Manny's plan will likely be to attack hard and fast early to try and keep Floyd on his heels and off balance. He might even back Floyd to the ropes and open up with combos. The question is can he hurt Floyd and can he sustain the attack without puffing himself out?
I don't see him getting tired.I can see Floyd adjusting and making Pac think too much just like JMM did.One thing about it Manny can't out think Floyd he has to make Floyd uncomfortable with the pace of the fight.If Pac starts to think tomuch he is done.
No offense taken.But it's all the same old same old.No?May's 40 have tried 40 have failed right?Floyd is smart,Floyd is fast,Floyd is defensive right?Listen I'm not by any means a great Floyd or Manny fan.I like both fighters and what they bring to the match.Manny is on another level and so is Floyd this is why this fight is so great and why everybody including us can't help but talk about it.You are right Pac has an in an out style but he also throws alot of punches and can swarm if he lands one shot.I know what ya thinking he can't hit Floyd because of his great defense(which he does have)and skill.But Manny will be the fastest opponent he has ever faced.The most skillfully aggressive fighter he has ever faced.All I'm saying is if you think Manny is a slacker or not a dangerous opponent then ya bugging.
Manny's plan will likely be to attack hard and fast early to try and keep Floyd on his heels and off balance. He might even back Floyd to the ropes and open up with combos. The question is can he hurt Floyd and can he sustain the attack without puffing himself out?
No offense, but you didn't really say anything besides the same old same old. "Pacquiao is fast, powerful, and tough..... Mayweather has trouble with pressure... ". I say that Mayweather has dealt with fighters who try to wear him down with pressure(outside of the 1st Castillo fight when he was basically fighting with 1 arm) just fine. I would also say that Pacquiao is not really a pressure/swarming fighter, he's an in/out fighter. The fight will come down to boxing skills. Pacquiao can be willing to take all the risks in the world, but if he doesn't have the boxing skills to land punches consistently at a decent percentage while effectively defending himself, then he's going to lose. It's as simple as that in my mind.
No offense taken.But it's all the same old same old.No?May's 40 have tried 40 have failed right?Floyd is smart,Floyd is fast,Floyd is defensive right?Listen I'm not by any means a great Floyd or Manny fan.I like both fighters and what they bring to the match.Manny is on another level and so is Floyd this is why this fight is so great and why everybody including us can't help but talk about it.You are right Pac has an in an out style but he also throws alot of punches and can swarm if he lands one shot.I know what ya thinking he can't hit Floyd because of his great defense(which he does have)and skill.But Manny will be the fastest opponent he has ever faced.The most skillfully aggressive fighter he has ever faced.All I'm saying is if you think Manny is a slacker or not a dangerous opponent then ya bugging.
how am i a fanboy when bernistein sees the fight going the way i do and what strengths pac has with his speed fast pace and combinations.
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-l...e-biz-part-one
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-...uture-part-two
Here's some excerpts:
Ryan Maquinana: Mayweather is the toughest match-up in the sport. Defensively, he’s almost perfect but he likes to fight in spurts. Do you think Pacquiao can apply sustained, accurate pressure for 12 rounds, enough anyway to restrict Floyd from establishing his offense? Personally, I think that if Manny can edge out the first four rounds on the cards, it will affect the whole complexion of the fight in his favor. If not, then Floyd will clearly win the decision. How would you see that fight playing out?
Al Bernstein: I think the key to that fight is going to be in the first five rounds. Pacquiao is a different fighter now. He’ll attack you but he’ll do it with movement from side to side and with more combinations. I’ve never seen a fighter re-invent himself the way Manny Pacquiao did and he’s got huge hand speed.
