Paul Williams gets away with Mediocrity on this forum.

I got it.... He never said he lost to Paul. He just said he didnt win the fight against him. Because the oopsite of win is draw. Odd... Considering Martinez couldve said "I thought the fight was a draw" but he decided to say that he didn't win the fight. The Judges agreed....so did Martinez. Paul wins. Where are you getting this "opposite of win" shit from? Damn you're clutching at straws and pulling shit out of thin air.

Anyone that thinks didn't win means the same thing as lost in boxing is retarded, yes. It was the type of fight where it was hard to pick a clear winner and the rightful decision should've been a draw. In that situation he probably felt he didn't do enough to win. Which obviously does not mean that he lost. But then again, you're the same guy who argued for a week that "Dirk Nowitski isn't white, he's German." http://www.smallislandmassive.com/bruk/images/news/dirk.jpg The hilarious thing is, he really doesn't get it, like the guys arguing that the decade isn't over, clinging to the hope that Floyd still has a chance, ROFL. No worse than you claiming Jack Johnson was not a great American like Joe Louis. Or criticizing Ali for not wanting to be called "Clay". Funny how you would compare the two. And the general consensus for a fighter claiming he feels he didn't win is that he lost. You can play the semantics game if you want,but a draw is not the first thing that would come to mind. unless Martinez specifically said that which he didn't. He doesn't need you to fill in the blanks. Of course you would have to be intelligent to understand that. Not a pseudo conservative, semi literate, tea party member like you.

Exactly. He never said he lost to Williams. Just report the actual quotes and there wont be an issue, Joseph Goebbels. I got it.... He never said he lost to Paul. He just said he didnt win the fight against him. Because the oopsite of win is draw. Odd... Considering Martinez couldve said "I thought the fight was a draw" but he decided to say that he didn't win the fight. The Judges agreed....so did Martinez. Paul wins.

So anyone who thinks the opposite of win is "lose"...is retarded? Anyone that thinks didn't win means the same thing as lost in boxing is retarded, yes. It was the type of fight where it was hard to pick a clear winner and the rightful decision should've been a draw. In that situation he probably felt he didn't do enough to win. Which obviously does not mean that he lost. But then again, you're the same guy who argued for a week that "Dirk Nowitski isn't white, he's German." http://www.smallislandmassive.com/bruk/images/news/dirk.jpg The hilarious thing is, he really doesn't get it, like the guys arguing that the decade isn't over, clinging to the hope that Floyd still has a chance, ROFL.

"I sincerely think I DID NOT win the fight" Self explanatory. Exactly. He never said he lost to Williams. Just report the actual quotes and there wont be an issue, Joseph Goebbels.

It means "didnt win". Not "lost" which is what you (mis)quoted. He also did not say "I did the opposite of win against Williams". Please quote accurately. Thanks. "I sincerely think I DID NOT win the fight" Self explanatory.

Well it might mean a draw to anyone who is not retarded. :drive: So anyone who thinks the opposite of win is "lose"...is retarded?

I didnt ask what it necessarily doesnt means. I asked what does "didn't win" mean? What is the opposite of win? It means "didnt win". Not "lost" which is what you (mis)quoted. He also did not say "I did the opposite of win against Williams". Please quote accurately. Thanks.

Again what does "didnt win" mean? Well it might mean a draw to anyone who is not retarded. :drive:

It doesnt neccesarily mean he lost. All I ask is you quote accurately and not give your slanted version of events. Cheers. I didnt ask what it necessarily doesnt means. I asked what does "didn't win" mean? What is the opposite of win?

Again what does "didnt win" mean? It doesnt neccesarily mean he lost. All I ask is you quote accurately and not give your slanted version of events. Cheers.

He never said he lost. You shamefully twisted his words and misquoted him. Again what does "didnt win" mean?

