I do not know much about David Tua I have been a huge boxing fan for about 3 years and never seen one of his fights, but how good was he in his prime? I know Lennox Lewis decisioned him and what would happen a Prime Tua vs. a slightly over the hill Tyson after prison?
It will be interesting to see how history treats Tua in the future. Will people look back on him as people look back on Shavers and Foreman today? Or will he fade out to a kind of 21st century Galento figure, well respected by those hardcore fans who care to research into past eras but virtually unknown outside of that particular bracket?
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I'm not saying it is. That's why I asked the question and I've certainly not seen every single Shavers fight out there. Just the famous ones.
If you can fish something up I'd me most appreciative.
I'll try my best. :fing02:
I haven't seen ANY of Tua's fights except the short pieces you showed me. That's probably why I immediately slammed and ridiculed the assertion that he was one of the hardest hitters ever. Now that you've introduced me to Tua I'm more open to the case for his punching power.
I'm willing to consider his punching power as ATG. I'll just have to watch his fights to prove/disprive it to myself.
I do not know much about David Tua I have been a huge boxing fan for about 3 years and never seen one of his fights, but how good was he in his prime? I know Lennox Lewis decisioned him and what would happen a Prime Tua vs. a slightly over the hill Tyson after prison?
hi there left hook tua.
I don't think what you've described is impossible to find on shavers resume.
They're are plenty of KO's on his resume and I'll try my best to find one that fits the description you matched. I personally think the Howard Smith one does.
I'm not saying it is. That's why I asked the question and I've certainly not seen every single Shavers fight out there. Just the famous ones.
If you can fish something up I'd me most appreciative.
No. Lewis one punch KOed Rahman far more viciously than Shavers did to Ellis. Tyson had numerous legit one punch KOs to his credit. So did Tua. None of these guys is fit to spit-shine Shavers shoes power-wise according to some people. If Shavers stands at the top of the heap then he needs more than a measly one impressive KO to get my vote. I wanna see neck snapping, eyes rolling back, drool coming out of their mouth KOs of the type that the above mentioned three fighters all achieved.
That may be so, but logic dictates that if fighter A makes his opponents woozy with punches and fighter B knocks his opponent unconscious then fighter B is the harder puncher. I don't consider Tua to be one of the hardest punchers in Heavyweight history just to be cute and go against the grain, I do so because I genuinely believe, based on the video evidence, that he legitimately was one of the hardest punchers ever.
I don't think what you've described is impossible to find on shavers resume.
They're are plenty of KO's on his resume and I'll try my best to find one that fits the description you matched. I personally think the Howard Smith one does.
shavers didn't have the best chin.
he cut easily and didn't have good stamina as well.
tua is a bad matchup for shavers.
Yeah here's a prime, 28 year old Shavers:
Me thinks Tua beats both of these guys.
yeah but you can't help not to be shocked by the way he just slumped to the canvas...........
But I don't really understand. You've mentioned the Jimmy ellis knockout yourself. Shouldn't that be enough?
No. Lewis one punch KOed Rahman far more viciously than Shavers did to Ellis. Tyson had numerous legit one punch KOs to his credit. So did Tua. None of these guys is fit to spit-shine Shavers shoes power-wise according to some people. If Shavers stands at the top of the heap then he needs more than a measly one impressive KO to get my vote. I wanna see neck snapping, eyes rolling back, drool coming out of their mouth KOs of the type that the above mentioned three fighters all achieved.
But I'll tell you something: I'm just as equally impressed when I see someone stumbling around all over the ring lifeless, compared to a "ruiz style" knockout.
That may be so, but logic dictates that if fighter A makes his opponents woozy with punches and fighter B knocks his (comparable) opponent unconscious then fighter B is the harder puncher. I don't consider Tua to be one of the hardest punchers in Heavyweight history just to be cute and go against the grain, I do so because I genuinely believe, based on the video evidence, that he legitimately was one of the hardest punchers ever.
earnie shavers would have something to say about that.
shavers didn't have the best chin.
he cut easily and didn't have good stamina as well.
tua is a bad matchup for shavers.
Tyson had that effect on a number of fighters. So did Tua. Watch the Oleg Maskaev or David Izon fights.
Watch the way Izon's head lolls back like his neck is broken. Truly chilling.
i edited a bit of my previous post BTW.
Thanks for the video. It's sickening to watch.
yeah but you can't help not to be shocked by the way he just slumped to the canvas...........
Tyson had that effect on a number of fighters. So did Tua. Watch the Oleg Maskaev or David Izon fights.
Watch the way Izon's head lolls back like his neck is broken. Truly chilling.
I've seen the Howard Smith fight thanks. It resembles a lot of Shavers' stoppage wins: Shavers swarms all over his opponent from the first, bludgeons him with shots to the head and body, and knocks him down a few times until eventually the ref waves it off. That shows that he's a good finisher, but not a great one-punch knockout artist. If he was, his opponents wouldn't be getting up. Not that I'm not willing to be convinced. All I'm looking for that one bone-chilling knockout of a top (or at least mid-level) guy that would justify all the praise. So far I've not seen it.
yeah but you can't help not to be shocked by the way he just slumped to the canvas...........
But I don't really understand. You've mentioned the Jimmy ellis knockout yourself. Shouldn't that be enough?
But I'll tell you something: I'm just as equally impressed when I see someone stumbling around all over the ring lifeless, compared to a "ruiz style" knockout.
Here's an interesting thing I've noticed about Tua. Not one of his opponents to my knowledge has ever made it to the finish line once he's knocked them down. When Tua had you hurt you were as good as done.
I've seen the Howard Smith fight thanks. It resembles a lot of Shavers' stoppage wins: Shavers swarms all over his opponent from the first, bludgeons him with shots to the head and body, and knocks him down a few times until eventually the ref waves it off. That shows that he's a good finisher, but not a great one-punch knockout artist. If he was, his opponents wouldn't be getting up. Not that I'm not willing to be convinced. All I'm looking for that one bone-chilling knockout of a top (or at least mid-level) guy that would justify all the praise. So far I've not seen it.