But somewhere in those first five rounds, Mayweather is going to land a right hand of significance. How Manny Pacquiao deals with that is going to give us a clue to how the fight’s going to go. If he’s hurt or knocked down or knocked out, obviously, then we have our answer. But if he isn’t and, up through those middle rounds and beyond, sustains his pace and makes Floyd Mayweather fight three minutes of every round, then I think you’d have to start looking at Pacquiao as the potential winner of that fight. Mayweather is a little bit bigger than Manny, in general, so I think Floyd will land something early. Even if Manny doesn’t get hurt and wins only one of the first five rounds, you’d have to assume he’d maybe be able to come out in those mid-to-later rounds.
RM: In 2002, THE RING released a list that proclaimed the 80 greatest fighters of the last 80 years. To name a few of the little guys, Henry Armstrong was at number two; Duran was at five; Willie Pep was one spot behind him and Pernell Whitaker rounded out the top ten. Based on each fighter’s body of work, where do Pacquiao and Mayweather currently stand in comparison with them?
AB: Interesting. The Pernell Whitaker doesn’t shock me. Now this will probably be a terrible heresy to say. Willie Pep was a great guy; I met him and I think he’s a terrific fighter but I think he’s overvalued by a lot of people. He lost all the time to Sandy Saddler, who controlled their series. I’m not sure why people continue to believe that Pep was the greater fighter. No question he was great but having him number six all-time, I just don’t get that.
Now Manny and Floyd. I’m not saying that Floyd has fought a total group of cupcakes. He hasn’t. And in some cases, other things have conspired for Mayweather to have the schedule that he’s had. He’s fought some very good fighters. But Manny Pacquiao has one thing going for him that Floyd doesn’t. He fought three other Hall of Famers in an era when those four—he, Morales, Barrera and Marquez—all could lay claim to the fact that it was probably the best featherweight or super featherweight division thatboxing has ever seen. Unfortunately, Marquez didn’t get in on enough fights in that period but at least he got in to contribute mightily. To me, that era when they were all fighting each other rivals the Hagler-Hearns- Benitez-Duran era. That’s how good they were. And I think that gives Manny a leg up on being higher on the list than Mayweather. They’d both be in the top 40 for sure. What numbers they’d be, I don’t know, but they’d both be up there.
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My gut tells me Pac beats Floyd for this reason:
"They all have a strategy until they get hit." - Mike Tyson
Pac will definitely be busier than Mosley but he won't rock Floyd like Mosley did...
No, you be honest. You're a fanboy not an objective fan.
check this interview by bernistein his views are close to mine i guess he is a fanboy to.
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-l...e-biz-part-one. http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-...uture-part-two Here's some excerpts: Ryan Maquinana: Mayweather is the toughest match-up in the sport. Defensively, he’s almost perfect but he likes to fight in spurts. Do you think Pacquiao can apply sustained, accurate pressure for 12 rounds, enough anyway to restrict Floyd from establishing his offense? Personally, I think that if Manny can edge out the first four rounds on the cards, it will affect the whole complexion of the fight in his favor. If not, then Floyd will clearly win the decision. How would you see that fight playing out? Al Bernstein: I think the key to that fight is going to be in the first five rounds. Pacquiao is a different fighter now. He’ll attack you but he’ll do it with movement from side to side and with more combinations. I’ve never seen a fighter re-invent himself the way Manny Pacquiao did and he’s got huge hand speed. But somewhere in those first five rounds, Mayweather is going to land a right hand of significance. How Manny Pacquiao deals with that is going to give us a clue to how the fight’s going to go. If he’s hurt or knocked down or knocked out, obviously, then we have our answer. But if he isn’t and, up through those middle rounds and beyond, sustains his pace and makes Floyd Mayweather fight three minutes of every round, then I think you’d have to start looking at Pacquiao as the potential winner of that fight. Mayweather is a little bit bigger than Manny, in general, so I think Floyd will land something early. Even if Manny doesn’t get hurt and wins only one of the first five rounds, you’d have to assume he’d maybe be able to come out in those mid-to-later rounds. RM: In 2002, THE RING released a list that proclaimed the 80 greatest fighters of the last 80 years. To name