I don't get it. Nothing wrong with him handling it with Ross because he's neutral plus it's only in his interest to have the fight happen. Floyd continues to sit with his thumb up his ass and you find your scapegoats somehow someway.
floyd fans in this site is buying into that conspiracy theory that no negotiation ever happened.
idk man, that excuse sounds ridiculous to me
:smashfrea Arum said that shit man
Only cats like you who are worried about the semantics of it.
After Arum claimed he had a deal with Golden Boy, you and every other Floyd hater/Pac worshipper on this site were arguing about the semantics. Now that Arum has admitted that he lied about everything, all of a sudden semantics don't matter? You and the others should just admit that you got played by Arum instead of making ridiculous justifications like this.
he had 2 weeks to look at the contract and say that he either liked it or didnt
he didn't even bother...for whatever reasons he has, Floyd doesn't seem interested in the fight
Floyd fans are defending the reasons, even though they dont really know all the details
everyone else is just looking at the big picture: no reply = no fight
thanks Floyd
no contract was sent according to arum no details on the terms are giving and you're bitching about people defending a guy while you blaming the guy without not knowing anything about anything.
I swear it's like all reasoning goes out of the window win it comes to Floyd vs Pac
Lmao, Arum has been exposed deal with it, " He has agreed a deal with GBP" weeks later " We never spoke to anyone from GBP or Team Mayweather" ...........Arum the Harvard graduate took all of you retards to school..
basically :cool2:
A coward like Floydie "Cash Cow-ard" Gayweather doesn't deserve to be defended even by retarded flomos.
I have to give credit for this one, I have never heard it before.
Of course they are, But this is about the " We have agreed a proposal with GBP" last week and yesterday " We never spoke to anyone from GBP" Arent you mad that Arum took someone like you for a fool?
I'm not mad at all. It was negotiated in a decent manner, with mediation both sides trusted.
Lets not act like Haymon is just some chumscrubber for Floyd now. Who cares that Greenburg was in the middle?
Only cats like you who are worried about the semantics of it.
Haymon represents Floyd, Arum represents Pac. Neither guy likes eachother, so what better way to do it than through a middleman both guys can deal with?
Goosen, Gary shaw, Di bella, Frank warren, Don king are all liars but Arum takes the biscuit, Arum is the only Promoter who uses the "Done deal" to make people believe that his fighters want fights that he might not want for them.
Now am not claiming Pac doesnt want the Mayweather fight or vice-versa but my point before everyone were talking arum's words for the GOSPEL last week was we know Arum likes to lie so lets not take his words and run with it but some decides Arum's words were good enough for them.
Mayweather might be the biggest trashtalker in boxing but thats after a fight is signed,sealed and delivered!!! Since he became the top name in boxing he has never called anyone out, or say anything about them unless he has a fight signed with them, I would love for him to come out and say something but if he want to leave Arum as the joke then so be it.
King is WAAAAAAY worse.
He may be the biggest mouth in boxing, but at a time when the world is begging for him to open his mouth, he is silent.
Im not sure how Arum can off as a joke here. Only one person looks like a fool and a joke....and its the man who claims to be the greatest ever
For you to ask this question shows me you only started following boxing recently, With that i just have to say to you please study up :boxing:
No i want you to tell me cuz you know
And what exactly has Arum lied about that makes him a pathological liar?
For you to ask this question shows me you only started following boxing recently, With that i just have to say to you please study up :boxing:
I can't believe people are trying to defend floyd's actions. if you want to bash arum all you want go ahead but it doesn't change the fact that floyd has been quiet the whole time it's almost like he disappeared off the face of the earth while Arum and Ross at least were trying to get a fight done. If Floyd were truly interested in fighting first he wouldn't have said a month ago that he was retiring for a couple years, second he would have either said no i don't like the deal i'm being offered or if there was no offer then he should have called arum out for being a lying bitch. But he has done nothing!
Floyd and his camp aren't liars?
I know you're having a rough day in light of whats happened recently, but you should really log off and get some sunshine, Sunshine.
Floyd once again proved hes a the most sissified "fighter", in history.
Of course they are, But this is about the " We have agreed a proposal with GBP" last week and yesterday " We never spoke to anyone from GBP" Arent you mad that Arum took someone like you for a fool?
Says who? Arum AGAIN? The man is a pathological liar!!! You are going on and on about Mayweather and phone did you call Mayweather himself? Or are you still getting taking for a MUG by Arum?
Like i said before Arum is a graduate from Harvard university while some of the people who believe and use every word of his probably didnt even finish secondary school so i could see how facts can hit them in the face but they still cant figure it out.
A promoters word is all boxing fans have to go by. We never see the contracts or hear what they are saying and to who. Your just simply picking on Arum when your decribing EVERY promoter out there.
