Bob Arum: "Pac would not fight without Freddie Roach"

stop spamming or you will be reported Ohhhh............the irony!!!

I can give a rats ass about any of this bs. You guys are bitching about a hypothetical situation that may not even be an issue. And who got you guys all hot and bothered over a non-issue...that's right Mr. Bob Arum. Grow up. I was simply responding to your post. Like I told Jro you dont like the thread.... You can get out of it. Posters and their high and mighty bullshit is getting annoying. Alot of whiny ass posters going around preaching about others threads yet these same posters make threads once a quarter.

He goes to trial in August. The fight would be in November. It would be conflicting big tie IMO. I want these guys to fight each other at their best. I dont want to see Manny without Roach and I dont want to see Floyd without Roger. I can give a rats ass about any of this bs. You guys are bitching about a hypothetical situation that may not even be an issue. And who got you guys all hot and bothered over a non-issue...that's right Mr. Bob Arum.

Scheduling affecting the fight. Pac was busy with legal issues, Roger MAY be busy. Funny thing is all this arguing and nobody even knows for sure if Roger won't be able to be there. Fight will have to be signed before his court dates even occur. He goes to trial in August. The fight would be in November. It would be conflicting big tie IMO. I want these guys to fight each other at their best. I dont want to see Manny without Roach and I dont want to see Floyd without Roger.

Obviously you don't cuz it is a stupid ass thread to make TS. you guys should both knock off the insults. My 2 cents cmon man that was against Baldomir you really cannot compare the two instances like some have said unless you have total access to Mayweather's gym while he is training for a fight you really do not know what Roger does or doesnt do? I heard his instructions with other fighters and the man clearly knows how to train. You guys want to discredit him fine but I think it shows a stance of either bias or hate rather than actual fact really no proof of this in fact I am not so sure Sr is a good trainer period. He made Oscar fight very un Oscar like, Hatton's camp was atrocious, and Mares told me he didn't like the way he trained you cannot be serious with this? maybe but wouldnt that be the same as Freddie telling Buboy what to work on? I could say all you guys do is find reasons to hate but I won't I personally think it's an interesting subject I agree with Earner. You want to talk further about it you can just PM me. Lets not make the thread "worse" then it already is.

What does campaigning have to do with someone not having their trainer? Scheduling affecting the fight. Pac was busy with legal issues, Roger MAY be busy. Funny thing is all this arguing and nobody even knows for sure if Roger won't be able to be there. Fight will have to be signed before his court dates even occur.

Obviously you don't cuz it is a stupid ass thread to make TS.

I actually can post and say how stupid it is to make so many damn threads about a subject that might be none damn issue. Since the stupid ass comment didn't come from Mayweather camp. Now if it would of came from Mayweather camp. Then OK i can see the point. But, until then and unless you going to have me on ignore. I can post and say how stupid it is to make so many dumbass threads about something that could be a none issue. The mods should merge this bullshit threads together since basically is the damn same subject. And "basically" you just posted the same thing twice.. we get it.

You dont like the thread you dont have to post in it. Its clear others posters do. I actually can post and say how stupid it is to make so many damn threads about a subject that might be none damn issue. Since the stupid ass comment didn't come from Mayweather camp. Now if it would of came from Mayweather camp. Then OK i can see the point. But, until then and unless you going to have me on ignore. I can post and say how stupid it is to make so many dumbass threads about something that could be a none issue. The mods should merge this bullshit threads together since basically is the damn same subject.

Anyway, Once again DeanRW hit the nail on the head. Good post.

Pacquiao is not Baldomir, and even then I guess Roger was able to train Floyd for the Baldomir as Cali mentioned. However, I don't understand why both fan bases are making such a big deal from a comment that wasn't even from team Mayweather camp. There are 4 threads of damn near the same subject, one was made by a Pac fan, the other by BPP, and the other 2 by Floyd fans.... For the love of god no need to make so many threads about a subject that might turn out to be a none issue. You dont like the thread you dont have to post in it. Its clear others posters do.

Pacquiao is not Baldomir, and even then I guess Roger was able to train Floyd for the Baldomir as Cali mentioned. However, I don't understand why both fan bases are making such a big deal from a comment that wasn't even from team Mayweather camp. There are 4 threads of damn near the same subject, one was made by a Pac fan, the other by BPP, and the other 2 by Floyd fans.... For the love of god no need to make so many threads about a subject that might turn out to be a none issue.

pistol whip;8775639]I understand all that and i agree with what you said but Floyd Choosing Rofger was out of necessity and not becasue he felt Roger was the better trainer.B] Floyd and Big Floyd were having personall issues and it had nothing to do with Jr not getting trained right. And the point has already been made. Why the negotiation if it was pretty obvious for over a year now that Roger could be going to jail. And how do you know this? Because you said it?

I don't blame Floyd at all for not wanting to fight Manny without Roger. He and Roger have real chemistry in there. Same with Manny and Roach. Neither guy would dare to risk fighting the other guy without their main guy in there with them. It would be risky and foolish.

Wait a second, weren't these same Flomos saying it was blatant ducking on Pac's part for asking to fight in November saying March was too late because he would be campaigning? LOL Arum's got the pink brigade out in full force today What does campaigning have to do with someone not having their trainer?

Wait a second, weren't these same Flomos saying it was blatant ducking on Pac's part for asking to fight in November saying March was too late because he would be campaigning? LOL Arum's got the pink brigade out in full force today

Because they just started getting along after he came back from retirement. And plus he didn't train him because Floyds bitch ass retired from the big tough challenges. So how could you even train somebody when they are retired ??? The reason Roger is training him, is because that's who Floyd wants to train him. Not because he retired, and not because of any other stupid reason anyone comes up with.

Because they just started getting along after he came back from retirement. And plus he didn't train him because Floyds bitch ass retired from the big tough challenges. So how could you even train somebody when they are retired ??? Floyd was retired in 2006???

They're getting along better now, why is Roger still his trainer and not Sr? You want him to be trained by someone he has trouble getting along with? Because they just started getting along after he came back from retirement. And plus he didn't train him because Floyds bitch ass retired from the big tough challenges. So how could you even train somebody when they are retired ???

Find a post where I said I'm in favor of it. I'm on record here several times saying that I'm sick of all this shit. But I'm on a discussion forum, and this is what's being discussed, so I'm discussing it. My argument has nothing to do with anyone's interests. I'm making a "shoe on the other foot" argument. People are saying Mayweather should have to do something they wouldn't ask Pacquiao to do. And I think that's stupid. I shouldnt be surprised. This same fan base enjoyed that Clottey couldnt have his real trainer.