a few of the little guys, Henry Armstrong was at number two; Duran was at five; Willie Pep was one spot behind him and Pernell Whitaker rounded out the top ten. Based on each fighter’s body of work, where do Pacquiao and Mayweather currently stand in comparison with them? AB: Interesting. The Pernell Whitaker doesn’t shock me. Now this will probably be a terrible heresy to say. Willie Pep was a great guy; I met him and I think he’s a terrific fighter but I think he’s overvalued by a lot of people. He lost all the time to Sandy Saddler, who controlled their series. I’m not sure why people continue to believe that Pep was the greater fighter. No question he was great but having him number six all-time, I just don’t get that. Now Manny and Floyd. I’m not saying that Floyd has fought a total group of cupcakes. He hasn’t. And in some cases, other things have conspired for Mayweather to have the schedule that he’s had. He’s fought some very good fighters. But Manny Pacquiao has one thing going for him that Floyd doesn’t. He fought three other Hall of Famers in an era when those four—he, Morales, Barrera and Marquez—all could lay claim to the fact that it was probably the best featherweight or super featherweight division thatboxing has ever seen. Unfortunately, Marquez didn’t get in on enough fights in that period but at least he got in to contribute mightily. To me, that era when they were all fighting each other rivals the Hagler-Hearns- Benitez-Duran era. That’s how good they were. And I think that gives Manny a leg up on being higher on the list than Mayweather. They’d both be in the top 40 for sure. What numbers they’d be, I don’t know, but they’d both be up there. Top
guy, please shush.
be happy that pac was given the FOTD award b.c its going silly after he gets whooped on by floyd
why do you think more people know Floyd is going to be pac, what do you think floyd is the betting fav?
floyds betting primarily because of style and he is bigger, but pac fights better as an underdog and will suprise everyone once again.
I'm not convinced that Pacquiao is as great as people like you think that he is. Besides, you missed my point which is that it's presumptuous to think that Pacquiao has all the tools necessary to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is undefeated with only one close fight in his career. Noone really knows what it takes to beat Mayweather.
but be honest floyd has not looked for the toughest opposition above 135 thats why he looks untouchable. Pac will be the best fighter he has ever faced by far and he will loose.
I don't know. I would love to see him in the ring at 40 with Bradley or Alexander. I think th at he's a clear underdog against Mayweather.
2 people besides Mayweather and you don't think Pac is great? Sure he's no top 10 atg or anything but the man has proven his greatness at least as well as Mayweather has. Stylistically Mayweather may beat him but the fact Pac has come from a 126 brawler to even being considered a valid opponent for Mayweather speaks volumes.
Nazim was threatening to stop the fight because Shane wasn't fighting back (not letting his hands go), not because he was getting beaten up to the point where the corner has to step in for the safety of their fighter.
That's usually how it ends up. Freddie and Manny have the toughest time putting together THE blueprint to beating Floyd. Shane capitalized on that split second window of opportunity in the second round and almost succeeded. That's what Manny will be hoping to exploit.
It'll be interesting to watch.
I don't know. I would love to see him in the ring at 40 with Bradley or Alexander. I think th at he's a clear underdog against Mayweather.
I think he is a underdog as well but not by much.Manny brings speed toughness and a great trainer.Floyd is also tough and fast.But the thing I notice about Floyd is he needs time to think if he is swarmed he does not fight as good.When he is swarmed he tends to find something to slow you down so he could pick his spots better.This fight will come down to what Manny is willing to risk in this fight.If he takes smart risk he is really in this fight.If he trys to think to much and box Floyd he is done AKA Mosley.
I'm not convinced that Pacquiao is as great as people like you think that he is. Besides, you missed my point which is that it's presumptuous to think that Pacquiao has all the tools necessary to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is undefeated with only one close fight in his career. Noone really knows what it takes to beat Mayweather.
Pac is a great fighter you have to give it too him.I won't lie I could see Devon and Bradley giving Pac a real hard time.But that does not change the fact that Pac is a great fighter.Im not saying this to compare May and Pac cause they are both great fighters IMHO.