And what exactly has Arum lied about that makes him a pathological liar?
he had 2 weeks to look at the contract and say that he either liked it or didnt
he didn't even bother...for whatever reasons he has, Floyd doesn't seem interested in the fight
Floyd fans are defending the reasons, even though they dont really know all the details
everyone else is just looking at the big picture: no reply = no fight
thanks Floyd
He didn't have to say he didn't like it. Everyone on the damn planet who follows boxing knew he didn't like it. Floyd clearly said no fight unless there is random drug testing up to the day of the fight. After Arum and Pac realized they ****ed up in fighting Clottey, Arum presented that bullshit 14-day cutoff proposal to him knowing it was no longer an option, told him he had two weeks to accept it, and told the media that he and GBP had agreed on terms. Then, everyone in the media and the haters on this site jumped on Arum's lies and started criticizing Floyd for not signing a one-sided contract.
My guess is that Floyd was hurt and insulted by Arum's comments and behavior during the first round of negotiations (if I were in his position, I would be also). Then he tries to accept terms that Floyd previously offered after belittling that offer, lying about the offer to the media and calling Mayweather every name in the book short of N....g.....r. To add insult to injury, he gives Mayweather ****ing deadline to accept his bogus offer!
No one on this message board who is hating on Floyd would want anything to do with Arum or any of his fighters if he treated you the same way he has treated Floyd. Yet, you ignorantly criciticze Floyd as if he should be grateful for the offer that Arum has made and for the opportunity to get in the ring with Pacquaio.
I am not defending Floyd because he has not made any excuses and there is nothing to defend. What I am saying is that, if I offer someone my help with a problem, and they choose to spit in my face and call me every name in the book because they don't like my offer, they damn well better not come back to me later and say, 'I'll accept the assistance you offered, but you have to do everything on my terms.'
I would do the same thing that Floyd has done. I would not bother to respond to their request. And if the people who insulted me (the media) and hated on me (the idiots on this board) for no justifiable reason before want to continue to hate and criticize, I would say "to hell with them!"
there is no doubt in my mind that arum is a liar, but who isn't in the boxing business?
but where do you think floyd is right now? everyone aside from mayweather fans are calling him a coward. for an alleged best trashtalker in the game, why the silence?
Goosen, Gary shaw, Di bella, Frank warren, Don king are all liars but Arum takes the biscuit, Arum is the only Promoter who uses the "Done deal" to make people believe that his fighters want fights that he might not want for them.
Now am not claiming Pac doesnt want the Mayweather fight or vice-versa but my point before everyone were talking arum's words for the GOSPEL last week was we know Arum likes to lie so lets not take his words and run with it but some decides Arum's words were good enough for them.
Mayweather might be the biggest trashtalker in boxing but thats after a fight is signed,sealed and delivered!!! Since he became the top name in boxing he has never called anyone out, or say anything about them unless he has a fight signed with them, I would love for him to come out and say something but if he want to leave Arum as the joke then so be it.
Flomos want to keep blaming Arum. but dela hoya himself said negotiations were ongoing and PBF was asking for 60/40. now PBF is silent because he killed the fight.
Let me summary it for you "Arum is a liar FACT"
Floyd and his camp aren't liars?
I know you're having a rough day in light of whats happened recently, but you should really log off and get some sunshine, Sunshine.
Floyd once again proved hes a the most sissified "fighter", in history.
Eeexactly. Arum has pushed and he's pushed, knowing exactly what Floyd is like, and he's managed to sabotage the fight through antagonising the notoriously egotistical Floyd Mayweather at every possible opportunity. If he'd approached negotiations with any degree of tact and showed any hint of willingness to compromise or meet in the middle, I'm sure things would have gone a lot smoother and Floyd wouldn't have been so alienated.
You could be right, none of us knows what's happened, or what' s happening. But let me ask you this; Arum has a brilliant fighter who has recently but definitely embarked on avastly different career, and who, because of that, could leave boxing at any time, whocouldn't have any more than a couple of fights left, regafdless of his supposed comment that he intends to keep fighting.
And he has the potentially biggest money making fight in the history of boxing, in which all concerned stand to make the largest amount of money ever. So why would Arum sabotage this fight which would make history, with all their names associated with it for posterity?
I think that this is hard to answer, exdept one way.
Let me summary it for you "Arum is a liar FACT"
there is no doubt in my mind that arum is a liar, but who isn't in the boxing business?
but where do you think floyd is right now? everyone aside from mayweather fans are calling him a coward. for an alleged best trashtalker in the game, why the silence?
I suppose, being a highly qualified lawyer, Arum has the facility of saying something which might sound the opposite of what he really means, and vice versa. Lawyers have tricky minds by nature, they can't help it.
And they normally never "outgrow it".
Let me summary it for you "Arum is a liar FACT"
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