Fights Margarito, almost gets KOd in the last rounds but survives via excessive holding the result: he's a warrior and the GOAT Fights Quintana, gets absolutely embarassed, schooled, outclassed, you name it the result: he just so happened to have all orthodox sparring partners, he wasn't focused, etc Fights Quintana again, gets a lucky punch in the result: he's undefeated in everyone's eyes Fights Andy Kolle, dismembers him the result: he's definitely the GOAT Fights Martinez, gets his whooped from pillar to post but due to his stamina he makes the fight seem closer than it actually was in the later rounds the result: he was robbed, he won a clear decision Fights Cintron, nearly gets KO'd, gets rocked, gets owned. cintron jumps out of the ring, fight over the result: he was "on his way to destroying" cintron he's mediocre, he cant take punches like he used to. knowhaimsayin? Paul Williams won the Margarito fight decisively and was in no danger. Paul Williams lost a 7-5 decision to Quintana. Paul Williams destroys Quintana in a rematch. Paul Williams dominates Wright like no one before has done. Paul Williams fights Martinez in a FOTY candidate and Maravilla himself believes he didn't win. Paul Williams doesn't get to the late rounds vs. Cintron because Cintron felt the pressure.

Imagine....I mean really imagine....if P Will fought someone his height with a superb skill level. P Will would retire or take the longest layoff in history.

Again you are not think past your one sided opinion dummy. Had the judges scored the fight in favor of Martinez nobody aside from you're nutthugging as would of thought it was a bad decision or a robbery. Read! Comprehend whats being said to you!! The fight was a razor thin decision and like I said before he felt that he should of won the fight in a recent interview he had with the ring magazine recently so go fuking figure. 114-113 Martinez cool do you remember which rounds? okay so you score the it like that and you dont think that if martinez had been given the nod, no one would have thought it was a bad decision? well thats abit stupid since many posters feel pwill deserved the decision anyway and most boxing sites and lederman scored it for pwill.

"I sincerely believe I didn't I win the fight" What does "didnt win" mean? He never said he lost. You shamefully twisted his words and misquoted him.

Use some common sense, Williams was no way going to get KO'd by that bum Margarito. Williams best round was round 12, the championship round. A boxer who is on the verge of KO is able to up his work rate in round 12. Williams wasn't punished for excessive holding. Had he not held excessively in rd 11, who knows what would've happened? Certainly not you. It was a close fight. Harold Lederman had it for Williams. How is that schooling when people scored it for Williams Dan Rafael gave Pavlik 0 of the first 6 rounds against Taylor in the first fight. Does that mean it wasn't a close fight up until the stoppage? Avenged his only loss in a brutal first round KO. No such thing as a lucky punch Williams meant to land the punch and it did. How many 1st round KOs does Williams have against elite competition? I'll wait. It's not Williams fault Cintron jumped out of the ring. Williams won this fight Cintron won 2 of the first 3 rounds. The 4th was not complete. Therefore Cintron should've won the fight unless they could prove that he intentionally ended the fight. And Williams is a very good fighter, but top 5 p4p is definitely overrated.

how did you score the fight then? 114-113 Martinez

Paul Williams is def overrated!

Fights Margarito, almost gets KOd in the last rounds but survives via excessive holding the result: he's a warrior and the GOAT Fights Quintana, gets absolutely embarassed, schooled, outclassed, you name it the result: he just so happened to have all orthodox sparring partners, he wasn't focused, etc Fights Quintana again, gets a lucky punch in the result: he's undefeated in everyone's eyes Fights Andy Kolle, dismembers him the result: he's definitely the GOAT Fights Martinez, gets his whooped from pillar to post but due to his stamina he makes the fight seem closer than it actually was in the later rounds the result: he was robbed, he won a clear decision Fights Cintron, nearly gets KO'd, gets rocked, gets owned. cintron jumps out of the ring, fight over the result: he was "on his way to destroying" cintron he's mediocre, he cant take punches like he used to. knowhaimsayin? Nothing lucky about it, Williams was landing bombs in the fight and eventually stopped Quintana. But I agree with you on everything else.