with Joshua Clottey he threw 1675 punches and he landed 337 clean.Now factor in if he used plaster how could Joshua Clottey have survived to the end with the fact that plaster of paris adds more to your punches and not even be marked
The plaster doesn't weigh 10 lbs so it shouldn't lower punch output. But because clottey didn't get seriously hurt doesn't mean marg's gloves were not loaded.
Ultimately that is where I will always be with Marg. I don't know if I was watching a great clean fighter because he attempted to cheat against Mosley. None of us can be certain Marg earned his spot just with his skills.
Since I don't know that, but know he tried to cheat in the biggest fight of his career, I will assume he got away with cheating in his other big fights.
Ok so Mosely was in active for a similar ammount of time so since he hadn't done anything lately he was just another in the long line of shitty Floyd opponents right?
And keep watching Fedor tap out? How exactly does bringing up something that is completely unrelated to the subject make a box of rocks like yourself right?
Fedor lost yes and it also took 10 years to find someone to do it.
Pistol Shane did come clean. Marg still says he has no idea what happened. Thats why I think he should still be banned. I thought it was telling that nevada made him ask California for reinstatement 1st.
I strongly disagree. Plaster deosn't give you one punch KO power. It does make each punch more devastating such that the culmulative affect is greater. Same as pulling tweed out of the gloves.
And Brian M, I disagree too although I agree you would think by this time he would've been caught.
Ok well if you know Margaritos career he was well known for his iron will chin and ridiculous punch out put.Now factor just in his punch output.In a fight with Joshua Clottey he threw 1675 punches and he landed 337 clean.Now factor in if he used plaster how could Joshua Clottey have survived to the end with the fact that plaster of paris adds more to your punches and not even be marked
boxing is "what have you done for me lately".
and tony has done nothing to warrant a shot at manny.
facts are facts.
keep watching fedor tap out, nephew.
Ok so Mosely was in active for a similar ammount of time so since he hadn't done anything lately he was just another in the long line of shitty Floyd opponents right?
And keep watching Fedor tap out? How exactly does bringing up something that is completely unrelated to the subject make a box of rocks like yourself right?
Fedor lost yes and it also took 10 years to find someone to do it.
My man never ducked anybody son.
While your idol dicking around with a 9 loss journeyman and pretending to be WW champ, Margarito fought: Williams, Clottey, Mosley, Cintron, and Cotto.
How bout that shit?
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But he may well have cheated against all of them except mosley.
My man never ducked anybody son.
While your idol dicking around with a 9 loss journeyman and pretending to be WW champ, Margarito fought: Williams, Clottey, Mosley, Cintron, and Cotto.
How bout that shit?
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And while Floyd is looking to retire again, Margs is trying to get Pac in the ring.
he didn't bring any excitement in his fight with sugar shane.
dude was a glorified punching bag that got caught trying to cheat.
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I can still enjoy a good ass whipping. Margarito never quit in that fight despite getting punished. That's what you want a fighter to do, keep fighting no matter what. I can see how people don't like the guy but why would anybody be against getting to see an all action fight? No matter who wins Pac-Margarito will be entertaining. That's why I wanna see it.
He wasn't focused for that fight. Plus Shane held like a bitch all night.
and you girls talks about floyd making all these excuses?
have another drink, nephew..it will take the pain away.
:alcoholic
Margarito creates exciting fights. Nothing much more to it than that.
he didn't bring any excitement in his fight with sugar shane.
dude was a glorified punching bag that got caught trying to cheat.
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What? Margarito has done more in his career than all the 140 pound contenders put together and he doesn't deserve the shot?
My bad ! I though being a 3 time welterweight champion who was always mentioned as a fighter that the then #1 PFP fighter(Little Floyd) was always ducking was enough.
boxing is "what have you done for me lately".
and tony has done nothing to warrant a shot at manny.
facts are facts.
keep watching fedor tap out, nephew.
what has margacheato done to get this fight? nothing. just like josh clottey. nothing.
What? Margarito has done more in his career than all the 140 pound contenders put together and he doesn't deserve the shot?
My bad ! I though being a 3 time welterweight champion who was always mentioned as a fighter that the then #1 PFP fighter(Little Floyd) was always ducking was enough.
Pistol my man you don't. I was just asking a question. Makaveli hit me with that and I agreed. I'm not asking you to be like dunn. I'm just thinking loaded gloves is something we all can agree on.
And he was has been punished for it. What I don't agree with is now that he has been punished people still wanna pile on all these ridiculous extra punishments and that just makes me think that people are more intrested in revenge rather than make sure that the sport we love is clean at all times.
Like I said before most of the people who are being unreasonable about the whole thin often times hated Tony before he was caught with the handwraps to begin with.
il be glad to watch Tony fight, he aint a great fighter but he is good to watch,
as for the hand wraps, he aint killed anyone yet,
besides he aint gonna get away with that shit now that everyone knows.
so whats the problem.
Ever since people started accusing him these are the points id try to make these are the things Tony was renowned for.Now if all his career all he was was a one punch knock out star with nothing else and then he was discovered with plaster of paris of course his career would be questionable but he isnt that
I strongly disagree. Plaster deosn't give you one punch KO power. It does make each punch more devastating such that the culmulative affect is greater. Same as pulling tweed out of the gloves.
And Brian M, I disagree too although I agree you would think by this time he would've been caught.
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Seriously, I can bring up tons of fighters who break rules and fight dirty, why would you want to see them fight again?
Because we're fight fans.
Tony, although he isn't amongst my favorites anymore, always had high action fights that delivered in entertainment.
With that said,
how can you call yourself a boxing fan and want to see Floyd Mayweather fight again?
ouuuch...
i think 4 the simple fact that he's mexican people give him shit...
sad....
I know what you're saying, I'm just pointing out its not new at all and hardly a phenomenon.
As far as our (myself and other members of this site) research goes, Floyd roided for 40 fights. We had a 100 page discussion about it here and all evidence points to Floyd being one of the biggest users of PEDs in the past decade.
You can enjoy that brilliant classic here.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367230
You'll note the absence of many of Floyds most arduous defenders as there was literally no point they could make to oppose it. A few tried, but all of their shit got shut down with the quickness.
Don't always agree with you about boxing but i FVCKING LOVE the LA Lakers banner my dude.
Big Dunn why do I have to be a vengeful fanatical person in order to be a boxing fan according to you?
Pistol my man you don't. I was just asking a question. Makaveli hit me with that and I agreed. I'm not asking you to be like dunn. I'm just thinking loaded gloves is something we all can agree on.
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